[Archived] Nickos (newer) Thread

[brian_gallagher85]

Someobody needs to tell Dumb and Dumber that you can't spend what you've not got.

Taxi for Claridge, by the way!

That's not all Claridge needs to be told

[thenodrog]

Basically saying the board need to pump money in, as it will be impossible to stay where we are unless we provide more cash. Said what Hughes did, with the money he had, was a miracle that cannot be repeated.

Well we'll be relegated then. The spend nothing in Jan policy showed that the board had looked at the table, seen how far WHU and spurs were behind and settled for the place money. The board will have looked at the situation with other clubs eg Spurs, WHU, Mags, City, Sunderland etc and know that they will now pass us but that with the quality of the teams coming up the saving grace is that this season SHOULD be one of the easiest seasons to achieve survival without spending much. Common sense to anybody other than johnny foreign 'pots' (despots and dodgepots)

[Ewood Spark]

Careful Hasta you'll have the silly sod wetting himself! What about first black manager to be sent to the stands? or first black manager to refuse to talk to the TV? Best of all how about fitrst black manager to be sacked?

Personally I don't give a flying one what colour a player or manager is, I just want the best for the club in ability, demeanour, and as a figurehead and this guy is not that. I'm will say that I am NOT colour prejudiced at all.... but it's bloody obvious that Paul Mellelieu is!

Come on Theno (EX-SEASON TICKET HOLDER. NOW GOLFER) ... you've supported Rovers through darker days than this. Pick that dummy-up ... have a beer and chill-out .... Give the lad a chance. We all mature through life and I'm sure Paul Ince is no different. I too used to despise him ... just as I used to despise Mark Hughes as a player. Keep the faith. Once a Rover always a Rover.

[thenodrog]

Come on Theno (EX-SEASON TICKET HOLDER. NOW GOLFER) ... you've supported Rovers through darker days than this. Pick that dummy-up ... have a beer and chill-out .... Give the lad a chance. We all mature through life and I'm sure Paul Ince is no different. I too used to despise him ... just as I used to despise Mark Hughes as a player. Keep the faith. Once a Rover always a Rover.

Thanks ES I'll try.... but I'm promising nowt. btw I always respected Hughes, just as I do with the likes of scholes and Giggs. Ince, Cantona and Keane I simply could never abide.

[BiggusLaddus]

Biggus laddus, smallus brainus.

For disagreeing with you? My apologies, I hadn't realised how sensitive you are.

I don't see the racial side of it as a big deal at all, Ince certainly doesn't deserve to be included on a list of black sporting pioneers because of this appointment. Incidentally, Cathy Freeman also had no place on that list of black sportsmen/women with african heritage, what with her being aboriginal and all.

[John]

Apt time to read this: The higher you go the more egos you get - and you'll always find one or two bad eggs in Championship and Premiership squads. I can deal with them

[wilyrover]

Wouldn't it be wonderful to lose Theno. Now's our chance. Let's not blow it it. It took six years to defeat the nazis in the last World War. It's taken longer on here.

[sparkspakespoke]

Thanks ES I'll try.... but I'm promising nowt. btw I always respected Hughes, just as I do with the likes of scholes and Giggs. Ince, Cantona and Keane I simply could never abide.

I fell the same. Always had a lot of respect for Hughes the footballer and the person, honest and hard working. Keane and Ince have always been players I detested. Full of arogence and nastiness. I will of course give Ince my support now but I am dissapointed. Also why can he not look at the camera when being interviewed? His head bobs round like a bloody sparrow!

[Mr Creosote]

Looking on the bright side Ince does have something in common with RFW, Wenger and Mourinho.

They're @rseholes as well.

[ebenrocks]

I'm dissapointed say the least. Of course i'll back him but its going to take me a long time to come round to the idea. I just feel appointing a league 1 boss shows a total lack of ambition, and a total disregard to the fans views. It was plain to see Ince was not a popular candidate with the fans.

Im looking forward to seeing how the gaffer does in the transfer market... im not very confident but i hope he'll prove me wrong.

[brian_gallagher85]

Apt time to read this: The higher you go the more egos you get - and you'll always find one or two bad eggs in Championship and Premiership squads. I can deal with them

Thanks for that John...lightened my mood a little.

