[Archived] Nickos (newer) Thread

[nicko]

No offence intended of course Nicko, but now i've heard Laudrup's name mentioned it's hard to get out of my head. I'm hoping it's a case of "Dowie and Hughes" again and your sniffing up the wrong tree.

Then again if Ince does get it, then I don't mind one bit.

Anything is possible, but remember what is in motion just now...and ask:

WHY are the Premier League calling chairmen about Ince's qualifications on behalf of Blackburn Rovers? THERE IS A PROCESS GOING ON, A SLOW ONE, BUT HEADING IN ONE DIRECTION.

WHY does Paul Ince tell pals he will know in the next 48 hours? HE HAS BEEN TOLD THIS BY....[FILL IN THE DOTS].

WHY - for that matter - are MK Dons actively looking for replacements? OK, THAT ONE IS A BIT SNEAKY.

Look at it another way, Rovers decide they want Ince and - for the sake of a delay - just go out and name him.

The Premier League high-ups get upset about being cut out of it, there is an outcry about his lack of badges and 'runners' McClaren and Allardyce can have a good old moan.

Leave it a couple of days and:

1 - The Premier League is on your side and happy to have been of help.

2 - No-one complains because we are all bored with it now.

3 - McClaren and Allardyce withdraw...who cares what Laudrup thinks?

I think Rovers are playing this the only way they can and probably getting it right for the guy they have clearly decided to go for since Wednesday.

[novella]

always take wiki with a pinch of salt

[nicko]

If they ask the Premier League then expect them to be told no because it's against their rules, however similar to when Roeder got the Newcastle job it will be a case of having to ask the PL chairman to cast a vote at their next meeting so that Ince can get dispensation, there shouldn't be a problem with the chairman as there wasn't for either Roeder or Southgate but when the next chairman's meeting takes place I don't know.

The Premier League won't block this...but Rovers need to know how many potential protestors there might be AFTERWARDS.

[Garethtj]

I've lurked for a long time, but one frankly outrageous comment has prompted me to post!

off to hopefully see yorks beat lancs in the 20/20 at old trafford. should be fun.

See you there gumboots, but I can't share your feelings about the result.

[Cocker]

The Premier League won't block this...but Rovers need to know how many potential protestors there might be AFTERWARDS.

I take it you mean about the europe blocking thing - should we get there of course.

[ace]

Anything is possible, but remember what is in motion just now...and ask:

WHY are the Premier League calling chairmen about Ince's qualifications on behalf of Blackburn Rovers? THERE IS A PROCESS GOING ON, A SLOW ONE, BUT HEADING IN ONE DIRECTION.

WHY does Paul Ince tell pals he will know in the next 48 hours? HE HAS BEEN TOLD THIS BY....[FILL IN THE DOTS].

WHY - for that matter - are MK Dons actively looking for replacements? OK, THAT ONE IS A BIT SNEAKY.

Look at it another way, Rovers decide they want Ince and - for the sake of a delay - just go out and name him.

The Premier League high-ups get upset about being cut out of it, there is an outcry about his lack of badges and 'runners' McClaren and Allardyce can have a good old moan.

Leave it a couple of days and:

1 - The Premier League is on your side and happy to have been of help.

2 - No-one complains because we are all bored with it now.

3 - McClaren and Allardyce withdraw...who cares what Laudrup thinks?

I think Rovers are playing this the only way they can and probably getting it right for the guy they have clearly decided to go for since Wednesday.

Oh (please dont use that word again - no matter how you hash it to skip the filter) and i was hoping it was going to be agood weekend!

[nicko]

I take it you mean about the europe blocking thing - should we get there of course.

There is the possibilty of a protest from a Premier League club AFTER he is named. I hear there is one potential moaner - I won't name them. That has to be checked.

There is Europe as well...but that should look after itself in 12 months [hopefully].

