[Archived] Nickos (newer) Thread

[Mr Creosote]

Nice calming words Alan................. I'm sure toeing the party line could be very useful in the future for you soooo.... could it just be that you have been contacted this morning and asked to help put out the fire thats a' raging.

Ermm.......ok.

[blue/white]

Just had a text from my Dad:

"Is he a # idiot, Fowler never saved a goal in his life not happy"

You're a lucky man, Bryan... my pa can barely use the house landline,

[Blue n White Rover]

I just want to know why most the fans on here are so disappointed about Fowler joining us?

1 extra striker with experience whats the harm in that?

[broadsword]

Blimey, he wouldn't last long in NY then?

Why are people reacting like lemmings off a cliff to the Fowler thing? It's nto a big deal, we will be looking at more expensive targets.

[EwoodGlory]

1 extra striker with experience whats the harm in that?

Exactly, it could be a smart move.

People are going way over the top here, can anyone explain why it is so bad?

The possibility of Brad leaving on the other half

[gumboots]

I just want to know why most the fans on here are so disappointed about Fowler joining us?

1 extra striker with experience whats the harm in that?

As has been said countless times if we'd got the rest of the transfers tied up and then brought him in people would have said "What" but not been so wound up. It's just that as a first move it's not what we're looking for. He's not good enough. He hasn't signed yet and perhaps will, perhaps won't but it's just not what people were expecting/hoping for as a signing.

[nicko]

Nice calming words Alan................. I'm sure toeing the party line could be very useful in the future for you soooo.... could it just be that you have been contacted this morning and asked to help put out the fire thats a' raging.

No, just reiterating how things stand.

If you can't cope with information - good or bad - best look away.

[daveoftherovers]

I just want to know why most the fans on here are so disappointed about Fowler joining us?

1 extra striker with experience whats the harm in that?

Maybe becuase he's past it, or because of he's as fast as a speeding sloath or maybe because he hardly set fire to the Chumpionship did he, I mean, there are are SO many things to be positive about this isn't there???!!!

OMG, this is a nightmare!

[socngill]

Maybe becuase he's past it, or because of he's as fast as a speeding sloath or maybe because he hardly set fire to the Chumpionship did he, I mean, there are are SO many things to be positive about this isn't there???!!!

OMG, this is a nightmare!

He was injured for most of last season. I think he played 16 and scored 6. Pretty good really. There is a world of difference between Championship and Premier League. Yes opposition defenders etc are better, but you tend to get more time on the ball etc in the Prem.

[Jan]

He was injured for most of last season. I think he played 16 and scored 6. Pretty good really. There is a world of difference between Championship and Premier League. Yes opposition defenders etc are better, but you tend to get more time on the ball etc in the Prem.

Which as he was - when he was any good- a reaction striker, won't really help. I'd be cross if Fowler was brought in to replace Righters or Gallagher. Any of the others and Ince better not cross any roads on foot.

[nicko]

The only opinion that matters on Robbie Fowler is Paul Ince's.

Ince has had the bottle to try this on - it could be great or a flop - but give it a chance. I hear Fowler is not terribly fit, so we will see how it runs.

Fowler also has the bottle to take a chance on a move and ISN'T moving for money. It's not like he needs it.

Take a breath and see how it works out.

A year ago Roque Santa Cruz was a crock who never played and couldn't score in some eyes...

Leave it to the experts.

[LeChuck]

Exactly, it could be a smart move.

People are going way over the top here, can anyone explain why it is so bad?

No it couldn't! He's been rubbish since he was at Leeds.

He doesn't work very hard, he's slow, he's @#/? in the air, his little/no motivation left in him and he struggles awfully with fitness.

I'm terrified of Ince's appointment now...absolutely terrified.

[gumboots]

The only opinion that matters on Robbie Fowler is Paul Ince's.

Ince has had the bottle to try this on - it could be great or a flop - but give it a chance. I hear Fowler is not terribly fit, so we will see how it runs.

