[Archived] Nickos (newer) Thread

[tony gale's mic]

Let a rival of ours buy Bentley. 17 million? He's good, but not THAT good. If Bentley played for Boro or West Ham and Villa went and splashed 17 million on him we wouldn't be too worried.

Remember though...it's £7 million as far as we're concerned.

[modes98]

I wouldn't be happy if he went to the likes of Villa or Spurs. For me it would have to be top four, aboroad or he stays and honours the contract he signed.

I get the sense that he had the idea to become a small fish in a big pond. Instead of the same size of fish he currently is.

Villa or Spurs aren't a step up, you could argue Spurs is a step down. I have my doubts as to whether he would go to Villa, just because he may not fit into their whole system. He would be better off staying with us, where he knows he can bang the ball onto rocky's head and get 10 assists in a season, line up the free kicks, etc. Rather than being pushed out at both Spurs and Villa.

[Eddie]

Remember though...it's £7 million as far as we're concerned.

Yep, but that will be true regardless of who buys him. It will still be 17 million out of the other clubs account though (17 million would be 10 for us though, but a profit of 7). We can buy a player as good as Bentley for 10 million.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Remember though...it's £7 million as far as we're concerned.

Eddie probably thinks we can get a replacement for Bentley with that, Aarron "I can't cross a ball" Lennon probably.

[T4E]

Why do we have to replace Bentley like for like? Lets go another route, someone with a bit of pace, someone with some skill, more direct, exciting. Someone like Aaron Lennon.

[RibbleValleyRover]

We can buy a player as good as Bentley for 10 million.

You sure about that? Someone with a great cross, proven premier league pedigree, creativity in abundance.

Someone who can get the best out of Roque

I think you would be hard pressed to find someone for that sort of price.

[Eddie]

Well we bought him for a lot less. People keep saying "no we can't replace him on our kind of money"...take a look at our team. Santa Cruz, McCarthy, Bentley, Pedersen (when he was really good), Tugay, Emerton, Nelsen, Samba, Warnock, Reid (when he was good), Friedel. Which one of those did we sign for 10+ million again?

We aren't the only club to have done that either. There are players at clubs all around the premiership whom I would love to see at Rovers who were bought for less than 10 million, many for less than 5. Good scouting and a bit of effort and we'll be fine.

I'll say it again, how many games did Bentley win for us last season? I can only remember Newcastle as being a 3 points from Bentley. Sure he sets up a lot of goals and he's a good player, but we play through him a lot of the time as well, so he has the chance to create more than anyone else in the side. He can be replaced and for less money as well. Maybe the player we replace him with won't have quite the skill that he has, but that doesn't mean we can't get someone who can set-up around as many goals, score as many (if not more) and also learn to put in a decent corner (a far easier skill and one that could lead to at least 5 more goals a season for us).

[Cocker]

I really cant believe how little some people think of Bentley. Our strikers benefit greatly from his passing. Many of the games where nothing is happening he pulls something out of the bag. He is always right up there in the stats too. The only bad thing about him is his mouth - I have no problems with a player believing in themselves but sometimes I just wish he would shut up.

When Bentley does go (which I think most of us have accepted) it will be bad news for Rovers and those who think he can be replaced for 10m are very foolish. I hope he goes to one of the top 4 and not to someone like Villa because I think he would only help them push on ahead of us.

[philipl]

This idea that Bentley is replaceable with what is left out of player and agent's bites out of a £10m residual from his sale is risible.

I wish I were wrong but selling Bentley will drop our final league position by five places and lose us the £3m the Walker Trust have just agreed to put back in.

[Plastic Head]

Just a thought on the lack of transfer activity...

If a player is going to be earning £100k per week, why would a club buy anyone in May, June or even early July.

Surely better to wait until the end of July and save yourselves half a million quid.

The smart selling clubs would add these payments onto the transfer fee.

[AJW]

Plus I cant remember a ginner at the club since Bernie Gallagher (the full back, not the golfer) came on loan from Villa in the late 80's.

ROBBIE SLATER

[Eddie]

I'm pretty sure we are headed for another Hugheseque "the king is dead. long live the king" with Bentley.

We've seen better players at Rovers and we'll see better players at Rovers. He's not as good as Friedel, Santa Cruz or Benni for me and I think if Pedersen can regain form then he is just as good of a player.

[nicko]

Just a thought on the lack of transfer activity...

If a player is going to be earning £100k per week, why would a club buy anyone in May, June or even early July.