[ebenrocks]

does the fact that Ince quit as MK dons manager before being appointed Rovers manager mean that we dont have to pay the MK dons any compensation? Also, does it mean that he wont be bringing his weak as ###### backroom team with him? I hope not on both accounts.

[John]

Ray Mathias will join Ince I think. He also has an ex Army guy who does their fitness, who Ince rates highly. I guess he may come as well.....

[Hasta]

I know I've posted it on the other thread but I'm going to stick this in here too as everyone seems to just be on here.

THE WAITING IS OVER - TIME TO THINK POSITIVE - TIME TO BELIEVE

Right. Personally Ince wasn't my top choice. Not in my top 3 to be honest. Most people have accepted this announcement fairly rationally. However some of the comments made by a handful supporters on here are downright laughable. You'd think we'd employed someone with a track record for failure or a suspected mass murderer judging by one or two reactions. Are people really advocating not going down to Ewood just because we've employed Paul Ince as boss?

Most decisions in life can go both ways. No-one know how things are going to turn out. However to be critical of Rovers and the manager before the team have even kicked a ball is ridiculous. If we're struggling badly come Christmas then I could understand it but the guy hasn't even taken charge yet. I think it's time to re-assess our position and look at things in a more positive light.

Rovers have had 40+ candidates interested in the job. From these candidates they feel that Paul Ince is the best man available who wanted the job. People can look at CV's on wikipedia all they want but the fact is we are not privy to the interviews and discussions held by Rovers and the candidates. We don't know if Laudrup wanted a £50mill transfer kitty or a clause to speak to any club who comes in for him in the future. We don't know if Allardyce said his first transfer target would be Kevin Davies. The only thing we know for sure is that JW and the club believe that of everyone they spoke to Paul Ince is the best man they could get to manage the club in it's current situation.

So what has Ince done to deserve this chance I hear some cry. Well firstly he must have made a damn good impression in his interviews with his ideas and general self-presentation. Secondly we know he can manage a football team. Yes it's at a lower level but he's still go an impressive record. He saved Macclesfield from what looked an inevitable drop after they trailed the rest of the whole of the football league by 7 points. He then won the third division title with MK Dons amassing 97 points and losing only 7 league games all season. During this season they won the Football League Trophy, along the way knocking out clear Divsion One league winners Swansea over 2 legs. Now although Ince's career is relatively short, if you think about it it's obvious that he can organise a team and also inspire a team to perform. I'd rather have a manager who has shown what he has shown so far, than one who has done nothing but has a certificate from some FA coaching course.

Ah, but can he manager big name players and command respect. I don't know. However when people like Hughes, Klinsmann and Van Basten started their managerial careers we didn't know then either. What we do know is that Ince was a very good player and a winner. He played for Manchester United, Inter Milan and Liverpool. He won league titles, FA Cups and European competitions. He played over 50 times for England including several as captain. He's had a career better than most players that Rovers have, or are ever likely to have, under his tenure. People question his arrogance as a negative. This may be so but it's not reared it's head in any news stories that I'm aware of so far in his managerial career. It's possible that the boy from Ilford has grown up and matured. The comments about Rovers being a 'two bob club' many years ago are regrettable but people say and do stupid things in life. It's hardly disparaging enough to hold against him.

You look at the farce that occurs at clubs like Newcastle and Man City and sometimes you really do appreciate the fact that for whatever reason we support Rovers. They are, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future, a proper club. Several people knock JW and the 'board but it's no coincidence that Graeme Souness and Mark Hughes both said he was superb to work with. This week we have had Laudrups agent saying the JW was the best chairman he's ever dealt with. If that sounds rather cynical, the words of MK Dons chairman Pete Winkleman do not. Speaking on Sky after losing his manager to another club, he praised the way that Rovers have been completely above board and have behaved perfectly. Our club is currently run by intelligent people who have it's best interests at heart. As mentioned earlier if they think that Ince is the best man, and they know far, far more about the ins and outs of the candidates than we ever will, then that should be some reassurance for us.

The vast majority of us know what BRFC is about. We know that we are probably punching above our weight. We know that for us to have a bad season or two and drop down a league could signal an end to our dining at the top table. Ultimately we know that our best players will probably move on unless they're at the end of their careers. Bentley was going when Hughes was still here. If Santa goes too thats probably not down to a change of manager. if Ince is a success then he'll be off to. That will always be an issue now for Rovers and we'll have to live with that when the time comes. As long as he does it with a bit of class and decency (all eyes turn to Mr Bentley) then we can't grumble. Long term I hope Ince goes on the become the next English national manager. That we we know he'll have done a great job for our club.

