[Archived] Do You Approve Of The New Manager?

[AndyR]

Desperately worried about what's going on at Rovers.

Hughes goes with apparently, very little attempt to keep him. Takes every other paid employee with him.

JW says he's loathe to allow our best players leave to strengthen our nearest challengers for the UEFA cup, - then let's them go.

Ince not having seen the squad, apparently allows players like bentley and Friedel leave, when he didn't have to. We're allowing Friedel to go and are replacing him with an insuperior goalkeeper - and we're paying a million pounds to do it. All he had to do was tell JW to keep the squad together, as Hughes did at the end of last season and none of this would be happening. Ince doesn't have a meaningful word to say to the fans since his appointment.

Very, very ominous signs.

Absolute bobbins, When did Bentley go? He hasn't gone yet and if he does we get over £15m as a result. Freidal being replaced for an extra million - you would rather than pay him an extra £5m to keep him for 3 years?? So Robinson in for next to nothing or pay an ageing keeper £2m a year? We had to replace him sooner or later so why not now, there is no way Brad Friedal (and I am a huge fan) will get any better between now and the end of this career. Rovers have had a very good record of getting the best out of a players career and I for one think this is another prime example.

If Ince had sold Robinson and replaced him with Friedal I could understand this reaction but please show some sanity.

There is a saying that the people with least to say usually say it the loudest and in Inces case until he has time to survey the squad why would he be shouting his mouth off? Would you sooner he was boasting about making the Champions League setting himself up for a fall?

Hughes wanted out, and so has gone and I suspect he already found out the grass isn't always greener.

[den]

Absolute bobbins, When did Bentley go? He hasn't gone yet and if he does we get over £15m as a result.

First line is wrong. I said "apparently".

Tell me how we get £15M, when there's "apparently" a sell on clause?

[thenodrog]

Theno - you the devastated one?

Desperately worried about what's going on at Rovers.

Hughes goes with apparently, very little attempt to keep him. Takes every other paid employee with him.

JW says he's loathe to allow our best players leave to strengthen our nearest challengers for the UEFA cup, - then let's them go.

Ince not having seen the squad, apparently allows players like bentley and Friedel leave, when he didn't have to. We're allowing Friedel to go and are replacing him with an insuperior goalkeeper - and we're paying a million pounds to do it. All he had to do was tell JW to keep the squad together, as Hughes did at the end of last season and none of this would be happening. Ince doesn't have a meaningful word to say to the fans since his appointment.

Very, very ominous signs.

Sounds like you are devastated too now Den! You appear to have come around to sharing my opinion..... What took you so long?

btw just like you keep re-freshing nicko's thread I DARE YOU to re run this POLL now.

On second thoughts wait until mid Oct and then we can have an "Allardyce or Ince" one....that'll be good! But make sure it's done before somebody else employs him!

btw AndyR.... It speaks volumes that every dingle / nobender I come across is taking the p1ss out of us whilst every pigs foot that i speak to would have Sam back in the blink of an eye!

[den]

So Robinson in for next to nothing or pay an ageing keeper £2m a year? We had to replace him sooner or later so why not now,

Because Robinson isn't fit to lace Friedels boots. I'll wager Robinson makes more howlers next season than Friedel. That's the way it's been for a long time now and I can't see it changing.

Ince didn't have to do this deal.

Sounds like you are devastated too now Den! You appear to have come around to sharing my opinion..... What took you so long?

My first comments when Ince was confirmed was "oh noooooooooo". Just haven't kept going on about it.

[thenodrog]

Because Robinson isn't fit to lace Friedels boots. I'll wager Robinson makes more howlers next season than Friedel. That's the way it's been for a long time now and I can't see it changing.

Ince didn't have to do this deal.

I don't know whether it was Ince's instigation. I think from the smoke signals we can probably assume that Friedel neither wanted to work or to be associated with Paul Ince.

[den]

I don't know whether it was Ince's instigation. I think from the smoke signals we can probably assume that Friedel neither wanted to work or to be associated with Paul Ince.