Fowler also has the bottle to take a chance on a move and ISN'T moving for money. It's not like he needs it.

Take a breath and see how it works out.

A year ago Roque Santa Cruz was a crock who never played and couldn't score in some eyes...

Leave it to the experts.

Santa Cruz was also 6 or 7 years younger and came straight from a big club, not via a lower league. We have to leave it to the experts because we can't do anything about it, but we don't have to like it or refrain from having an opinion on it.

[Mr Creosote]

Take a deep breath and have some fortitude.

Perhaps it wasn't the best time for this to get out whilst we are all collectively reeling against the ropes from the Freidel business. I suppose the fact there are seven on the bench is an influence in him coming here for a bit. In his pomp Fowler was arguably the best natural finisher in the game but those days are long gone and the news of his arrival in underwhelming to say the least in these turbulant days.

Having calmed down a bit I can maybe see some merit in Ince's thinking and no longer want him placing in the stocks in front of Ossy library. I have rotting vegatables at the ready though if Freidel is forced out.

[67splitscreen]

Just picked this up from tribal football.

http://www.myfootballnews.co.uk/news_jump.html?story=843057

Blackburn Rovers boss Paul Ince admits he's still to discuss a transfer budget with the board.

"I've not really spoken to the chairman about the amount of money I'll have to spend as yet," he told the Lancashire Telegraph. "The most important thing initially was to get the staff I wanted to bring in sorted out, and we've almost completed that now.

"When the chairman comes back off holiday we'll then sit down again and have another look at that."

After the last 24 hrs, I don't think you will have long to wait,

[nicko]

Santa Cruz was also 6 or 7 years younger and came straight from a big club, not via a lower league. We have to leave it to the experts because we can't do anything about it, but we don't have to like it or refrain from having an opinion on it.

Santa Cruz was a gamble nonetheless.

His CV before he came was probably quite like Fowler's.

EVERY transfer is a risk.

This one is a low-risk. No fee, small-ish wages.

I don't think it will work out in the fullness of time, but I could be proved wrong and would be happy to accept that.

The manager obviously does and he has more of a feel for what he wants and needs...plus it's HIS neck on the line.

One thing is sure, Paul Ince is obviously a strong-minded guy.

[T4E]

Thats likely a smokescreen. What manager declares their budget, or even gives an indication on it?

The one thing he's done right so far.

[The Gull]

Bowen was very highly rated and in for managers jobs when Hughes got him for Wales and then logically he followed.

Wasn't Hitchcock working for someone of note and he also has a premiership pedigree behind him.

Glynn Hodge worked with Hughes at wales, so that was a logical step as well.

You missed out Tony Studwick, who was taken on by Man Utd, because he was so good and Eddie Niedzwiecki who was at Arsenal before he came to us.

So not a bad backroom team, rather than the MK Dons backroom.

Hughes saw quite a few of them play for himself before he signed them, but you could watch Benni or Rocky on TV as they were at big european clubs and Bentley played in the premiership. However the main guy who originally scouted them has left ot join him at Man City!

Well said sums it up perfectly!

Bowen was being linked with the Norwich job wasn't he? A former player of a team that was struggling at the time, and in his time at Birmingham had hardly worked with top players. Brian Kidd had a great reputation as a coach.

Glynn Hodges hardly a reputation from what I can remember, the same with Hitchcock and the sport scientist guy was up and coming, but nobody championed any of Hughes staff as great appointments. They went on to probably produce the fittest Rovers in my memory, but not the most organised or creative. We became hard to beat but also struggled to beat teams, especially when they dug in at Ewood.

Ince has brought in somebody who he has worked with before at MK Dons as his number two, Ince strikes as wanting a number who believes in his way of things and imparts that on the players which is what I believe is Matthias's role. We have brought Know in who is a highly experienced coach to supplement Ince's coaching methods which will hopefully be "modern" and "innovative". We have brought in Eric Steele who has a very good reputation as a keeper coach, and two sport scientist that apparently have good reputations to replace the one we have lost.

