[Archived] Nickos (newer) Thread

[Dufflite]

nope can't do it. I awoke this morning trying to be positive about Inces manouverings but I just can't do it. I can't believe he is not being roped in for a word in his ear from JW.

Let me try once more..."selling Brad and bringing in Fowler is a good thing". Nope it still sounds bollux.

[Parsonblue]

One of the beauties of this 'vastly deteriorating' site is that when you write something down it stays there.

Which is why I want post5252 kept for posterity.

And looked at again in about three days...

There is a lot more to the Brad Friedel situation than has come out.

It is a revealing aspect that will be gone into - hopefully at length - in the Sunday People tomorrow.

In the meantime, no guessing, no campaigns, nowt.

The reason for what is developping will become clear.

That is the last word on the subject from me for 24 hours.

Nice to see the Castillo speculation being confirmed. Is that another one of the 1 in 20, I wonder.

Try to ignore some of the folk on here Nicko. Some people see things through a blue & white tinted glass that blinds them to reality. Even John Williams has said that the club have received bids for Brad. Obviously, you have heard whispers and I look forward to reading about them. However, your pieces on here are valued by most as they give us some clue as to what is happening at our club. I think it is interesting that in today's LT it is John Williams who is quoted as saying that Fowler is only being looked at and that Ince wants to keep Brad.

[imy9]

Nicko- any truth that we are in talks with Pennant, what do you think?

Jermaine Pennant is a quality player.

He is 25 years old, has pace, dribbling ability and has all the attributes to be a world class player.

He was the man of the match vs AC Milan in the Champions league final only a year ago.

I have an open mind about who Ince gets as at the moment we have bought NO one and sold NO ONE!! Get a grip...

[den]

Fowler given two weeks to prove himself.

Story blown out of all proportion - JW.

[bats]

I will shed a bit more light on that in the paper tomorrow. If it is too complicated for them I will put the details here.

Good tale.

I would not like to unravel it though.

Nicko, is this in the paper!?

[roverthemoon]

If Friedel leaves, it'll be because HE wants to - Nicko's trouble-making report opens the door - and if Mark Hughes wants the player the player will go to Mark Hughes.

Why would Friedel run to Mark Hughes just because Mark Hughes wants him?. Is this a case of Tris trouble making when he does not know the facts just like everyone else. Friedel has stated he loves it at rovers and I have found absolutely no evidence that he has changed his mind. If Tris has privvy to his private life or has found links maybe we could be enlightened. Or is this a case of "dont do as I do, do as I say."

[nicko]

Fowler given two weeks to prove himself.

Story blown out of all proportion - JW.

Says the local newspaper that missed the tale that the rest of football is talking about...

Again.

Nothing in it, obviously.

[bob fleming]

Thirdly your nostalgia for life before AN highlights to many on here that many of the veterans who joined during your era seem to resent the intrusion of all new rabble in to what you consider your cyber neighbourhood. If you don't like the neighbours mate - move out to the suburbs. There are plenty other threads. Maybe start a 'cosy old boys thread' or 'BRFCS original anoraks thread'.

Ooooooooooo listen to her!

The Writing Style of a Tabloid Journalist "This is because many tabloid reporters have the uncanny ability to make so much of so little"

Friedel may well leave. Fowler may not sign. That's it really. Can't say I'm enthralled with either bit of news but that's more or less the news.

All the rest of it, the ups and downs, the snippets, the exclusives, the next major development on the sale of the club, "you'll not believe this when you read it!" - it'll leave us all as gibbering wrecks come the start of the season if we're not careful! Please don't get me wrong nicko, keep it coming I say, it's not your fault we can't keep things in perpective and the new cybermen turn on the old cyberanoraks or vice versa - or both.

*sits ageing body down on park bench* "I remember the olden days you know, hardest game in the world football...." if you didn't buy the Telegraph you more or less hadn't a clue what was going on at BRFC. You could actually forget all about it at the end of one season and then pick it up at the start of the next - if you wanted (which we don't of course). "By 'eck whose that new right back? He's good!" It didn't matter if you didn't know we'd bought him from Hereford for £25k and a bag of footballs. It makes no odds, you can't change a thing...

Then again you can always sign up to something or other on Facebook.

A BRFCS Cyberman yesterday on hearing the news about Big Brad and Robbie Bloody Fowler. N.B. Notice permanent downturned mouth.

[thenodrog]

Why do you care? Aren't you one of them? Aren't you playing golf next season instead? If so get off the forum. If not try and pretend you adhere to what the initials BRFCS stand for. How many Rovers fans read this every day and have to read your 10 posts a day knocking the new manager?

This before a ball has even been kicked.

Thank God we've got nicko to keep things on an even keel I say.