Surely better to wait until the end of July and save yourselves half a million quid.

The smart selling clubs would add these payments onto the transfer fee.

Thank you, Mister Chairman.

[Cocker]

I'm pretty sure we are headed for another Hugheseque "the king is dead. long live the king" with Bentley.

We've seen better players at Rovers and we'll see better players at Rovers. He's not as good as Friedel, Santa Cruz or Benni for me and I think if Pedersen can regain form then he is just as good of a player.

Bentley supplies Santa and Benni with the Ammo. A Striker is only as good as the service that he receives - FACT

[Sparky Marky]

Windy Miller....He even had a ginger tasche...!!

[Eddie]

Bentley supplies Santa and Benni with the Ammo. A Striker is only as good as the service that he receives - FACT

Agreed, but I think that we can replace the service Bentley provides.

[socngill]

You sure about that? Someone with a great cross, proven premier league pedigree, creativity in abundance.

Someone who can get the best out of Roque

I think you would be hard pressed to find someone for that sort of price.

Runs down blind allays, cuts inside and losses the ball, doesn't pass to his team mates, thinks he's better than the rest of the team, can't take corners...

I think we could replace all that for less than £10m.

On his day he is quality - no doubt. but for the second half of last season he began to believe his own hype and tried playing the games by himself. The number of times I was screaming at him to pass the ball was unbelievable.

If only Hughes hadn't pushed him so much for an England call up we would be in a much stronger position. he'd still feel part of a team and not above it, he would have performed as such and we would probably have got into Europe and wouldn't be sitting here worrying about losing our best players.

[hawkiiz]

its no problem finding a equally good player for well under 10 million if we care to try. when bellamy left we got benni in for a small amount and then the year after we got rocky for well under 5 million.

if we look outside the premiership we can get a fantastic player and pay well under 10 million. and if not, i think a decent winger plus a quality right back and a good central midfielder will see us a much imporved squad even without bentley.

[gazsimm]

I'm pretty sure we are headed for another Hugheseque "the king is dead. long live the king" with Bentley.

We've seen better players at Rovers and we'll see better players at Rovers. He's not as good as Friedel, Santa Cruz or Benni for me and I think if Pedersen can regain form then he is just as good of a player.

Bentley will be missed greatly at Rovers, he runs most games for us and with out him are forwards will not have the same service like they have been getting for the last two seasons. Pedersen is not fit enought to wipe his arse!!!

sadly though i can only see Bentley leaving us this summer because sadly we are not a bigger enough club for him.

[Ewood and I Would]

This idea that Bentley is replaceable with what is left out of player and agent's bites out of a £10m residual from his sale is risible.

I wish I were wrong but selling Bentley will drop our final league position by five places and lose us the £3m the Walker Trust have just agreed to put back in.

Come on are you serious. Look I'm no Bentley basher and like to think I'm a good judge of his worth to the team but that is way over the top.

Firstly you are making that statement not on losing Bentley, but making the assumption that his replacement won't give anywhere near as much too. I know we no longer have Hughes but last season Santa Cruz was worth 3.5m now he is worth 15m. You can find good players for small money you know just ask Wigan (Valencia who many rate as better than Bentley). It is very pessimistic to assume we couldn't find another guy like that.

Bellamy is another example and I would argue that had we signed McCarthy his loss would have damaged us more than Bentley's ever could...but the point is we replaced Bellamy with McCarthy for 2.5m.

[AJW]

Remember though...it's £7 million as far as we're concerned.

That just may be enough to get chimbonda and larsson ?

[hawkiiz]

i begin to like ince.

from LET, on how bentley is linkey with every club on the planet.

“To be honest, I’m already fed up talking about it because David is only one player in our squad.”

[modes98]

That just may be enough to get chimbonda and larsson ?

Chimbonda wouldn't come but I wouldn't have him near the club anyway. He thinks he is pele or something.

Larsson gets a big yes from me!

[Iceman]

i was just thinking,the Trustees having now made a U turn with the 3Million pound investment,is that a sign that they dont want to see the club,in trouble come the end of the season?With that in mind,if we in trouble and got relegated,the value that they want would completely become less.Therefore i think the turn around is purely to safe guard themselves,in any potential takeover that might occur,without the value of the club decreasing.

[Eddie]

Really like Larsson as well. He's young, can cross, scores goals, can take set pieces. Ticks just about every box. Still doesn't have a huge amount of pace, but he's probably faster than Bentley and we'll have to inject pace into other areas of the team.