[Archived] Nickos (newer) Thread

[bob fleming]

I'd think that he is more likely to spend his time in the office alternating between 'Vice City' and Big Brother.

[gumboots]

The Ince v Laudrup poll is an indication of who the voters would prefer if it came down to a choice between having Ince or Laudrup as our next manager.

I know i voted Laudrup, but i wouldn't be opposed to Ince. I think fans who voted for Laudrup would feel the same way, its not an indication of the fans hating Ince its just if there was a choice between the two of them Laudrup would be their choice.

Agreed. Preference for one is not necesarily opposition to the other.

[Leyther]

If you read the Telegraph article - and the journo is clearly in touch with Laudrup given his scoop yesterday - then there is no decision to make. Laudrup was interested but is no longer interested because there is no pot of gold to build with . And Rovers are no longer interested because, quite rightly, they question a bloke's commitment who is negotiating his release before he has even joined. All this droning on about Laudrup is therefore completely irrelevant. It was Ince, BFS or McClaren. The only possible horse would have been Nicko's HTC but, again, because of the Chelsea situation there really was no option to decide on.

It probably should have been Ince anyway. But circumstance mean it could only have been him. He has never failed so far since his days on an Ilford council estate growing up without either parents he is not going to do so now. JW hasn't failed either in his decision making. Both these facts mean we are in for an interesting, probably volatile, but ultimately successful ride. No boring Axe packed midfield now. And the visit to Upton Park on August 30th will make us the centre of national attention with bilious hatred pouring out of their stands. Can't wait...

Its also possible that Laudrup got the hint that he was going to be passed over for Ince, and let it be known that he wasn't interested anymore, reflects better on him.Much like BFS putting out that b******s on SSN yesterday that he had "withdrawn from consideration", aye ok Sam.

I would have still taken ML, clause or no clause, he didn't have a pot of gold at Getafe either, and I don't see any failures on his part yet.He may have buggered off next year, but there are no guarantees that Ince won't either, although it is less likely.I just can't help feeling we may be missing a great opportunity if the choice was for Ince over ML.

[gumboots]

Its also possible that Laudrup got the hint that he was going to be passed over for Ince, and let it be known that he wasn't interested anymore, reflects better on him.Much like BFS putting out that b******s on SSN yesterday that he had "withdrawn from consideration", aye ok Sam.

I would have still taken ML, clause or no clause, he didn't have a pot of gold at Getafe either, and I don't see any failures on his part yet.He may have buggered off next year, but there are no guarantees that Ince won't either, although it is less likely.I just can't help feeling we may be missing a great opportunity if the choice was for Ince over ML.

And we might equally be grabbing one with both hands

[Leyther]

And we might equally be grabbing one with both hands

Fair point, we will soon find out.I actually tipped Ince the day Hughes left, I was in the pub though, so it could have been the beer talking.He still worries me though, now it's actually going to happen.

[Fife Rover]

the first five or six games will be crucial for Ince. sadly for him he will be under pressure from the start.

onwards and upwards!

I'd love to know what this "plan" is though. Is it Inces or a combined effort with JW? are the first years consolidation and rebuilding, or are we pushing for europe?

imo if its the former that is unacceptable for a club that has achieved what we have in the past three years

I agree with what I believe your worries are there STLR. However as I see it, a certain amount of consolidation and re-building is going to be inevitable given that we have lost all the main men on the coaching staff, and are very likely to lose Bentley and possibly other key players as well. This situation was always going to apply no matter who was appointed, and anyone who thinks that it would not apply if Laudrup comes is simply not facing the facts.

[USABlue]

Thank you USA. Politics?.....Haven't time cos I'm always pratting about on here. Must say if Ince takes charge i'll either try doing politics Sat afternoons or try playing some golf.

What after you strongly ridiculed those Rovers fans that spoke of desertion if BFS was appointed. Don't make me use the 'H' word on you.

Anyway, make yourself busy on Saturday afternoons, you won't miss many games, not that many played then anymore heh heh.

[Fife Rover]

We all know that Fife but if there had not been any black refs the massive and much heralded 'Kick racism out of Football' campaign would have been open to all manner of criticism and ridicule.

I know what you are getting at but you really should try and think things through a bit more.

The one thing I should absolutely NOT NEED to think about Theno is the colour of the pigmentation in anybodies' skin. That includes referees as well. And that applies to everyone else as well.

[Wiggy]

It seems that Bilic has resigned from the Croatian job and expressed an interest in managing in England. What a shame that hadn't happened last week.

[Roversider]

And we might equally be grabbing one with both hands

Totally agree, I was pro Laudrup but also happy with Ince. Given some of the apparent contract demands from Laudrup to Panathanaikos (and probably Rovers) he is a non-starter, unless of course, he dropped those demands.

Anyway Ince is an opportunity for Rovers and vice versa.

By the way Gumboots, always said that there was no way Allardyce would be appointed and I'm glad you can sleep easy again

[RibbleValleyRover]

Hoping we hear something confirmed today and then they can do a press conferance on Monday.

I just want this saga to end so we can start planning for the season.

[rovgers]

Hoping we hear something confirmed today and then they can do a press conferance on Monday.

I just want this saga to end so we can start planning for the season.

I agree with that.

The fact that the most of the media have been saying that Ince has got the managers job, since thursday, by time Rovers get round to making it official, it will feel a bit of an anti-climax.

Get the manager in and lets start talking about transfers.

When does pre season training start, is it usually the first week in august?

Which leaves us about 10 days to get the manager and his back room staff sorted out before it starts.

[AggyBlue]

It seems that Bilic has resigned from the Croatian job and expressed an interest in managing in England. What a shame that hadn't happened last week.