[DannyKeg]

Mr. Nixon, if you continue to cut through the dross and explain the situation with bevity and clarity I will have to revise my opinion of people in your profession.

[misterbigalow]

There is the possibilty of a protest from a Premier League club AFTER he is named. I hear there is one potential moaner - I won't name them. That has to be checked.

There is Europe as well...but that should look after itself in 12 months [hopefully].

Aston Villa, I bet ya. I can't stand them at the moment, it has to be them

[Head Rover Heels]

There is the possibilty of a protest from a Premier League club AFTER he is named. I hear there is one potential moaner - I won't name them. That has to be checked.

Birmingham don't count do they - wouldn't it be between the "current" clubs. City?

[vyeo]

Nicko, do us all a favour... write about how mixed the feelings are with regards to appointing Ince, and juxtapose that with how overwhelmingly popular Laudrup is as a candidate? I know John Williams has not ever let the club down, but it is incredibly baffling how we could choose Ince over Laudrup. Quite honestly, appointing Ince over Laudrup would be a massive let-down for many, many Rovers fans. While most Rovers fan could have made ourselves accept Ince if it was between him, BFS and WwB, there is just no way we could deceive ourselves that Ince was the better choice over Laudrup. It's so clear its a no brainer. *Frustrated!*

[bob fleming]

If beckham can take electricution lessons, Iam sure Ince can.

Is he? Good lad. He'll need a trade to fall back on when he eventually packs in. Especially with is Mrs. Spends it like it's going out of fashion that one.

[Fife Rover]

OK, so what's up with the sudden invasion of guest readers on this thread? 78 guests reading it at the moment - methinks this thread has been linked to on various forums the past couple of days.

They are probably all journo's getting their free and easy top-up of information.

Leting Nicko do all their work for them.

[Baggio]

There is the possibilty of a protest from a Premier League club AFTER he is named. I hear there is one potential moaner - I won't name them. That has to be checked.

There is Europe as well...but that should look after itself in 12 months [hopefully].

As long as 75% of the Premiership's chairman agree it doesn't matter.

Like I've said, the Premier league blocked Roeder to Newcastle because he didn't have the badges but Freddie Shepherd pushed the situation and was told he could get dispensation if he could get a vote of 75% or more from the other clubs chairman, Southgate was slightly different as Boro just gave him the job but they were told they had 12 weeks to explain why dispensation should be allowed, his appointment again was down to a vote by Premier league chairman.

[bringdunnback]

I have a feeling that the chairman is Phil Gartside, never liked him and may be looking to do Fat Sam a favour.

[BlueMonday]

They are probably all journo's getting their free and easy top-up of information.

Erm.... apparently Ronaldo wants to join Rovers

[misterbigalow]

Erm.... apparently Ronaldo wants to join Rovers

Yeah, and Alex Ferguson is so angry he's left Man Utd and is following Ronaldo here to manage us!

[Solberto]

Nicko, what manager would you prefer. Laudrup or Ince?

[leftfooter]

You really are a grade A cretin sometimes.

Is Uriah the only useless referee?

Thenodrog makes a valid point.

If you think Rennie's race wasn't a factor in his promotion then you are naive.

I remember reading match reports in the Guardian, when Rennie first came on the scene, were the match reporter went out of his/her way to particularly praise him. The game itself between the two teams was treated as a bit of a side issue to the wonderful event of a black official gamboling around the centre circle.

Rennie was catapulted in to the Premier League way beyond his experience and ability warranted at the time (he did improve belatedly).

A few months back, there was a huge advertisement in the Sunday Times from whatever quango is running the London Olympics, under the vapid headline ‘Together’. The photograph at the top of the ad showed British schoolchildren running across a playground, with great determination. Of course non of the children at all were ‘white’ as of course that might smack of elitism.

The message was loud and clear. Promotion of ethnic minorities and 'equality' is far more important to some organisations than simply appointing the best candidate.

For what it's worth, I can hardly think of two more ideal candidates than the final 2 we are left with.

