[Archived] Paul Ince ?

[USRoverME]

Im sure he will target Scholes as his 1st signing!!

As long as he doesn't pull a Keano. Hopefully he knows that the prem level playing days of Steve Bruce, Eric Cantona and and Robbie Fowler are behind them.

[Claytons Left Boot]

Can we have an, 'I would rather have Laudrup' section for the poll please.

[Mr. E]

Well it's not the worst possible choice, but definitely a big step backwards. I really see no way how we can keep our current position, let alone progress.

[Blue blood]

I'd vote for satisfied, better than some of the people mentioned, but not wild about it vote, if there was one.

The big question is will Ince's abilities in the lower league transfer into the premiership.

His record is good, there's no two ways about that. Macclesfield (i think it was) should have gone down, and granted he had the resources at MK Dons but he delivered what was asked and a bit more - the Johnstones Paint Trophey. This suggests that his managerial tactics and motivational skills are pretty good.

But will these skills translate to the premiership which is a rather different style of football. My gut feeling would be majoritivly yes, which makes him a good candidate, and all looking happy.

But there are quite a few other considerations which make me think the appointment is more of a gamble.

1) He's a big reputation down in the lower leagues - he was a good player - but he's not a superstar name. This being the case will he be able to keep onto our star players?

2) And in a similar vein can he manage premiership egos?

3) Scouting. We know he can manage a team with little money, but players will go at some point and replacements will be needed - injuries, retirements, offers too good to refuse etc. The big question is does he have the ability to find the hidden gems like Hughes did?

All three of these are serious doubts of which we have no way of knowing whether Ince would step up to the mark on these things. Perhaps an experienced assistant like Ten Cate might be the answer? But then we'd no way of knowing of Hughes scouting ability for example either before getting him. The only way to tell is see ince managing a premiership side. Am not entirely convinved that it should be rovers taking that gamble though.

[The Harwood Yankee]

voted Time will tell.

would have voted happy if i knew someone experienced will be joining him, as director of football or in the backroom staff

That's the desperate thing. We shouldnt be appointing a manager who needs someone else to 'hold his hand' while he learns the job. We're a top 8 Premiership club ffs!! Appointing Ince would be the managerial equivalent of Jon Stead or Shefi Kuqi. We need to be apponting someone who is the equivalent of Santa Cruz, and for me that man is Laudrup.

[ThatRabbitsDynamite]

I picked first choice. After i looked him up i voted for him in the polls.

I've only been following this sport for 5 years so, i had to look up Paul Ince. Looks like he has an accomplished playing record. It appears he's played with some of the best players having been with ManU and playing with Sparky from '89-'95. He's been on some other high profile teams like Inter and Liverpool. He was the first black "captain" for England. This may mean nothing to Paul Ince the manager but, playing around those type of environments with very good players and managers breeds a winning attitude. These environs also have the best football knowledge. Its were Mr. Hughes came from!?! If he has similar ambition to MH then he'll be a good pick. He must have some leadership skill if he was picked to be England's captain. If he is bright then it won't matter how much managing experience he has. MH is bright. You see it in his eyes and by the way he carries himself. He is confident and a leader. Is Paul Ince similar? I have to admit that i can't answer my question because i haven't seen him play, manage, or interview. I guess thats what we have Mr. Williams for.

This has all said with the knowledge that everyone on this site probably has been a Rovers fan far longer then i have so, i am coming at this with a different perspective and attitude.

[Paul Mellelieu]

Far off fields are green I think the saying is. I'm not overjoyed with Ince, but please it's not BFS or the Wally.

I am a bit confused about support for Laudrup. Is it because he's not Ince or the other two?

[OscarRaven]

Disappointed with the whole 'shortlist' to be honest.

Ince is better than BFS and WwB at least there is potential there. I would actually appoint a director of football someone experienced to take charge of scouting, youth development, player contracts and succession planning (something lacking in football).

Oh yeah and director of football offers some continuity when manager moves on or is moved on... not been pessimistic of course!

[ThatRabbitsDynamite]

Who are BFS and the Wally?

