[Archived] Nickos (newer) Thread

[alexanders]

IMO, yes it does. Whether Fowler can make a difference, well I don't know. With Fowler, if he's fit enough, he's good enough. That's why he's going to Germany isn't it, - to assess his fitness?

Seconded.

I'll take a fit Fowler over Roberts any day. ESPECIALLY if we can get some money from the sale and get Fowler in for free on a pay-as-you-play.

That would even increase Derbyshire's time on the pitch.

[EwoodGlory]

Liverpool have accepted an offer for midfielder Danny Guthrie from Newcastle, while the Reds have two offers on the table from top-flight clubs for keeper Scott Carson. (Liverpool Echo, 1215 BST)

If true, are we one of the ones in for Carson?

I did not like the look of him towards the end of last season.

[I_saw_Batty_score]

Maybe Fowler can go in goal. Think of him more as a swap for Enkleman.

[RibbleValleyRover]

People must really have it in for Ince to try and pretend there is some sort of correlation between RSC and Fowler. IF Fowler came in on any sort of deal, it would be most likely to replace Rigters or Gallagher.

I can't even see it would be to replace Roberts at no. 4 tbh.

If Im wrong, then i'll be down at Ewood with the baying hordes brandishing pitchforks myself.

I'd rather have Rigters and Gally over Fowler. And with a new manager coming i would have thought the likes of Rigters and Gally might finally get a chance.

I just feel our strikeforce doesn't need any new additions unless one of the exisiting ones leaves. Roque is the only striker that there appears to be a major interest in.

[CircoWill]

Massive over reactions from everyone on Fowler. I know signing him wouldn't exactly be exactly inspiring at the moment. However, we cannot lose in this scenario.

Fowler is going to have to prove his fitness and hunger in order to get a contract. If he does that (I know it's a big IF) then we'll have a quality player and finisher added to the squad.

If he doesn't prove any of that, he doesn't get a contract. We can't really lose.

The Friedel thing is more worrying but he hasn't gone anywhere yet. Maybe Ince feels that there are some top quality young keepers available this summer (Robinson, Carson etc...) and he's better doing business now than wait a year or two to replace Brad. If that is his logic, that is his right as manager of our football club.

I'd be very sorry to see Brad go but he is going to go one day and if Ince believes signing a good young keeper (someone who will be at the club for the next four or five years) now is the way to go, then so be it.

I'd love Brad to stay but it won't be the end of the world, or Blackburn Rovers, if he doesn't. New managers always change things to how they see their team. Ince is no different, nor should he be.

[modes98]

some of the posts recently on here have been farcical! Does anyone think for one minute that Fowler is being brought in to replace Santa Cruz?

If he's not being brought in to do a job then why bother at al? Surely we are trying to make our team better, not pay more players to sit out games.

We have 4 premiership quality strikers on the payroll. We go not have 4 premiership quality Central Midfielders or a Right Back. Get your priorities straight Ince. Keep the players who keep you in the race for europe, don't push them towards the door, or you'll be following!

If true, are we one of the ones in for Carson?

I did not like the look of him towards the end of last season.

He is a decent young keeper who has had his confidence ripped apart, much like Robinson. If you have a good enough coach and manager they can get hem back performing at they are young. However i believe a fee of £10m was mentioned for Carson and you can forget anyone at that price on current form.

[Ricky]

Not been impressed with Carson when I've seen him for Liverpool. I'd rather Foster or Robinson to be honest.

BUT none of them are as good as Brad. If we had to take one of them I'd say Robinson has got the ability and could come back to be a very good keeper, just a little out of sorts at the moment.

[Eddie]

In time Foster will be as good as Brad. Carson could be.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

After the initial shock of finding out Fowler was the name, I've now calmed down a bit and realised that we are not in a worse off situation. We've got a goalscoring legend joining our team for training, not joining our club on a contract but JUST for training.

Two things can happen now:

1- He is injury free and proves that he's worth a gamble on a free. He'd probably get a pay as you play deal. If he's successful, we benefit. If not, he won't play, we don't lose out. Whilst in training, our youngsters learn from a natural finisher.

2 - He doesn't prove his fitness. He won't sign.

The only reason why people are going over the top about this is because they were too busy hyping up Nicko's article in their heads and they were expecting an exotic name who will rival the best of most clubs and because they are worried about the departure of Friedel.

[2PAC 4 Blackburn]

Maybe Fowler can go in goal. Think of him more as a swap for Enkleman.

Probably the closet he will get to the net!