Can I remind everyone that to date we've sold no one and signed no one. We've exactly the same squad as last season - who were deemed by many as not good enough.

I tell you what, try and give the internet a wide birth. All this desire to find out what's happening before the next man can drive you mad you know. Do you know what actually happened today? We've taken a player on a pre season tour to have a look at him. FACT.

Chances are he's no chance. Maybe he's realised this is his last ever chance? Either way, what have we lost?

Spot on.

Bob you daft bguger..... it's your dearly beloved Nicko that started the feeding frenzy with two posts on Thursday I think. The first when he confirmed my news from last Sun/Mon (that I got slated for) that Freidel was likely out the door to City and the second when he told us all last thing Thurs night to all buy the Mirror cos he was literally shaking at the news of a new signing for us. The overly optimistic must have felt like slitting their throats when they saw who it was!

Oh btw does "Why do you care? Aren't you one of them? Aren't you playing golf next season instead? If so get off the forum" apply to all members who dont go to Ewood on a regular basis? Even including those who live abroad, dont go or contribute financially to the club in any way but care to offer an opinion on here? Cos at least I'm fully paid up for next year whether I go or not so therefore imo I have EVERY right to hold and express my opinion. Maybe you should write to BRFC and suggest that any season ticket holder who gives an opinion that does not adhere strictly to the official line should have their Season ticket revoked and them given their money back. If so you'd be mighty lonely next season huddled behind the Blackburn End goal with the other eleven.

[bob fleming]

Oh btw does "Why do you care? Aren't you one of them? Aren't you playing golf next season instead? If so get off the forum" apply to all members who dont go to Ewood on a regular basis? Even including those who live abroad, dont go or contribute financially to the club in any way but care to offer an opinion on here? etc ........

Damn - he's seen it.

I can't argue with that Theno! To be honest I'd had a few when I posted that last night. It's no excuse I know but I'm going to use it anyway! I do hope that you do go next season by the way - besides the weather really isn't encouraging anyone to take up golf is it?

[thenodrog]

In an ideal world:

Brad persuades Chowdrey to buy the club

And sacks Ince and the rest of the 4th division posse.

And we get a decent- not necessarily British- manager who actually has a clue what he's doing.

Alternatively, we come out of the shower to discover this has all been a dream and we actually appointed someone competent.

Alternatively, expanding that theme, YOU come out of the shower towelling your hair and walk into the bedroom to find Graeme Souness lolling across your silk sheets with a hungry look in his eyes is and a lump in his pyjama bottoms ........ !

[T4E]

Fowler given two weeks to prove himself.

Story blown out of all proportion - JW.

Again - would Ince really have asked Fowler to give up a contract at Cardiff purely for a two week trial? The club can try to take the sting out of it all they like, it's there and it's not the start to Ince's reign that any of us had hoped for. Interesting that those who are doubting AN on other subjects are completely ignoring the fact that he broke the Fowler story before everyone else. No doubt those of us that get proven wrong will go the Scotty route and find something else to nitpick at.

BTW - funny how JW had time to come out and talk about Fowler, but made no mention of Brad. One's been at the club a day, the other hasn't missed a game in 4 years. Not hard to figure out which one we'd most like clarification on, is it?

[Beta Ray Bill]

BTW - funny how JW had time to come out and talk about Fowler, but made no mention of Brad. One's been at the club a day, the other hasn't missed a game in 4 years. Not hard to figure out which one we'd most like clarification on, is it?

But has been mentioned somewhere else, this ongoing story on Brad seems to be limited almost exclusively to this website. The Fowler story is everywhere. Does JW have to comment on every piece of Rovers gossip?

[modes98]

BTW - funny how JW had time to come out and talk about Fowler, but made no mention of Brad. One's been at the club a day, the other hasn't missed a game in 4 years. Not hard to figure out which one we'd most like clarification on, is it?

Although it's not on the site it has been mentioned that there is something in teh paper, as quoted below.

I think it is interesting that in today's LT it is John Williams who is quoted as saying that Fowler is only being looked at and that Ince wants to keep Brad.

[Tris]

BTW - funny how JW had time to come out and talk about Fowler, but made no mention of Brad. One's been at the club a day, the other hasn't missed a game in 4 years. Not hard to figure out which one we'd most like clarification on, is it?

Fowler is factual, Friedel is speculation. In fact, it's speculation limited to one tabloid article and this messageboard!

If JW had to clarify every piece of speculation that appeared by this route, Rovers would be issuing hundreds of statements / denials every month. It's not how they work!

Once again, supporters of BRFC prepared to believe anyone but the club they support.

[T4E]

But has been mentioned somewhere else, this ongoing story on Brad seems to be limited almost exclusively to this website. The Fowler story is everywhere. Does JW have to comment on every piece of Rovers gossip?