Ince's choice, whichever way you look at it. It's his decision.

[LeChuck]

I'll wager Robinson makes more howlers next season than Friedel.

Very possible. But I'll wager Robinson comes for more crosses, rushes out of his area more and doesn't take up odd positioning on free-kicks.

Actually I believe Friedel would be the better keeper next season...but it's not just next season we're looking at. The season after that I'm 100% positive Robinson will be the better keeper, I just can't see Friedel going in to his 39th birthday because it so rarely happens at the top level.

We might have to take one step backward next year in terms of goalkeeping quality, but in the long term it's at least two steps forward because replacing Brad with someone adequate would have been a major, major headache...and I sincerely believe we (nearly) have the best man we could have possibly got.

[baxendenblue]

What a waste of time. I always thought we were a loyal bunch of supporters and would get behind anyone who represented our club. I cannot believe the crap that Ince is taking - Hughes walked away from us and not only that he would have walked before yet we still worship him. Brad, legend that he is, is walking out on us for a pay rise and a 3 year deal not of it Ince's fault. Brad could have said thanks but no thanks but he didnt. As for Robinson he is one of the best keepers in the league unfortunatley he has made some errors - dont tell me no other keeper has not made errors - how many goals did Brad cost us against Brum and others last year.

Come on stop the moaning and get behind the boys whoever they are because one thing is for sure they will have our shirts on !

[den]

Very possible. But I'll wager Robinson comes for more crosses, rushes out of his area more and doesn't take up odd positioning on free-kicks.

Actually I believe Friedel would be the better keeper next season...but it's not just next season we're looking at. The season after that I'm 100% positive Robinson will be the better keeper, I just can't see Friedel going in to his 39th birthday because it so rarely happens at the top level.

We might have to take one step backward next year in terms of goalkeeping quality, but in the long term it's at least two steps forward because replacing Brad with someone adequate would have been a major, major headache...and I sincerely believe we have (nearly) the best man we could have possibly got.

Should have kept Brad for 2/3 more years, then who knows - we might have found someone a darned site more reliable than Robinson.

There was no need for Ince to sell him. He needs time to assess his squad, not get rid of anyone who kicks up a fuss. I feel another roy Hodgson situation. He sold everyone who asked for a move.

Brad, legend that he is, is walking out on us for a pay rise and a 3 year deal not of it Ince's fault.

Of course it's Ince's fault. The decision is entirely his.

[baxendenblue]

Should have kept Brad for 2/3 more years, then who knows - we might have found someone a darned site more reliable than Robinson.

There was no need for Ince to sell him. He needs time to assess his squad, not get rid of anyone who kicks up a fuss. I feel another roy Hodgson situation. He sold everyone who asked for a move.

Of course it's Ince's fault. The decision is entirely his.

Don't be so naive if after the service he has given Rovers do you think it would be right to stand in his way. As I said if Brad loved Rovers so much he could have said thanks but no thanks! that sentiment won't change it is Brads choice to go I am sure Ince would be extremely happy to have Brad between the nets but it is not to be.

[LeChuck]

Should have kept Brad for 2/3 more years, then who knows - we might have found someone a darned site more reliable than Robinson.

It would have been an amazingly big ask to expect him to go on for another 2 or 3 years, name another top goalkeeper who managed to go on for that long (recently)...even Schmiechel and Seaman and been reduced to mid-table squad players at that age, it would be a bit naive to believe Brad could keep going on for that long.

And also...if we had kept him for 2/3 years, then he would have been worthless, and we would have had to take funds which could have been used for elsewhere to replace him. This way, we've had to do it a year earlier than we would like, but we're getting £2.5 million for doing so. I find it a little bit hard to believe we'd find someone better than a 28 year old with 41 England caps for £3.5 million in the future as well...I honestly believe this is a fantastic long term deal for Rovers.

[thenodrog]

Ince's choice, whichever way you look at it. It's his decision.