So come on everyone. Stop whinging about who we could have had and look forward. Around Christmas myself, Rev and others were telling people to stop 'burying their head in the sand' as Rovers stumbled from one mediocre performance to the next but miraculously picked up results . The football wasn't great. Ince is known to play 'high-tempo attacking football'. We'll hopefully have a few new players in come mid-August. A new era is starting at Ewood. The last two eras have resulted generally in great times and success. There's no way of knowing if this one will. However as fans we need to ensure that Ince and the team are given the full support of everyone who claims to be a fan of Rovers. That we we can all strive to shove the words of Darren Lewis and the other southern based journalists right up their backsides.

[The Prof.]

great, smashin' fantastic,

[mjs]

Excellent post Hasta.

[The Prof.]

does the fact that Ince quit as MK dons manager before being appointed Rovers manager mean that we dont have to pay the MK dons any compensation? Also, does it mean that he wont be bringing his weak as ###### backroom team with him? I hope not on both accounts.

correct - cheapness - main criteria.

[ABBEY]

does the fact that Ince quit as MK dons manager before being appointed Rovers manager mean that we dont have to pay the MK dons any compensation? Also, does it mean that he wont be bringing his weak as ###### backroom team with him? I hope not on both accounts.

so when he quits for city then its ok for no compo?

[PrideOfLancs]

I know I've posted it on the other thread but I'm going to stick this in here too as everyone seems to just be on here.

THE WAITING IS OVER - TIME TO THINK POSITIVE - TIME TO BELIEVE

One of the best recent(ish) England performances in memory

[Saf]

I know I've posted it on the other thread but I'm going to stick this in here too as everyone seems to just be on here.

THE WAITING IS OVER - TIME TO THINK POSITIVE - TIME TO BELIEVE

Right. Personally Ince wasn't my top choice. Not in my top 3 to be honest. Most people have accepted this announcement fairly rationally. However some of the comments made by a handful supporters on here are downright laughable. You'd think we'd employed someone with a track record for failure or a suspected mass murderer judging by one or two reactions. Are people really advocating not going down to Ewood just because we've employed Paul Ince as boss?

Most decisions in life can go both ways. No-one know how things are going to turn out. However to be critical of Rovers and the manager before the team have even kicked a ball is ridiculous. If we're struggling badly come Christmas then I could understand it but the guy hasn't even taken charge yet. I think it's time to re-assess our position and look at things in a more positive light.

Rovers have had 40+ candidates interested in the job. From these candidates they feel that Paul Ince is the best man available who wanted the job. People can look at CV's on wikipedia all they want but the fact is we are not privy to the interviews and discussions held by Rovers and the candidates. We don't know if Laudrup wanted a £50mill transfer kitty or a clause to speak to any club who comes in for him in the future. We don't know if Allardyce said his first transfer target would be Kevin Davies. The only thing we know for sure is that JW and the club believe that of everyone they spoke to Paul Ince is the best man they could get to manage the club in it's current situation.

So what has Ince done to deserve this chance I hear some cry. Well firstly he must have made a damn good impression in his interviews with his ideas and general self-presentation. Secondly we know he can manage a football team. Yes it's at a lower level but he's still go an impressive record. He saved Macclesfield from what looked an inevitable drop after they trailed the rest of the whole of the football league by 7 points. He then won the third division title with MK Dons amassing 97 points and losing only 7 league games all season. During this season they won the Football League Trophy, along the way knocking out clear Divsion One league winners Swansea over 2 legs. Now although Ince's career is relatively short, if you think about it it's obvious that he can organise a team and also inspire a team to perform. I'd rather have a manager who has shown what he has shown so far, than one who has done nothing but has a certificate from some FA coaching course.

Ah, but can he manager big name players and command respect. I don't know. However when people like Hughes, Klinsmann and Van Basten started their managerial careers we didn't know then either. What we do know is that Ince was a very good player and a winner. He played for Manchester United, Inter Milan and Liverpool. He won league titles, FA Cups and European competitions. He played over 50 times for England including several as captain. He's had a career better than most players that Rovers have, or are ever likely to have, under his tenure. People question his arrogance as a negative. This may be so but it's not reared it's head in any news stories that I'm aware of so far in his managerial career. It's possible that the boy from Ilford has grown up and matured. The comments about Rovers being a 'two bob club' many years ago are regrettable but people say and do stupid things in life. It's hardly disparaging enough to hold against him.