I think he could be looking towards Wham.

[gumboots]

Totally agree, I was pro Laudrup but also happy with Ince. Given some of the apparent contract demands from Laudrup to Panathanaikos (and probably Rovers) he is a non-starter, unless of course, he dropped those demands.

Anyway Ince is an opportunity for Rovers and vice versa.

By the way Gumboots, always said that there was no way Allardyce would be appointed and I'm glad you can sleep easy again

You did and I was glad of your confidence then when I felt too many fans were settling for safety rather than possible progress. I don't know why but I somehow believed you!

[philipl]

Ok stuffing myface on a lovely 5 euro chinky chinese (there are benefits to life in the sun) between meetings (yes I know its Saturday- what sun?!?)

Paul Melilieu bottom page 27 and AJW middle of page 30 are the sum total of posts on here that have added to this particular human's sum of understanding of the mystery that is the Rovers' Manager.

BNSG should try taking me off ignore then he won't get his numbers wrong by over £10m (but he won't see this ha ha).

Methinks Michael Laudrup royally cocked up the interview and his agent's piece in the Telegraph was the agent's loyal attempt to get the job for him when they realised after the event that JW had used his time very effectively anbd that Rovers was the ideal next job. Laudrup had spent too much time talking to Greek football people and frankly I don't blame him wanting conditions of having a Gulfstream at the end of the runway with the engines running.

Seems we had two fantastic non-British managers (and maybe a third in Bilic) we could have had but for a series of cock-ups with wrong agents, wrong Cup exits and a wrong mind set at the start of an interview. There you are 'drog, the cock-up theory of history at work. Hughes to Citeh- cock-up; Ince not being seriously challenged by Bilic, ten Cate and Laudrup- cock-up.

As for the colour thing, having heard one of Rovers' NEDs many many years ago, either he has had a change of view or positive discrimination would not be at the top of the Rovers agenda.

[roverfanuk]

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but i don't have time to go through the pages to see if someone has posted this.

Nicko, do you know a writer named Darren Lewis, who writes for the Mirror.

In the following article he states:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/200...89520-20614453/

The Serb's loss, however, is Rovers' gain even though Ince will lose Bentley to a club playing European football - probably Spurs - and Santa Cruz to either Arsenal, Manchester City or United.

Firstly, are the players nolonger under contract? Last time i checked it wasnt a forgone conclusion that they were both going to leave? Using the word 'might' instead of 'will' would probably be something this chap needs to use in his articles more often...

Second, The teams he has selected as the likely destinations of the 2 players could not be more predictable. Bentley has been linked with Liverpool, but no, he has to go to a London team, who has already spent big in that position of midfield.

Santa Cruz's agent HAS been contacted by Manchester United officials, which i thought in itself was against Premier League rules, but hey, if a team contacts Ronaldo's agent it should be reported, where as if another teams players agents get contacted by United, the other team don't have a leg to stand on?!

I just find these double standards really pathetic... Does it get on your nerves Nicko, or are you just semi-glad of a good story?

[philipl]

Who is this Dick Lewis?

The fact he is mates with Ince is making me very anti-Ince.

This prat never covered Rovers until Ince was in the scene and now we get nothing but ***** written about us in the Morror (except by our eponymous hero).

[Saf]

anyone seen nicko today

[AggyBlue]

Who is this Dick Lewis?

The fact he is mates with Ince is making me very anti-Ince.

I'd like to know if any of that came from the horses mouth.

[Saf]

http://www.mkdons.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Goa...0710420,00.html one thing i noticed from their stats from last season was their was a huge number of differnt scorers, looks like quite a few have chipped in with goals from all over the park. thts someting rovers need to impove on we rely so heavily on our strikers, we hardly hav a natural goal scorers from midfield or a defender who can chip in with 6-7 goals per season like lescott,. We need goal scorers all over the park who can chip in not 2 or 3 who seem to be amongst the scorers all the time

[Whyoy]

An advantage that Ince must have over Laudrup is his knowledge of up and coming British players in the lower leagues. Given Sepp Blatters recent attempts to have a greater proportion of home national players in each team, Ince's scouting network in the last two and a half years with Macclesfield and MK Dons must have identified players with potential even though his teams might not have been able to afford to buy them.

[vintageadidas]

Bryan Robson to be his assistant.

[Saf]

Bryan Robson to be his assistant.

really, where did u hear tht

[AggyBlue]

Ince's scouting network in the last two and a half years with Macclesfield and MK Dons must have identified players with potential even though his teams might not have been able to afford to buy them.

I'm sure that will come in handy should we find ourselves in the first division in the next couple of years.

[misterbigalow]

http://www.mkdons.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Goa...0710420,00.html one thing i noticed from their stats from last season was their was a huge number of differnt scorers, looks like quite a few have chipped in with goals from all over the park. thts someting rovers need to impove on we rely so heavily on our strikers, we hardly hav a natural goal scorers from midfield or a defender who can chip in with 6-7 goals per season like lescott,. We need goal scorers all over the park who can chip in not 2 or 3 who seem to be amongst the scorers all the time

I completely agree, if Ince can get other players in the team scoring more goals, not only will it make for more entertaining football at Ewood but might be the difference between finishing 7th at the end of the season, or getting just a single point more to finish 6th and get into Europe. I think that was one of the biggest factors why we didn't get into Europe, we relied too much on the front men getting the goals. Pedersen was scoring towards the end of the season, but it was too late by then, and he couldn't score to save his life at the start of the season, and if Ince can get players like him, and the other midfielders, to score more goals, then that would be great.