John Williams is either the shrewdest man on the block or just lucky. Ince and Winkleman now know that if their individual demands are too astronomical, there is an equally ideal candidate waiting in the wings.

I was in the Ince camp, due to his determination and liklier long term durability in England, until reading his do boy's article in the Mirror, which brought back to me his snide comments about us over a decade ago.

I'll support either candidate wholeheartedly because they both are the best available.

If Ince is appointed however, just don't expect the race issue not to be a factor throughout his tenure at Ewood.

[vyeo]

As long as 75% of the Premiership's chairman agree it doesn't matter.

Like I've said, the Premier league blocked Roeder to Newcastle because he didn't have the badges but Freddie Shepherd pushed the situation and was told he could get dispensation if he could get a vote of 75% or more from the other clubs chairman, Southgate was slightly different as Boro just gave him the job but they were told they had 12 weeks to explain why dispensation should be allowed, his appointment again was down to a vote by Premier league chairman.

The only problem this time is that they may think strategically - Rovers managed by a Div 4 manager who's not even qualifed or Rovers managed by an absolute world legend who has managed clubs in Europe and turned an unfashionable club into a pretty successful team? Then they think, this is the same Rovers who are extremely hard to beat, a team who can rough it out and still play it on the ground. And they all then vote for Ince... I'm clearly hoping we get veto-ed out on this one.

That said, my feel is that it is unlikely, simply because after the precedents of Roeder and Southgate, the media, Ince himself and even human rights campaigners would kick up a fuss and solely cast it as a racist issue if dispensation is not granted. Besides, with a team of Mathias (who!?) and Ince, who said the European issue will become a problem? Because we would be extremely unlikely to get there anyway...

[LeChuck]

I have a feeling that the chairman is Phil Gartside, never liked him and may be looking to do Fat Sam a favour.

Hmm...you're suggesting that Gartside will vote against Ince to try and get Allardyce a job at Rovers? There are so, so many things wrong with that idea, I don't know where to begin.

[A cup of beans]

Oh dear...this might go on for 48 hours.

Ince has told a couple of pals of mine that he won't have a decision until then.

This is frustrating beyond belief.

He is expecting the job, but I can only assume the hold-up is this Premier League thing.

Working on it...

apologies if this sounds like another conspiracy theory, but i really hope laudrup gets it.

could it be that the 48hrs delay ties in with rovers announcing Laudrup as manager on monday, cos the quater finals finish on sunday evening and then Laudrup has a couple of days-off from his tv commitments ?

i'm clutching very thin at straws, i know.

[nicko]

I think Paul Ince will be bringing Ray Mathias with him.

Just remembered Ince got Mathias to call Roque's agent to ask if he was staying a few days ago...forgot to mention that...blame old age.

[A cup of beans]

Oh dear...this might go on for 48 hours.

Ince has told a couple of pals of mine that he won't have a decision until then.

This is frustrating beyond belief.

He is expecting the job, but I can only assume the hold-up is this Premier League thing.

Working on it...

apologies if this sounds like another conspiracy theory, but i really hope laudrup gets it.

could it be that the 48hrs delay ties in with rovers announcing Laudrup as manager on monday, cos the quater finals finish on sunday evening and then Laudrup has a couple of days-off from his tv commitments ?

i'm clutching very thin at straws, i know.

[A cup of beans]

Oh dear...this might go on for 48 hours.

Ince has told a couple of pals of mine that he won't have a decision until then.

This is frustrating beyond belief.

He is expecting the job, but I can only assume the hold-up is this Premier League thing.

Working on it...

apologies if this sounds like another conspiracy theory, but i really hope laudrup gets it.

could it be that the 48hrs delay ties in with rovers announcing Laudrup as manager on monday, cos the quater finals finish on sunday evening and then Laudrup has a couple of days-off from his tv commitments ?

i'm clutching very thin at straws, i know.