Fowler is factual, Friedel is speculation. In fact, it's speculation limited to one tabloid article and this messageboard!

If JW had to clarify every piece of speculation that appeared by this route, Rovers would be issuing hundreds of statements / denials every month. It's not how they work!

Once again, supporters of BRFC prepared to believe anyone but the club they support.

My point remains - if he could come out and talk about Fowler, then he could have talked about Brad. Do both or neither - and if you're going to do one, atleast show you're in touch with the fanbase and address the most important one.

Disbelieving the club is what anyone with historical perspective will atleast consider - from Bellamy's clause to the continuous "we've had no takeover bids" - we all know they've got previous.

Nicko has previous too - for being right. It amazes me that so many of us still think we can doubt his sources. I guess we'll see soon enough.

[Bobby G]

Lets see how it turns out Tris...Hope you are right.

[thenodrog]

Thirdly your nostalgia for life before AN highlights to many on here that many of the veterans who joined during your era seem to resent the intrusion of all new rabble in to what you consider your cyber neighbourhood. If you don't like the neighbours mate - move out to the suburbs. There are plenty other threads. Maybe start a 'cosy old boys thread' or 'BRFCS original anoraks thread'.

Cos you lot would only follow! It'd be like being 10 or 12 and having to run away from in order to get away from a little brother every time your mates come around.

btw that last paragraph could easily be applied to other issues around the home of BRFC too.

[Tris]

My point remains - if he could come out and talk about Fowler, then he could have talked about Brad. Do both or neither - and if you're going to do one, atleast show you're in touch with the fanbase and address the most important one.

Disbelieving the club is what anyone with historical perspective will atleast consider - from Bellamy's clause to the continuous "we've had no takeover bids" - we all know they've got previous.

Nicko has previous too - for being right. It amazes me that so many of us still think we can doubt his sources. I guess we'll see soon enough.

Bellamy lied to the fans about his clause, I don't recall the club making any comment, I certainly don't recall the club lying to the fans about it.

Where's the evidence that the club have ever lied about anything to do with the sale?

[den]

My point remains - if he could come out and talk about Fowler, then he could have talked about Brad. Do both or neither - and if you're going to do one, atleast show you're in touch with the fanbase and address the most important one.

There you go.

[Parsonblue]

Fowler is factual, Friedel is speculation. In fact, it's speculation limited to one tabloid article and this messageboard!

If JW had to clarify every piece of speculation that appeared by this route, Rovers would be issuing hundreds of statements / denials every month. It's not how they work!

Once again, supporters of BRFC prepared to believe anyone but the club they support.

I thought John Williams confirmed in the LT today that the club had received interest from other clubs in Brad. Surely that makes it factual and not speculation. Interesting that the chairman is having to comment on these matters and not the manager. I suspect John Williams has a much clearer grasp of the PR disaster that Brad going and Fowler arriving would have. Hence he has said that Fowler is just being looked at and that Ince wants to keep Brad.

Nicko reported that the club was to take Ince to Germany to look at him. That was factual. Nicko reported that other clubs are interested in Brad. John Williams has confirmed that that is factual. Seems to me that Nicko has been spot on with those two stories.

[JamieUK]

Also from the LET: Blackburn boss facing Friedel fight

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport..._Friedel_fight/

Chairman John Williams, who is back in the country after a holiday abroad, said: “There is some interest but Paul Ince’s wish is to start the season with Brad Friedel.”

[Beta Ray Bill]

My point remains - if he could come out and talk about Fowler, then he could have talked about Brad. Do both or neither - and if you're going to do one, atleast show you're in touch with the fanbase and address the most important one.

Disbelieving the club is what anyone with historical perspective will atleast consider - from Bellamy's clause to the continuous "we've had no takeover bids" - we all know they've got previous.

Nicko has previous too - for being right. It amazes me that so many of us still think we can doubt his sources. I guess we'll see soon enough.

EDIT : This line is now tosh : Maybe JW isn't aware of the *need* to say anything about Brad as it's not widespread enough or so far off the mark that he doesn't want to give it any credebility? Just another possible explanation. /EDIT

Nicko also has previous too - for not always being right, or at least, not being able to prove (or have disproved) his stories. It amazes me just because he's a tame journo that there is a "Oh Oracle Al, tell us what you foresee" on everything footballing and that he has the answer to every little snippet of info. just look over this thread and you'll see what I mean. Or is it now FA law that Nicko must be consulted in advance on all transfer matters so an obscure internet site with a few hundred regular users at best can ask if Albert Smythe is joining Welling Town?

[den]

Beat you to it, Jamie!

[nicko]

Oh my...

The Lancashire Telegraph can confirm that both Aston Villa AND Manchester City are trying to sign the former United States number one.