[Archived] Nickos (newer) Thread

[cruz]

Has anyone shed any light on the content of the PM that Nicko recieved regarding how Laudrup came to John Williams attention? I trawled as far as page 21 and then got sore square eyes

[Alan75]

As far as Im concerned If he hasnt a valid reason for not going to Wales, he has allready showed disrespect to John Williams the club and it's supporters.

I'll be honest I didnt like him as a player and Hes got a lot more convincing to do now - to achieve any respect from me.

[Saf]

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/tm_...-name_page.html

this is nickos articles

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Well, this is a great start isn't it Ince,very impressive indeed 't Guvnor.

I just hope and pray JW has not backed himself into a corner with this one,lets hope there are others interested.

[RevidgeBlue]

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/tm_...-name_page.html

this is nickos articles

So this relatively dramatic story about Ince's non-attendance will be running tomorrow will it nicko?

[Parsonblue]

Nicko, have you heard any whispers as to whether the Rovers and MK Dons have reached an agreement so that we can speak to Ince officially?

While I still feel that Ince will be appointed I do think that his credibility is beginning to wear thin. Failure to attend the coaching course may not be a deciding factor but it certainly counts against him. I still don't understand why he hasn't got the qualifications in the first place. If he is ambitious and wants to manage in the Premier League he knew full well what qualifications he needed. Hughes and his backroom team got them why not Ince? It's beginning to make me wonder if he is really has a modern approach to coaching or if he is relying on the knowledge he picked up as a player. I must admit that this is may main concern about his appointment. Hughes had introduced a modern, scientific approach to coaching and the game in general. I would hate us to revert back to more basic methods.

A great deal is going to depend on who he appoints in his backroom team apart from Ray Mathias. If we get off to a poor start another worry is that it will turn into another 'Jim Iley' scenario were the manager comes under fire almost immediately. The fact that a manager like Laudrup was linked with the job will almost certainly have cut short the honeymoon period that Ince will enjoy with the supporters.

Like Allardyce, Ince has his supporters but he also has his critics who feel just as strongly about him as those who didn't want big Sam.

I fear that we may go into the the new season with a distinct lack of harmony around Ewood Park.

[Jan]

So this relatively dramatic story about Ince's non-attendance will be running tomorrow will it nicko?

As, if you bothered to check back, it came up AFTER the deadline for articles- Nicko said this- I presume it will- unless further facts arise today.

[RevidgeBlue]

As, if you bothered to check back, it came up AFTER the deadline for articles- Nicko said this- I presume it will- unless further facts arise today.

Thank you Janice, I did check back and am fully aware nicko said that.

[Hasta]

I wonder if it could be a case of Rovers asking Ince to go on the course. Ince saying "Oh goody, I've got the job then" and Rovers saying we've not fully decided yet but IF we offer it you then you'll need to have been on this course. Ince thinks about it and because he's not got a definite green light from Ewood he doesn't attend thinkng that he'll attend the next one if offered the job.

It's still very shoddy on Ince from our point of view but if he then wasn't offered the role it makes stopping at MK Dons a bit easier from his and their point of view.

[LeftWinger]

Maybe Ince asked someone how you get to Wales in a car, and they told him one in the back and one in the front.

[Paul Mellelieu]

I'm sure I've read that although Ince does not have the top qualification, he does have some coaching badges, so to say he has none, may be wide of the mark.

[JAL]

Somebody please tell me this is one big wind-up that Ince is to be given £4.5 m for three years work when hes no qualifications, and then hes being quoted as having a three year plan when all we need is TWO quality central midfielders and a fast, pacey striker.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Could it be that Ince thought the job was in the bag - then the Laudrup story broke - and then JW approached MK Dons only for an interview. Result - major hissy fit.

The reality is that nobody really knows what is going on in the back-ground between Ince, MK Dons and Rovers. We do have our very special info gatherer in Nicko - but even he missed the Laudrup meeting (btw great credit to JW for getting that one in without the media finding out).

Though I have no great liking for how Ince comes across in the media (I think we have to remember that deep down he might be a really nice guy - aka Robbie Savage - as none of us really know the guy) I don't think this should cloud our judgement. Lets be fair - everyone would agree that Clough, Fergie, Wenger have an arrogance about them - but ultimately this is often what makes them winners and the likes of MacClaren a good coach but poor manager.

[Saf]

one thing u hv to give the guy is credit, unlike shearer who cant e bothered to get off his back side, and like to sit on his comfy warm chair and talk utter rbbish everyday, ince unlike however has shown a desire to get into management, make a name from him slef starting at the very bottom whith maacsfield where hes got his hands dirty, then to mk dons where he transfred them from relegation contenders into leauge and cup winners in the space of a season. so all is not gloom. he diefinelty seems to be willing to step up to the plate

[bats]

I'm sure I've read that although Ince does not have the top qualification, he does have some coaching badges, so to say he has none, may be wide of the mark.

