[Archived] Nickos (newer) Thread

[SamTheShrew]

It will be interesting to hear what they think.

For me we are looking to stabilise the team, particularly if we end up losing a few key players. I would expect us to not be anywhere near Uefa Cup qualification but also not get involved in the relegation fight. So around mid table, 12th-15th probably.

if that correlates with their perception, I find it difficult to understand giving Ince the job - thats accepting degression from where we are - when by getting a bigger name in we could perhaps achieve what we have done over the last three seasons.

this 3-4 year plan....why accept maybe two years of nothingness? we don't have to where we are right now.

this is what I've struggled to understand in all of this. lack of ambiton? i find it baffing and dismaying

[Paul Mellelieu]

if that correlates with their perception, I find it difficult to understand giving Ince the job - thats accepting degression from where we are - when by getting a bigger name in we could perhaps achieve what we have done over the last three seasons.

this 3-4 year plan....why accept maybe two years of nothingness? we don't have to where we are right now.

this is what I've struggled to understand in all of this. lack of ambiton? i find it baffing and dismaying

Sam, nothing you say makes any sense at all.

Give Ince a chance.

[cn_barlow]

Sam, nothing you say makes any sense at all.

Give Ince a chance.

I think what he says makes perfect sense...

[SamTheShrew]

maybe i didn't get what i meant across very well. im just interested in what expectations are for next season. We should be aiming for around the same league finish, I hope this is what expectations are.

I will give Ince a chance, i just hope we don't have to take backwards steps in order to go forward

[RovertheHill]

maybe i didn't get what i meant across very well. im just interested in what expectations are for next season. We should be aiming for around the same league finish, I hope this is what expectations are.

I will give Ince a chance, i just hope we don't have to take backwards steps in order to go forward

Interesting thought. Most clubs expect to move forward when they appoint a new manager. I would hope we do too

[Paul Mellelieu]

I think what he says makes perfect sense...

Well Rawtenstall's near the border, so maybe you can understand the Yorkshire dialect.

[unleaded]

A Big Well done to JW and his board............I am more then happy with this appointment and I Know Mr Williams has a good taste in managers..........as he has proved once again..........

Like Nicko said IT is JW who has seen each candidate, listened to them, thought about it,and then has made his decision.........................

[mjs]

Some of you need to get a grip.

There were risks attached to all the candidates, and no guarantees of success with anyone. Mark Hughes was always going to be a hard act to follow, and if the club think that Paul Ince is the right man for the job then so be it.

Give the man a chance and stop all the doom and gloom before a ball has even been kicked.

Paul Ince's Blue 'n White Army!!

[Sysagent]

Well thats that then.

Would have prefered Laudrup or Bilic for the job, have to say it's a step backwards in my opinion and I think Mr Williams and the Rover's board will probably come to regret their appointment within the next six months...

I hope I am proved otherwise and we are up there with the best of them come Christmas.

But I just honestly can't see it happening, Ince will be completely out of his depth in the Premier League as a manager, unless there is some inspirational characters in his backroom staff that manage to keep the ship afloat.

[USABlue]

It's fairly insulting tbh to suggest I would like Ince appointed simply because it is an overtly PC move or because he is black. Couldn't care less about Ince being black which shouldn't even be a consideration. It's almost as annoying when e.g. the Guardian parades it as a great step forward for mankind simply because he is black as when someone is obviously prejudiced against him because of it.

I REALLY REALLY don't want to get this thread on a downhill spiral to a discussion on race. I do wonder however if race may have played a part in the FA's dispensation for Ince. I mean, could one imagine the potential furor had he been denied after Southgate and Roeder had been allowed to continue without the qualifications. Just a thought.

[Hi Mack]

Welcome to Ewood Paul Ince!

Now all this manager talk has come to a end we can get back to what matters!

we can put all our concentration and energy to supporting the team and new manager!

no matter what your opinions are on the appointment of Ince theres no doubt it'll be

exciting to see what happens over the next few months!

Also the backroom staf is just as important as the manager himself so it will be interesting

to see who comes in!Will fevre still be physio?

[AJW]

what will we talk about now ? ...................oh yes.. bentley.......

[adopted scouser]

Approve or not it's time to get behind the fella. Interesting to think he might have a bit of pull when it comes to ex Utd or Liverpool players, in much the same way Hughes signed Robbie and Bellers.

And I'm sorry, but as much as loved Sparky at Ewood I hope Citeh is a disaster.

[ThatRabbitsDynamite]

Approve or not it's time to get behind the fella. Interesting to think he might have a bit of pull when it comes to ex Utd or Liverpool players, in much the same way Hughes signed Robbie and Bellers.

And I'm sorry, but as much as loved Sparky at Ewood I hope Citeh is a disaster.

Agreed on all points but, emphasis on Man City or actually for me Shinawatra. I don't care for the guy.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

His ego will be bigger than any Rovers player ego, I am certain of that.

Lets hope not,he needs to be level headed and intelligent enough to get the best out of our squad.Ince needs to make a good impression fast with the fans too looking at comments.

(Sitting at computer with fingers crossed and eyes to the heavens)

[FourLaneBlue]

I REALLY REALLY don't want to get this thread on a downhill spiral to a discussion on race. I do wonder however if race may have played a part in the FA's dispensation for Ince. I mean, could one imagine the potential furor had he been denied after Southgate and Roeder had been allowed to continue without the qualifications. Just a thought.

