[Archived] Nickos (newer) Thread

[Silencio]

Nicko, any idea how much we will have to pay Paul Ince when we sack him?

[BlueWhiteDynamite]

That's taking it a bit far isnt it? A baord that hasn't hardly released a bean in money to the best young manager in Britain, Nor come out and made a convincing argument for him to stay.

Secondly, whose to say that these rumours aren't coming from Brad himself- Yes I know he is Mr Rovers and a realy decent guy; but who is to say he isnt impressed by the backroom staff and feels he needs to move on to a more forawrd -thinking young, dynamic regime- like the one that has just left. I am not saying this is the case, but is a possibilty. The players have been used to a top quality backroom staff, a change for the worse would make alot of players think twice about their future.

Yes they are a bad board because they didnt release any money...... What a silly post. You cant spend money you really dont have, you make decisions based on the business and from what ive seen, the board have done very well in the transfer spending, keeping the club stable in the premier league, challenging for europe and attracting very good players to the club. Would you rather JW had taken out a massive loan in an attempt to challenge for europe and "done a Leeds"?

Some people on this board really need a slap on the head and a reality check.

[TugaysMarlboro]

Nicko, any idea how much we will have to pay Paul Ince when we sack him?

Jesus christ in heaven.

[Silencio]

Jesus christ in heaven.

Are you happy we are after Paul Robinson? How about Ray Mathias as coach? Robbie Fowler as striker?

I say Jesus Christ in Heaven to those scenarios...

[bluebruce]

The player is happy, the selling club is content, the buying club is happy.

We can all have our opinions about the rights and wrongs of it, but I don't see any of the three key elements of this deal complaining.

I know it's hard to take, but sometimes this is just the way it works out.

If Brad was being forced out you would be rightly disgusted.

If Rovers were being ripped off you would be rightly angry.

Sorry Nicko but I don't see where you're coming from. For starters, everyone is happy except us- we are the ones that have to be merely content with our lot of being raped by any club that fancies our players?

Please explain to me how we're not being ripped off. Every position in the league is worth nearly a million pounds. How many points did Brad save us last season? How many places lower would we have finished if we had lost those points? Combine all of those together, and I can't see 2.5 million as anything other than pitiful, especially considering it leaves us needing to buy a replacement on top. We will be the losers in all of this.

[rundereim]

I think it`s time we thinking on whitch players who will come inn .... and just see who is going out and than try to repace them

So nicko is there any new info on players comming inn....?

[BlueWhiteDynamite]

Are you happy we are after Paul Robinson? How about Ray Mathias as coach? Robbie Fowler as striker?

I say Jesus Christ in Heaven to those scenarios...

Paul Robinson is a fantastic goalkeeper, Its very funny this board. People slate the press for inflating stories to a rediculous proportion when it comes to blackburn( the bully boy tag a great example) yet when it comes to other clubs, you believe everything you are told.

And asking how much a manager will cost to get sacked, what a joke. You've not seen him in charge of a game with blackburn or know what he thinks is a reasoable goal with blackburn. Once again, get a grip.

[TugaysMarlboro]

Are you happy we are after Paul Robinson? How about Ray Mathias as coach? Robbie Fowler as striker?

I say Jesus Christ in Heaven to those scenarios...

Paul Robinson - yes, yes I am quite happy with that. He's been out of form, when he first come on the scene he was fantastic and was that for a very long time until recently. It's called a 'dip in form.' I seem to remember a @#/? load of people saying the same about Friedel not too long ago, along with cries of "he's past it," "he's too old now."

Ray Mathias - Not a clue about who he is in all honesty, but Ince seems to have a good mix of youth and age in his backroom team, Ince of all people knows what is needed to suceed in the PL, so i'll trust his judgement. Plus everythings about 'Sports Science' these days isn't it? I seem to remember reading Ince has added more staff members to that side of things than Hughes had.

Robbie Fowler - We haven't signed the guy yet, and if we do, so what? I'll give you this question, there's 10 minutes left we're 1-0 down to Man Utd, we have one sub left and bring on a striker. You have a straight choice, Roberts or Fowler? ... try and tell me he can't still finish.

I said "Jesus Christ in heaven" purely because you're trying to get Ince out the door before he's even started. It's a transformation for Blackburn Rovers, i'm with it 100%.