Laudrup does not impress me but, i have nothing more then stats to go on.

[ThatRabbitsDynamite]

I figured out Big Fat Sam not the Wally.

[Paul Mellelieu]

I figured out Big Fat Sam not the Wally.

Sorry about that; just laziness on my part.

[ThatRabbitsDynamite]

Is McClaren :the Wally?

[rover6]

How can "time will tell" be a valid option in a poll? Sorry, if I'm taking this too seriously but it renders the poll tautological numptiness of first classitude (and even the Grooby option can't save it). The option might as well be, "I delegate my choice to Mr Hindsight, in all his wisdom, but will pretend that I am making a prediction".

Of course, time will tell. When does time NOT tell? - apart from when a inter-dimensional vortex splits the resonance count of sub-atom 2a and collides in helix form with Abbey's capslock button to render time and the whole Universe still? And thus, as Paul Ince is mid-sentence in setting forth his ambitions for Blackburn Rovers at the inaugral press conference, he is frozen, eternally, never to prove his worth.

(BTW: I accidentally opted for "time will tell" and am now nervously awaiting an Apocalypse triggered by Abbey's capslock button.)

[chocky]

Is McClaren :the Wally?

Yes..I put a reply on here but someone's been deleting..Used a few naughty words to descibe him...

[ThatRabbitsDynamite]

chocky - Thanks for the reply.

rover6 - That is hilarious but, please if you're in the vicinity, disconnect Abbey's keyboard.

When you first login above the chat forum lists there is a "latest news" warning that "Laudrup is in the frame" by Kamy100. Maybe the Laudrup contingency has hope after all?

[Blofeld]

how can a club that just finished 7th in the prem turn to a man who has only managed in L2? Its a joke. This has got disaster written all over it

[allanncd]

What has Ince done to justify being first choice? Yes, MK Dons were L2 champions but they finished 4th the previous season so Ince scarcely achieved a miracle. At Macclesfiled he lifted the team to 2 places off the bottom. He has no experience of scouting and signing players nor presumably much knowledge of the international transfer market. Has he anyone in mind to replace (probably) Bentley and Santa Cruz ? Is lower league journeyman coach Ray Mathias the sole replacement for Hughes Taffy army of experienced back-up? This is an appointment that has great potential to go belly-up and that's a risk Rovers simply cannot afford.

[Hannah]

I have been wondering tonight...

If Paul Ince has spoke to us about the job and now doesn't get it will he then have to leave MK Don's as he is no longer showing a commitment to them? It's just that after Mark Hughes started showing an interest in other jobs everyone said he would then have to move on. Or is it different for him?

[tony gale's mic]

There's huge amounts being staked on him on betfair now. I'd say it's stone cold certain he'll be our new boss.

I think someone has got to demand answers on what was done about Laudrup though. Surely we didn't pick Ince in a straight choice between the two, that would be too much to stomach.

[LeftWinger]

There's huge amounts being staked on him on betfair now.

Yeah I noticed that - is the chart hourly? If thats the case 10k was bet on him in 1 hour. Less than 20k has been bet on Laudrup in total.

[Paul]

When was the last time a PL club appointed a Fourth Division manager? I've voted "time will tell" but how much time have we got? I presume Ince has interviewed very well and has some great ideas for Rovers - if not why is he coming? Sadly there is nothing in Ince's public past to suggest he has the ability, intellect or maturity to manage a PL club. His apparent disinterest in coaching badges speaks volumes. He was a good but very unpleasant player but hardly one the modern professional will look up to, he certainly doesn't compare with Mark Hughes in that respect.

If Ince is apointed I shall be waiting to be impressed, I can see Hull beating us at home in the first game. Blackburn Rovers should be better than this.

[ABBEY]

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Of course, time will tell. When does time NOT tell? - apart from when a inter-dimensional vortex splits the resonance count of sub-atom 2a and collides in helix form with Abbey's capslock button to render time and the whole Universe still? And thus, as Paul Ince is mid-sentence in setting forth his ambitions for Blackburn Rovers at the inaugral press conference, he is frozen, eternally, never to prove his worth.