In addition we have added a specialist defensive coach, which in my mind is a very good thing given some of our defensive lapses at times, looking comfortable but then looking amateurish.

We also need to replace a chief scout that didn't have the best reputation, Samba and Nelsen came through agents, not him scouting them.

In my view Rovers had become a bit stale and a shake up was not going to happen under Hughes as he believed in his coaching "team" as he called them on many occasions.

Until signings are confirmed and departures happen I will reserve judgement on the ins and outs rather than try and justify or vilify every possible move.

Lets deal in facts.

The old regime is gone, a new one is being built.

So far, in my opinion, the right kind of vision seems to be in place in regards to the structure, whether the personnel are a success or failure will come down to our performances this season, but remember, Hughes and his "team" didn't produce the goods overnight.

[Majiball]

Right guys I think we've all been taken aback by the recent news, coming on to the forums. I for one am rather concerned at the moment. The most concerning part of all is the news on Brad and the fact our club have yet to make any move to deny the story at all. Whether you feel he should stay or go, the fact remains brad is one of the top keepers in our league point proven by the fact two of our major rivals want his services.

Brad has been a great example to us all he is practically ever present and we owe a lot of our recent success to his goalkeeping genius, I'm sure he could have left us for a so-called bigger stage many times but he has not he is Rover through and through.

Its our time to re-pay that loyalty and servitude, by showing him how much he means to us all. he has done what most players scough in these days and stayed with us through thick and thin!

We have started a face-book group called Save our Brad, I for one do not want to see him leave, he is still a top keeper more than capable of doing a job for a top 6 team. It may not be enough to save him but at least we will have shown how we feel about brad and the decision! SIGN UP NOW!!! Its time for us to re-pay him!!!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=19055767117

[Torgeir]

He doesn't work very hard, he's slow, he's @#/? in the air, his little/no motivation left in him and he struggles awfully with fitness.

He's a goal poacher and doesn't work hard, I agree. But what he should have to make the step back up is motivation. Without it he's definitely finished. I'm not overly excited by this, but it's not like Ince is throwing money away by (possibly) giving Fowler one last chance in the top flight. What really concerns me is if Friedel leaves, but my guess is we won't find a replacement so he'll stay put...beggars can't be choosers after all.

[67splitscreen]

Thats likely a smokescreen. What manager declares their budget, or even gives an indication on it?

The one thing he's done right so far.

Sorry it was intended to emphasize an early return of JW,

[T4E]

He doesn't work very hard, he's slow, he's @#/? in the air, his little/no motivation left in him and he struggles awfully with fitness.

But apart from that he's just like Shearer.

He'll sign for a year, and leave in January.

[LeChuck]

One thing is sure, Paul Ince is obviously a strong-minded guy.

That's only a good thing if he's right, if he's wrong and won't listen to other people telling him so then it will be a disaster for us.

Fowler didn't impress at all for Liverpool in his 'final hurrah', where is his motivation to do well for us? There simply isn't one.

There must be a reason why every other Premiership club won't touch him with a barge pole, because any Prem team could have him if they wanted...including Hull and Stoke.

[LeChuck]

But apart from that he's just like Shearer.

He'll sign for a year, and leave in January.

That does seem the most likely scenario.

Doesn't Ince prefer a 4-5-1 formation as well? I can't imagine anyone less suited to that formation.

[roverfanuk]

Just picked this up from tribal football.

http://www.myfootballnews.co.uk/news_jump.html?story=843057

Blackburn Rovers boss Paul Ince admits he's still to discuss a transfer budget with the board.

"I've not really spoken to the chairman about the amount of money I'll have to spend as yet," he told the Lancashire Telegraph. "The most important thing initially was to get the staff I wanted to bring in sorted out, and we've almost completed that now.

"When the chairman comes back off holiday we'll then sit down again and have another look at that."

After the last 24 hrs, I don't think you will have long to wait,

That doesnt make sense? Surely they will have discussed his transfer budget when he was negotiating his move to the club??