[Bazzanotsogreat]

Yes they are a bad board because they didnt release any money...... What a silly post. You cant spend money you really dont have, you make decisions based on the business and from what ive seen, the board have done very well in the transfer spending, keeping the club stable in the premier league, challenging for europe and attracting very good players to the club. Would you rather JW had taken out a massive loan in an attempt to challenge for europe and "done a Leeds"?

Some people on this board really need a slap on the head and a reality check.

You need a slap; where have I stated we have a bad board? what i will say though is that aren't the best board either.

As for the part of your post bolded what an absolutely ridiculous statement. The only person to take credit from transfer dealings is our previous manager. His excellent performance in the transfer market & subsequent decent performances in the league is and down to him and his backroom staff & nothing at all to do with the board.

If they they had backed the manager to the hilt with cash then they can take some credit; just as Jack did when we won the league.

BTW What makes you think we have no money; have you checked the £45 million the club have just pocketed from the new TV deal? An increase of over 50% on previous seasons. Then we have over 5 million in compensation from the Hughes deal & subsequent million’s saved on the difference that we were paying Hughes and his backroom staff compared to the newer regime.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Paul Robinson is a fantastic goalkeeper

They why do Spurs want to get rid?

[Mr Creosote]

Sorry if this has been mentioned, sorry for my naivety but havn't Aston Villa made an illegal approach if Freidel is aware of contact details?

[AggyBlue]

everyone is happy except us- we are the ones that have to be merely content with our lot of being raped by any club that fancies our players?

I'm not unhappy.

IMO he's past his best.

Sooner or later he'll start making an arse of himself, it could be this season, it could be next, who can say for sure.

The money seems too good to turn down. For us and for Brad.

[John]

Sorry Nicko. How do we come out of this happy??? Not happy at all. Losing one of our best players and his supposed replacement is inferior.

As I said before, there is no way in hell Brad would leave if Hughes was still in charge. But then again, Sparky was a decent judge of player and a really decent manager.

[modes98]

If Brad does not play at Macclesfield, then yes, I think Brad will have made HIS own decision.

So Brad picks the team now....If only!

Not that i am saying we should replace Brad with anyone, but Robinson is a very decent keeper, who on his day is as good as the majority in the league. He will never be in the elite but that is a very small club. Boosting his confidence is a must. Plus he has scored as many goals for Spurs as Brad has for us!

Sorry if this has been mentioned, sorry for my naivety but havn't Aston Villa made an illegal approach if Freidel is aware of contact details?

The way Nicko is talking, is that they have made us an offer and we have accepted it, subject to getting a deal in place for a replacement and Brad agreeing terms. So in that context it would not be an illegal approach.

[tonyoz]

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As I said before, there is no way in hell Brad would leave if Hughes was still in charge. But then again, Sparky was a decent judge of player and a really decent manager.

If he was offered a "double your money" payrise he might!

[Mr Creosote]

So Brad picks the team now....If only!

Not that i am saying we should replace Brad with anyone, but Robinson is a very decent keeper, who on his day is as good as the majority in the league. He will never be in the elite but that is a very small club. Boosting his confidence is a must. Plus he has scored as many goals for Spurs as Brad has for us!

The way Nicko is talking, is that they have made us an offer and we have accepted it, subject to getting a deal in place for a replacement and Brad agreeing terms. So in that context it would not be an illegal approach.

Are we then at a stage where Villa have been given permission to speak to Freidel in order to make this mind blowing offer? How did our previously content keeper get his head turned?

[Presty On Tour]

If Friedel were to leave us god forbid, this guy would be my first choice.

Robinson has never recovered since his injury, he put on so much weight when he was on crutches and has never been the same since. Ironically my suggestion is apparently who Ramos wants in as his number 1.

I agree with the Villa fans that Carson was rubbish last season, he really struggled imo.

In other news, Cardiff had a bid for ex Rover Marcus Bent rejected after Fowler's departure to us.

[Roost]

My first post after 'lurking' for years, and get the feeling it's not going to go down well, but Hello Good Evening and welcome anyway...

I've thought for the last couple of years that Brad has deteriorated in terms of his all-round game. He still pulls off some phenomenal stops but he doesn't command his area as well as many other keepers and his habit of parrying the ball into the 6 yard box rather than pushing it around the post makes me nervous. The fact that he makes the initial save tends to overshadow this and his brilliant reflexes mean people don't notice the more subtle weaknesses to his game. He also seems to struggle with free-kicks, maybe he can't adjust his feet too well at his age.