(BTW: I accidentally opted for "time will tell" and am now nervously awaiting an Apocalypse triggered by Abbey's capslock button.)

THOught YOud diSSSApeared

i want to vote for sturrock

[ABBEY]

When was the last time a PL club appointed a Fourth Division manager? I've voted "time will tell" but how much time have we got? I presume Ince has interviewed very well and has some great ideas for Rovers - if not why is he coming? Sadly there is nothing in Ince's public past to suggest he has the ability, intellect or maturity to manage a PL club. His apparent disinterest in coaching badges speaks volumes. He was a good but very unpleasant player but hardly one the modern professional will look up to, he certainly doesn't compare with Mark Hughes in that respect.

If Ince is apointed I shall be waiting to be impressed, I can see Hull beating us at home in the first game. Blackburn Rovers should be better than this.

if this was porn it would be called "the board does facebook and python"

its been embarassing from start to finish ooops not yet.Fourth division is correct paul.Its going two poss ways,either ince (who i have never taken to from his west spam days and his utd days and every day) will be a bolt from god and we hit dizziness again or hull do us and we end with someone out of his depth at this moment i time.

KING KENNY

[S15]

if this was porn it would be called "the board does facebook and python"

Bace fook.

[Majiball]

Right, what ever happens, we are rovers and that is that! i personally do not support Ince, people are comparing him to Hughes when he was appointed, but there's a huge difference, we are no longer relegation candidates, we are a consistent top 10 side. Over the last few years our board has spoken about how they want the club to progress, Enthusiasm, passion and the ability to say the right words in a interview situation, are completely different to actually achieving what the board have stated!

Our summer has been completely blown away, all of us are down, we cannot see a silver lining. But yet there could still be one, Inces non attendance on a course he should already be doing to match his supposed ambitions, speaks volumes. Our board is at a cross roads, and are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't, the candidates being linked to the job are not the standard, that I expected, not even close. We must send out a message not just to ourselves the fans, but to the players and the rest of the football world.

Ince, sends the wrong message, we are cheap, we lack ambition, we are happy where we are. Bentley is gone, he's a good player but we cannot afford another McCarthy situation, sell him, get rid. Santa Cruz on the other hand is the one player we must keep, what do you reckon he's thinking, no sooner are the press saying that Ince is a our new man than the rumours surrounding him re-surface. Personally a laudrup or similar would raise his eye brows, but at the moment he's probably going Paul who???

Laudrup, was one of the top players of his generation, by a mile. He's done well so far, Getafe are comparable to Fulham, Reading in our league, where their only hope was to stay up nothing more. Look what he did and how he did it. Our club needs serious work, this supposed legacy that Hughes left us is False, how many of our first team squad have come through the ranks, how many of these actually have the ability to play week in week out at our current level? Laudrup has a record of buying young, giving youth its chance (if capable). there is not a single player in the world who has not heard of him, everyone one of our squad will respect him instantly, he could even teach Cruz a thing or two.

Whoever comes in, whether for one, two or three years or more who cares, we cannot afford to miss out on Europe next year, we need a boost, a quick rise in European profile, and domestically. Ince is too big a gamble, the others clubs at our level in the prem would never dream of appointing him, nothing to do with Colour, its do with ability, track record. Laudrup gives us this boost. This is the most important decision in our recent history. We are about to hand 30 million to a man who has never spent 1. Its like giving a kid £100 in a sweetie shop.

Laudrup is the stand candidate, and even then he's a gamble but at least he's operated at a similar level already. If he wants get out give it to him, when was the last time a G14 club sacked there man mid-season, even in Spain. Whatever happens this is the time to sort-out our future, Youth - Invest in the Academy, serious investment, new coaches, new ideas, new players. Having Laudrup at the helm, a name kids parents (decision makers) will instantly know off, aids us. Its a no brainer for me, do we want gold or bronze, I'd settle for one gold over three years of bronze any day!

All I can say is JW must have serious doubts too, dispensation has been given, but no announcement made or scheduled, there may still be a silver lining!