I thought about that as well. Not so much that Rovers used it but if they HAD refused the dispensation for Ince then they would have been a very dodgy position...blocking the first black British manager in the top flight when Southgate is there being allowed through. It would have looked very bad for the FA and especially whichever chairman was mostly against Ince being allowed in...

Nicko mentioned that Southgate and Roeder were different as they were already employed by their clubs...but in fact that makes their situations worse as they were already at the club and hadn´t bothered to go through the course. Besides whether or not they were already employed at the club is largely irrelevant. They were not employed as manager and that is all that matters.

There was no way they could block Ince...but maybe they are going to make a stand in the future when it would be less controversial. It does make a bit of a mockery of it if it is supposedly mandatory but then they keep letting exceptions in.

[Darth Paul]

Can't understand some of the negativity towards our new appointment on this board, we have justy appointed a young, ambitious manager who is a born winner. All the other candidates were either never going to happen, or disasters waiting to happen, so I think we have landed a good one here. From what I know of John williams we must have got the best man for the job out of 40 + applicants, including some experienced names, so I think it is naive to start panicking until we have at least got a good way into Ince's tenure.

What I want to focus on now is how Incey goes about improving what is probably the best squad a Rovers boss has ever inherited, as well as having plenty to spend. Lets remember that plenty of teams have outspent us in recent years, only for us to leave them in our wake, so why should this year be any different? Last season we under performed and finished seventh, partially aided and abetted by decisons Sparky did or didn't make, so who knows what we can do this year?

Ince needs to keep Santa Cruz and either sort Bentley out or get shut for good money. From there we have the basis of a cracking squad, and being a former midfielder himself hopefully he can use his experience to sort out the area which we need sorting out the most. Vogel will have a preseason under his belt, McCarthy should be back and a couple of new signings should see us looking good. No one can predict what the future holds but I feel at this stage talk of relegation battles and bottom half finishes are knee jerk and premature...there is a hell of a lot to be positive about!

[thenodrog]

On the Rovers' site too.

Well life will be boring now.

Good article from today's Observer http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/06/..._mark_than.html

Crap article it's only bothered about the colour of his bloody skin ffs..... and that ancient bloody hippy should wear a collar and tie.

[American]

His ego will be bigger than any Rovers player ego, I am certain of that.

I'm certain of the opposite. Here is a guy who took control of a team way adrift at the bottom of the table as his first job, can't name a lot of other ex-stars who would do the same. Also made Andrews captain after having fallen out with him while they played together. Doesn't strike me as letting his ego get in the way of that decision, either.

[AJW]

Interesting to think he might have a bit of pull when it comes to ex Utd or Liverpool players,

Paul Scholes anyone?

[AggyBlue]

Can't understand some of the negativity towards our new appointment on this board, we have justy appointed a young, ambitious manager who is a born winner. All the other candidates were either never going to happen, or disasters waiting to happen, so I think we have landed a good one here. From what I know of John williams we must have got the best man for the job out of 40 + applicants, including some experienced names, so I think it is naive to start panicking until we have at least got a good way into Ince's tenure.

What I want to focus on now is how Incey goes about improving what is probably the best squad a Rovers boss has ever inherited, as well as having plenty to spend. Lets remember that plenty of teams have outspent us in recent years, only for us to leave them in our wake, so why should this year be any different? Last season we under performed and finished seventh, partially aided and abetted by decisons Sparky did or didn't make, so who knows what we can do this year?

Ince needs to keep Santa Cruz and either sort Bentley out or get shut for good money. From there we have the basis of a cracking squad, and being a former midfielder himself hopefully he can use his experience to sort out the area which we need sorting out the most. Vogel will have a preseason under his belt, McCarthy should be back and a couple of new signings should see us looking good. No one can predict what the future holds but I feel at this stage talk of relegation battles and bottom half finishes are knee jerk and premature...there is a hell of a lot to be positive about!

Thanks DP. What I wanted to say but couldn't be bother typing it all.

I'm not bothered about sorting Bentley out, I'd rather just bank 15M.

[bennyboyt11]

cant wait to see what signings ince makes!

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

I think reality time for any Rovers fans opposing Ince. Personally I would have preferred Laudrup - but we don't know for sure that he would have joined anyway.

Unfortunately, given our financial situation, we can't hire or attract the next Mourinho. We have to look in the lower leagues and hope that a gamble pays off.

For me a lot depends on his back-room staff - I just hope that the high quality training he will have received at United, Inter and Liverpool will have left a lasting impression - and he carries forward the excellent work of MH back room staff.

BTW - does anyone know if the fitness expert we got from Bolton left with MH or is still at the club ?

[FourLaneBlue]

I'm certain of the opposite. Here is a guy who took control of a team way adrift at the bottom of the table as his first job, can't name a lot of other ex-stars who would do the same. Also made Andrews captain after having fallen out with him while they played together. Doesn't strike me as letting his ego get in the way of that decision, either.

Tony Adams tried it at Wycombe and fell flat on his face.

The success of Ince is a stark contrast to that.

I do have some reservations about Ince from the last few days (the Mirror article and regarding the FAW course) but overall this is the time to be optimistic. Ince could be great for us. It may happen that he is a disaster...but why worry about that just now? Don´t worry....there will be plenty of time to do that if it happens!

[Paul Mellelieu]

Crap article it's only bothered about the colour of his bloody skin ffs..... and that ancient bloody hippy should wear a collar and tie.

I don't believe that you can't see that Ince's appointment is an important milestone. Come on just admit it, nobody's goignto think any less of you, AESF aside who's probaly dusting off his white pointy hat.

More importantly have you found your golf clubs yet?