I love Brad as much as the next man, but if we can line up a suitable replacement (Foster?) I'd take £2.5m for a 37 year old.

Go easy...

Better than go easy - I would agree with you.

I think emotions are getting in the way of clarity - my first thought was 'sell Friedel? Are we crazy?' But he hasnt been as good over the last two seasons and I for one have forgiven him some errors that would have been lambasted if it had been Bobby Mimms making those mistakes.......

One Love - BRFC

[Silencio]

Travylad

My question about paying Ince off was half joking but he is said to be on 1.5 million a year which IMO is a massive overpayment for someone of his experience. First impressions of him are awful and he turns out to be as out of his depth in 6 months as he looks now then we are going to have unravelled four years of MH's work AND have to pay a fortune to Ince.

Paul Robinson: Was great when he was 18 but when I lived in Leeds for 6 years season ticket holders there said he had a of problems in his game. Mainly his ability to save from long range and his reflexes. Tottenham bought him because he was in fashion and he got picked for England because he played for Spurs. He still has the same problems he always had and is now a national joke as well as fat. He's also known to be a dick.

Ray Mathias: Read below:

Playing

Born in Liverpool, Mathias spent his entire playing career with Tranmere Rovers from 1964 to 1985 and earning two testimonials in the process; a true one-club man, making 567 Football League appearances. His time at Tranmere was not very fruitful, his most notable achievement being winning promotion from the Fourth Division in the 1975–76 season.

Coaching

After retiring from playing, Mathias joined the coaching staff at Wigan Athletic and spent three years in charge of the Latics from 1986–89. The highlight of this spell was leading Wigan to the FA Cup quarter-finals in 1987. He later returned to Tranmere as a coach but then returned to Wigan as manager for the 1998–99 season; despite leading the club to victory in the Football League Trophy final at Wembley and the Second Division play-offs he lost his job shortly afterwards.

After once again becoming part of the managerial set-up at Tranmere and spells as caretaker manager, he was finally handed the reins on a permanent basis in 2002 but sacked a year later. Mathias then had an unsuccessful caretaker spell at Chester City in 2004 and briefly worked as assistant manager at Bury in 2005.

Robbie Fowler:

Was amazing a very long time ago, I can't be bothered to write why we should go nowhere near him, it's that obvious. We haven't signed him yet but to be linked with him feels like a really sick joke.

[tony gale's mic]

Not only is Robinson inferior, but unless we're getting him for £2.5 milion or less, we are PAYING to get an inferior keeper! This makes absolutely no sense.

[1864roverite]

Says someone who's quitting to become a golfer!

He said GOAFER Den, then he can go round calling himself

Gordon the Goafer not GOLFER

[Grabbi Graeme]

Sorry Nicko. How do we come out of this happy??? Not happy at all. Losing one of our best players and his supposed replacement is inferior.

As I said before, there is no way in hell Brad would leave if Hughes was still in charge. But then again, Sparky was a decent judge of player and a really decent manager.

As Nicko stated the 3 key players ( Rovers, Villa and Brad) in the deal would be happy.

Rovers because they have got a good sum for a player who's 37

Villa as they have got their man.

Brad because he doubles his money in the last years of his playing career.

Personally I would like him to stay, but if he feels he wants to move on then he goes with my good wishes after the years of servive he has given us.

[BlueWhiteDynamite]

They why do Spurs want to get rid?

well to put it another way, when Man Utd got rid of ruud van nistelrooy or David Beckham, do you beleive they were bad players? sometimes in life thinks go wrong and you need a way out. He needs a new start. Defoe did exactly that and look at him at Pompey. Arsenal got rid of Bentley. so these are just a few examples and there are many more.

and my point about the board with transfers, If im right im sure the board appointed every single person, including Mark Hughes. They have the money, a manager would have to go through the board to approve a transfer target and they also negotiated wages of the players who came in and succeeded. In the last few year (yes maybe down to Hughes, but a manager the Board put in charge) ive seen Bellamy, Benni and Roque, all fantastic players who I would never have thought I would seen playing at Ewood in a blue and white shirt.

Everyones got the own opinion, and mine is Well done to the board.

[tonyoz]

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Ray Mathias: Read below:

You forgot to mention that he has recently been an integral part of two very successful league campaigns.

[John]

I know a lot of Spurs fans well and personally have always criticised Robinson. I just do not rate. Early last season, they started to agree with he that he is very average!

This summer is potentially turning into a joke.