I was begginning to warm to the idea of Ince as coach, until Laudrup came into the race, yet I still didn't mind Ince. However to not tourn up to the course in Wales has made me rethink by stance on Ince, if he doesn't turn up to the course even before he got the job , I worry what he will be like as the manager. He shows a lack of commitment and passion in managging Rovers and therefore I don't really want him as our manger. (granted there maybe a valid reason for hsi absence)

When Laudrup and even Billic are being linked to the job, surely these shoudl be seriously considered over Ince. Laudrup or Billic are two bigger names in the world of footbal at the present time and are more liekly to keep players such as RSC and even persuade Bentley. Whereas Ince I don't believ could! Remember the step up from league 2 to the premiership is mighty and thats why a manager such as laudrup may be more suited as he has managed a simialr club to rovers in La Liga. It is clear that some people like Ince and some people don't , whereas I believ the majority would prefer Laudrup or perhaps Billic.

Appointing either Billic or Laudrup shows the ambtion of Blackburn Rover in going for a big name, hopefully enhancing rovers reputation. However I believe appointing Ince shows a step back as I cannot see him taking us much further forward than Sparky but perhaps thats all we want.

Please Mr Williams, wow the premier league and appoint Billic or Laudrup!!!!

[Hasta]

, then to mk dons where he transfred them from relegation contenders into leauge and cup winners in the space of a season. so all is not gloom.

He took over MK Dons in the summer of 2007. The season before they had finished 4th in the league, one point off an automatic promotions spot, and lost in the play-offs.

Hardly relegation candidates.

[RevidgeBlue]

He took over MK Dons in the summer of 2007. The season before they had finished 4th in the league, one point off an automatic promotions spot, and lost in the play-offs.

Hardly relegation candidates.

Yet Laudrup took Getafe, who had finished 9th in the previous two seasons, down to 14th in La Liga and is hailed as some kind of potential messiah.

Nowt as queer as folk.

[SamTheShrew]

MK Dons were a big fish in a small pond in League 2

[Hasta]

Please Mr Williams, wow the premier league and appoint Billic or Laudrup!!!!

If Laudrup is holding out for clauses that allow him to leave to any club with a vowel in their name then I wouldn't employ him either. There's a difference in my eyes in someone who may prove himself and then use us as a stepping stone to another club, or someone who thinks he's better than us and will ditch us the first chance he'll get but wants the job for the time being.

Laudrup may well not be the latter but if he is putting demands down about clauses and things to Rovers, then Rovers are quite right to assess whether he is 'right' for the club. Obviously they feel he's not and we will have to trust their judgement on it.

[laughatthedingles]

Now as per my name I am usually inclined to have a little chuckle at the goings on up the road, however recently our club (for one reason or another) has become a little too worrying. Talk of wanting to sell the club, not wanting to sell. Differences in opinion over the sale and the new manager??

John Williams is the main man and it should be left at that, if those who are now sticking their two pennies worth want to sell the club and have its best interests at heart as they claim, leave him to it and concentrate on selling the club!

As for Ince, he is the next part of an unwelcome soap opera that is our club at the moment. We have lost one of the best managers in the league to a club consistently below us and instead of having a list of high quality replacements we have a long ball specialist, Stuart Downings bum chum and a second division manager with an ego to match Jose.

Ince should not be allowed to manager our club, he has done nothing but make us look silly througout his career and at a time when we have players questioning our ambition that is exactly what we need to show.

Go and get the best man, but make it one who signals our intent of where we want to be:

Ince: Tells us we are ready for mediocrity. hE IS EVERYTHING BAD ABOUT SOUNESS - WITHOUT THE GOOD!

Laudrup: Was one of the best, managed at the TOP level.

Bilic: Top Top Manager.

DO THE MATHS ROVERS.

[Iceman]

So let me get this right,mk dons says we can only speak to ince,if we going to take him.whats the use then in this delay,if we agreed to take him,why would we stil have to talk to him.JW you can talk to ince,but only if you going to take him.now what if JW doesnt like what ince had to say,or is not worthy,why would we stil want him.this is very strange.a guy who talked ###### bout us,who imo stil thinks we are ######,who's mate in the mirror talks ###### about us,a man who shows no commitment in wanting to view a course,and doesnt have the decency to phone the FWA to indicate,that he wont be able to make it!is this the guy we as fans want?he is a bloody ######,and i dont support him.i would rather have the tooth fairy as coach.

[RovertheHill]

Am I seeing things? I came on and went to this thread first but noticed a thread called "Laughing Stock" which I was going to check out after I'd been here - has it gone? Too much time looking at this is sending me round the bend ??

[modes98]

Yet Laudrup took Getafe, who had finished 9th in the previous two seasons, down to 14th in La Liga and is hailed as some kind of potential messiah.

He did follow Bernd Schuster, hardly an easy act to follow.

[LeftWinger]

Am I seeing things? I came on and went to this thread first but noticed a thread called "Laughing Stock" which I was going to check out after I'd been here - has it gone? Too much time looking at this is sending me round the bend ??

No you're not going mad - it's been pasted in here two posts above yours mate

[den]

Am I seeing things? I came on and went to this thread first but noticed a thread called "Laughing Stock" which I was going to check out after I'd been here - has it gone? Too much time looking at this is sending me round the bend ??

I dumped it. The topic was simply a new topic posted by LATD. That same post can be read above.