tony gale's mic Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 There isn't a thread about him, but now he's a serious contender for the job I feel he deserves his own thread. What are everyone's thoughts on him?
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Anti-Dingle-Brigade Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 He's been one of my first choices with Laudrup and Bilic since his name was first announced. Anything could happen, but I think Henk could be the start of something big for Rovers.
leftfooter Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 There isn't a thread about him, but now he's a serious contender for the job I feel he deserves his own thread. What are everyone's thoughts on him?
LeChuck Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 There isn't a thread about him Oh yes there is - http://www.brfcs.co.uk/mb/index.php?showtopic=18825 Admittedly, it's not much of a thread...
Hughesy Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Can we have a poll on him please? Id be delighted with him - think he is the manager that can find talent due to his experience in europe and his contacts at top clubs - could possibly pick a few gems up from the likes of Barca B team or something! In terms of his opposition - i want him to be our boss over BFS, Ince, Martinez and McClown. If we got him then i think it is a big step which could pay dividends for us and he has the potential to take us to that next step.
LeChuck Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 I've put this in Nicko's thread but things tend to get lost in there, so I'll ask it here: Take away his stints as an assistant (after all, they're meaningless) and what is really separating him from a bucket load of other moderately successful European coaches? He could easily be another Alain Perrin/Christian Gross waiting to happen, he's barely achieved anything as a manager and he's in to his 50s now.
Hughesy Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Due to the clubs he has worked for - Barcelona, Chelsea, Ajax - he must have something special. He must also have a good continental knowledge of the game and must surely also have a good scouting network which could help with our strict budget. I also dont think he would take any sh!t from Bentley, which is what we need.
RevidgeBlue Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 I also dont think he would take any sh!t from Bentley, which is what we need. This is definitely not the time for a "hard man" routine, what if he also won't take any sh1t off Friedel, Warnock, Samba, and Roque and they all decide to leave? We'd be in serious trouble. If it was a similar situation to when Souness arrived ( Lots of overpaid underachievers who needed shipping out) he might be the ideal man.
daren Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Uh, so he should go soft on them and let them have the run of the place?
American Rover12 Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 He's my first choice for the job. Even if he doesn't stay long, his CV is outstanding and could hopefully help hand us over to another qualified coach if he does leave in 2 or 3 seasons; only after a trip to the CL or something along those lines. But given his hstory, I feel he can do some great things with the club, Laudrup being my umber two choice.
RevidgeBlue Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Uh, so he should go soft on them and let them have the run of the place? No, but there's a time and a place for his alleged style of man management and this imo is neither the time nor the place.
daren Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Remember that he's been the bad cop in a "good cop bad cop" management situation. It doesn't necessarily mean that he'll stab people in the eye if they start yawning at a team talk And he managed to get on in Barcelona, I don't recall any complaints about his style of player management from there, and he was there for a while. I think the players in Chelsea may have had more power than was good for them and didn't appreciate him stepping on their toes, even though it got results.
daren Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Good lord, courtesy and a politeness on an internet messageboard! What next I see the point, though, it is a risk - but I think I would prefer it to the BFS "safe hands" kind of route 1. My opinions may be off, though, I also really like the thought of Martinez!
neekoy Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 I would take him, I can't remember the player who left Barca and claimed Ten Cate was the real brains behid the Barca success. They have lost something with him gone
Ronin Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 My opinions may be off, though, I also really like the thought of Martinez! It was going so well too
b12_simon Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 I would take him, I can't remember the player who left Barca and claimed Ten Cate was the real brains behid the Barca success. They have lost something with him gone Time to edit your sig, mate?
vintageadidas Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 That is a great article. He seems just want we want. He is top of my list at present along with Billic.
joey_big_nose Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 He does seem to tick all the boxes. Of all the names that have been mentioned I think he will be the most attractive to current players and future signings. He likes decent football, has a great history, he can point to his CL win and role at Chelsea to wow the staff. Only two questions for me need to be answered before he is given the job. a) Is he hungry for it? If he is coming to earn the money but not all that enthusiastic about the challenge that is not acceptable, he has to be excited about the job. Does he have a solid plan about how to progress the club? Not neccessarily something set in stone, but ideas that show that he has seriously considered how to move a mid sized club like Rovers forward beyond just opening a check book. If these two criteria are met in the interview imo he is a shoo-in. Laudrup also appeals but he does not seem to have shown much interest. The last thing we want to do is try to convince someone to take a role. We need them to want it badly.
dj54nna Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Sorry to post this everywhere, but if I pick up the Telegraph tomorrow and it's telling me that Paul Ince is the fan's favourite for manager, I'll go mental. VOTE BIG HENK - NOT BFS http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport...rovers_boss.php
Blackburn Ender Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Knowing little about the guy before this week, I've now read what I can on Ten Cate's career to date. And I'm sorry, but this all reeks of a No. 2 wanting to be a No. 1. He's 54 and has not convincingly cut it in charge of a big club (not sure how well he was doing at Ajax?). I wondered at the time why would you leave being manager of Ajax to be an assistant at Chelsea? Because that's his level. Just like Shearer apparently doesn't have the cojones to test himself at Rovers, so Ten Cate has hidden behind a manager too often. It's a harsh, lonely job to have when results aren't going your way and a manager needs a thick skin and a hell of a lot of self-belief to survive the bear pit that's the Premiership these days.
Pinch Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Sorry to post this everywhere, but if I pick up the Telegraph tomorrow and it's telling me that Paul Ince is the fan's favourite for manager, I'll go mental. VOTE BIG HENK - NOT BFS http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport...rovers_boss.php Well done, it looks like HTC is pulling ahead...I've voted 2x.
RevidgeBlue Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Well done, it looks like HTC is pulling ahead...I've voted 2x. If it allows you to vote as many times as you want then surely the poll is worthless?
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