You look at the farce that occurs at clubs like Newcastle and Man City and sometimes you really do appreciate the fact that for whatever reason we support Rovers. They are, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future, a proper club. Several people knock JW and the 'board but it's no coincidence that Graeme Souness and Mark Hughes both said he was superb to work with. This week we have had Laudrups agent saying the JW was the best chairman he's ever dealt with. If that sounds rather cynical, the words of MK Dons chairman Pete Winkleman do not. Speaking on Sky after losing his manager to another club, he praised the way that Rovers have been completely above board and have behaved perfectly. Our club is currently run by intelligent people who have it's best interests at heart. As mentioned earlier if they think that Ince is the best man, and they know far, far more about the ins and outs of the candidates than we ever will, then that should be some reassurance for us.

The vast majority of us know what BRFC is about. We know that we are probably punching above our weight. We know that for us to have a bad season or two and drop down a league could signal an end to our dining at the top table. Ultimately we know that our best players will probably move on unless they're at the end of their careers. Bentley was going when Hughes was still here. If Santa goes too thats probably not down to a change of manager. if Ince is a success then he'll be off to. That will always be an issue now for Rovers and we'll have to live with that when the time comes. As long as he does it with a bit of class and decency (all eyes turn to Mr Bentley) then we can't grumble. Long term I hope Ince goes on the become the next English national manager. That we we know he'll have done a great job for our club.

So come on everyone. Stop whinging about who we could have had and look forward. Around Christmas myself, Rev and others were telling people to stop 'burying their head in the sand' as Rovers stumbled from one mediocre performance to the next but miraculously picked up results . The football wasn't great. Ince is known to play 'high-tempo attacking football'. We'll hopefully have a few new players in come mid-August. A new era is starting at Ewood. The last two eras have resulted generally in great times and success. There's no way of knowing if this one will. However as fans we need to ensure that Ince and the team are given the full support of everyone who claims to be a fan of Rovers. That we we can all strive to shove the words of Darren Lewis and the other southern based journalists right up their backsides.

holy ###### how long did it tke u to write tht, i guess u probably knew ince was our manager a couple of hours before we all did. good post never the less

[neophox]

I'll support Ince 100%! Come on Rovers!

[Paul Mellelieu]

Personally I don't give a flying one what colour a player or manager is, I just want the best for the club in ability, demeanour, and as a figurehead and this guy is not that. I'm will say that I am NOT colour prejudiced at all.... but it's bloody obvious that Paul Mellelieu is!

Not then Golfer Gordon, explain that last line to me; slowly please.

[PAFELL]

I know I've posted it on the other thread but I'm going to stick this in here too as everyone seems to just be on here.

THE WAITING IS OVER - TIME TO THINK POSITIVE - TIME TO BELIEVE

Right. Personally Ince wasn't my top choice. Not in my top 3 to be honest. Most people have accepted this announcement fairly rationally. However some of the comments made by a handful supporters on here are downright laughable. You'd think we'd employed someone with a track record for failure or a suspected mass murderer judging by one or two reactions. Are people really advocating not going down to Ewood just because we've employed Paul Ince as boss?

Most decisions in life can go both ways. No-one know how things are going to turn out. However to be critical of Rovers and the manager before the team have even kicked a ball is ridiculous. If we're struggling badly come Christmas then I could understand it but the guy hasn't even taken charge yet. I think it's time to re-assess our position and look at things in a more positive light.

Rovers have had 40+ candidates interested in the job. From these candidates they feel that Paul Ince is the best man available who wanted the job. People can look at CV's on wikipedia all they want but the fact is we are not privy to the interviews and discussions held by Rovers and the candidates. We don't know if Laudrup wanted a £50mill transfer kitty or a clause to speak to any club who comes in for him in the future. We don't know if Allardyce said his first transfer target would be Kevin Davies. The only thing we know for sure is that JW and the club believe that of everyone they spoke to Paul Ince is the best man they could get to manage the club in it's current situation.