Why don't we try and get John Barnes and Ian Rush?

[RibbleValleyRover]

I'll take a fit Fowler over Roberts any day. ESPECIALLY if we can get some money from the sale and get Fowler in for free on a pay-as-you-play.

I have to disagree.

Roberts offers power and pace. Fowler's legs are shot and his main quality is that he is a natural finisher, something we already have with Derbs.

[The Prof.]

Seconded.

I'll take a fit Fowler over Roberts any day. ESPECIALLY if we can get some money from the sale and get Fowler in for free on a pay-as-you-play.

That would even increase Derbyshire's time on the pitch.

I wouldn't - One big strong quick powerful athlete v a small prematurely aged washed up fat lazy scouser - you're watching too many grainy video's. He hasn't been worth a place since he was 27/8 He would'nt replace Gally in my book.

[BRFC95]

I'd rather have Rigters and Gally over Fowler.

You're havin' a laugh. Fowler scores goals, they don't.

You're telling me you'd rather have them coming on with 10min left in a game rather than Fowler.

[RevidgeBlue]

For all we know, all Ince might have considered so far is replacing Enckleman with another experienced keeper, and Rigters or Gallagher with Fowler.

Yet half the support seem to want to string him up outside the Town Hall.

[RibbleValleyRover]

You're havin' a laugh. Fowler scores goals, they don't.

You're telling me you'd rather have them coming on with 10min left in a game rather than Fowler.

They havent had the chances, in particular Rigters.

[alexanders]

Liverpool are replacing Carson with a 25-year old no one's never heard about?

Keeper seal deal with Reds

[thenodrog]

I think a 'calm down, calm down' call might be in order here.

The Fowler affair is strange, but if he is fit then he is worth having around.

The Friedel affair is strange, but you have to let a manager make the call.

There are several players being pursued all over the place right now - and some of them are quite exciting.

Obviously there could be a controversial capture or two, but so it goes.

There will also be a new chief scout - or 'general manager' type - joining and a reserve team coach.

There is a LOT going on, not just one eye-catching move for a hero of yesteryear and the possible departure of a genuine legend.

Nice calming words Alan................. I'm sure toeing the party line could be very useful in the future for you soooo.... could it just be that you have been contacted this morning and asked to help put out the fire thats a' raging.

[The Prof.]

You're havin' a laugh. Fowler scores goals, they don't.

You're telling me you'd rather have them coming on with 10min left in a game rather than Fowler.

Correct

[Bazrakats]

Roberts has wanted to leave for a while. So let him Fowler would probably just be back up whats the big deal. People need to calm down.

[BRFC95]

They havent had the chances, in particular Rigters.

We've all seen enough of him to know he's useless.

[robborover]

Two things can happen now:

1- He is injury free and proves that he's worth a gamble on a free. He'd probably get a pay as you play deal. If he's successful, we benefit. If not, he won't play, we don't lose out. Whilst in training, our youngsters learn from a natural finisher.

True. But I would (and I think many others too) prefer to see Derbyshire get more games upfront. He may not work out but at least a youngster could take us forward, even if there is a risk.

[leftfooter]

(Spitting feathers and couldn't find my password.)

Now I'm speechless. £2.5 million quid for Friedel - Bonkers. 15 points is worth 30 million quid these days! Find a more consistent injury free player anywhere - 1 more year and nowt would be preferable. A fine upstanding citizen.

Fowler - oooohhhhhh if only you new half the story! He hasn't been injured half as much as you think he has - but won't play much trust me.

A COACH! Oh god no!

Amy Winehouse would be a better role model as player and coach!

I strongly suspect Friedels mate in the takeover has/had objected to the Guv'nor. (Would the first asian heritige Premiership chaiman eclipse the first black manager somewhat?)

An appalling start but considering the unusually quick response from Official Rovers Site I think he's asked to come for training and/or Incey just had his first ethics lecture.

Come on Prof; tell us a bit more!

[Bennisfromheaven]

The whole brad thing reminds me of when hughes came in & got rid of parkes, stamping his authority & ensuring everyone knew he was boss!

However, ince is not as popular a choice as hughes was at the time of his appointment so he is making a big gamble here!!

[alexanders]

This is Fowler's stats from 2006/2007 season, and I shall remind everyone that it was under Benitez's rotation system. Which a lot of players struggle to stay fit and top notch under.

Apps: 20, Goals: 7

That's not the worst is it ?

[Presty On Tour]

I'm interested to know what the 92 guests make of all this