So what has Ince done to deserve this chance I hear some cry. Well firstly he must have made a damn good impression in his interviews with his ideas and general self-presentation. Secondly we know he can manage a football team. Yes it's at a lower level but he's still go an impressive record. He saved Macclesfield from what looked an inevitable drop after they trailed the rest of the whole of the football league by 7 points. He then won the third division title with MK Dons amassing 97 points and losing only 7 league games all season. During this season they won the Football League Trophy, along the way knocking out clear Divsion One league winners Swansea over 2 legs. Now although Ince's career is relatively short, if you think about it it's obvious that he can organise a team and also inspire a team to perform. I'd rather have a manager who has shown what he has shown so far, than one who has done nothing but has a certificate from some FA coaching course.

Ah, but can he manager big name players and command respect. I don't know. However when people like Hughes, Klinsmann and Van Basten started their managerial careers we didn't know then either. What we do know is that Ince was a very good player and a winner. He played for Manchester United, Inter Milan and Liverpool. He won league titles, FA Cups and European competitions. He played over 50 times for England including several as captain. He's had a career better than most players that Rovers have, or are ever likely to have, under his tenure. People question his arrogance as a negative. This may be so but it's not reared it's head in any news stories that I'm aware of so far in his managerial career. It's possible that the boy from Ilford has grown up and matured. The comments about Rovers being a 'two bob club' many years ago are regrettable but people say and do stupid things in life. It's hardly disparaging enough to hold against him.

You look at the farce that occurs at clubs like Newcastle and Man City and sometimes you really do appreciate the fact that for whatever reason we support Rovers. They are, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future, a proper club. Several people knock JW and the 'board but it's no coincidence that Graeme Souness and Mark Hughes both said he was superb to work with. This week we have had Laudrups agent saying the JW was the best chairman he's ever dealt with. If that sounds rather cynical, the words of MK Dons chairman Pete Winkleman do not. Speaking on Sky after losing his manager to another club, he praised the way that Rovers have been completely above board and have behaved perfectly. Our club is currently run by intelligent people who have it's best interests at heart. As mentioned earlier if they think that Ince is the best man, and they know far, far more about the ins and outs of the candidates than we ever will, then that should be some reassurance for us.

The vast majority of us know what BRFC is about. We know that we are probably punching above our weight. We know that for us to have a bad season or two and drop down a league could signal an end to our dining at the top table. Ultimately we know that our best players will probably move on unless they're at the end of their careers. Bentley was going when Hughes was still here. If Santa goes too thats probably not down to a change of manager. if Ince is a success then he'll be off to. That will always be an issue now for Rovers and we'll have to live with that when the time comes. As long as he does it with a bit of class and decency (all eyes turn to Mr Bentley) then we can't grumble. Long term I hope Ince goes on the become the next English national manager. That we we know he'll have done a great job for our club.

So come on everyone. Stop whinging about who we could have had and look forward. Around Christmas myself, Rev and others were telling people to stop 'burying their head in the sand' as Rovers stumbled from one mediocre performance to the next but miraculously picked up results . The football wasn't great. Ince is known to play 'high-tempo attacking football'. We'll hopefully have a few new players in come mid-August. A new era is starting at Ewood. The last two eras have resulted generally in great times and success. There's no way of knowing if this one will. However as fans we need to ensure that Ince and the team are given the full support of everyone who claims to be a fan of Rovers. That we we can all strive to shove the words of Darren Lewis and the other southern based journalists right up their backsides.

Every Rovers supporter should agree with what you have posted. Give Ince the chance - at least he has the bottle to try - Shearer did not. Yes the going for awhile may be a bit rough. It will take Ince awhile to learn how to manage Rovers in the Premiership. Ironically this is the second manager Rovers have given a first start - that in my view takes courage from JW and the board. They have seen, heard something in Paul Ince that they like - therefore we should back the appointment of Paul Ince. If he is able encourage the likes of Bentley and RSC to stay with Rovers, all the better. Maybe his first test as manager of Rovers.

[ABBEY]

[ That we we can all strive to shove the words of Darren Lewis and the other southern based journalists right up their backsides.

what a foooking nobehead.................weve won more than a lot of these big clubs since 94 than this @#/? thinks.city,villa newcastle...oh liverpool when did they last win the league...lewis your a ######

[thenodrog]

Not then Golfer Gordon, explain that last line to me; slowly please.

Nope, no need to paul. Most on here will know what I am alluding to, and I care little whether you do or not.