Dunno if this is accurate but if it is then the decision to leave must have come from BF.

http://www.eatsleepsport.com/blackburn-rov...ers-757362.html

[speeeeeeedie]

btw AndyR.... It speaks volumes that every dingle / nobender I come across is taking the p1ss out of us whilst every pigs foot that i speak to would have Sam back in the blink of an eye!

That counts for loads. A couple of fans taking the mick. Tell that one to a jury. Did you have Gallup help you with your intensive polling?

Hughes wanted to go at Christmas, Friedel wants a bumper pay day, Bentley has delusions that Spurs will be Champs league material. How is all this Ince's fault?

If we are sh!te this season we'll have a right to moan, let's wait and see eh?

[AndyR]

First line is wrong. I said "apparently".

Tell me how we get £15M, when there's "apparently" a sell on clause?

Maybe i read the past tense then in the didn't have to do this comment, either way the transfer fee will be £15m+ and we will clear £10m minimum.

btw AndyR.... It speaks volumes that every dingle / nobender I come across is taking the p1ss out of us whilst every pigs foot that i speak to would have Sam back in the blink of an eye!

And you listen to these idiots??? Just laugh at them I do, the dingles know nothing, the nearest PNE will get to the Prem is Matt Jansens header and Bolton moaned about the football when they had BFS and now regret getting rid - que sera!

Very possible. But I'll wager Robinson comes for more crosses, rushes out of his area more and doesn't take up odd positioning on free-kicks.

Actually I believe Friedel would be the better keeper next season...but it's not just next season we're looking at. The season after that I'm 100% positive Robinson will be the better keeper, I just can't see Friedel going in to his 39th birthday because it so rarely happens at the top level.

We might have to take one step backward next year in terms of goalkeeping quality, but in the long term it's at least two steps forward because replacing Brad with someone adequate would have been a major, major headache...and I sincerely believe we (nearly) have the best man we could have possibly got.

Robinson isn't as bad as the red top rags would have you believe and will be a good keeper for us. When Bobby Mimms left Spurs in similar circumstances. The "Booby" tag being his press adopted nickname at the time he became a superb keeper for us for a number of years, something I am confident will happen to Robinson as well.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Robinson isn't as bad as the red top rags would have you believe and will be a good keeper for us.

Been watching him since his Leeds days and have never been impressed. The England caps thing is rubbish, James was in an incredibly bad patch and there was no one else who could challenge Robinson for that spot. He was the best of a very bad bunch at the time.

What's done is done, but i believe we are taking on a clearly inferior keeper than the one we are going to lose. I would of personally looked abroad as i believe there are better keepers out there for a similar or cheaper price.

[Majiball]

Very possible. But I'll wager Robinson comes for more crosses, rushes out of his area more and doesn't take up odd positioning on free-kicks.

Actually I believe Friedel would be the better keeper next season...but it's not just next season we're looking at. The season after that I'm 100% positive Robinson will be the better keeper, I just can't see Friedel going in to his 39th birthday because it so rarely happens at the top level.

We might have to take one step backward next year in terms of goalkeeping quality, but in the long term it's at least two steps forward because replacing Brad with someone adequate would have been a major, major headache...and I sincerely believe we (nearly) have the best man we could have possibly got.

If he gets back to his best, If he re-gains his confidence, If he starts well, If he gets himself in shape, With Brad we know what we have dependable reliable brillant at times!! Robbo is a good signing but Brad should never have been allowed to go!

Don't be so naive if after the service he has given Rovers do you think it would be right to stand in his way. As I said if Brad loved Rovers so much he could have said thanks but no thanks! that sentiment won't change it is Brads choice to go I am sure Ince would be extremely happy to have Brad between the nets but it is not to be.

Ok the second Ince heard about Villa's interest, he should have gone to brad said your the best in the league we can't pay you 50K heres 40K (he's worth it) with an option for a 3rd year with stipulations. Instead from what we've read I think its safe to assume Ince went thats not bad for a 37year old, I need to think about it. If I was Brad I would have walked too, he would just have gone from being first name on the team sheet to being replaceable, time to jump ship!! All the best Brad, you will be sorely missed!

[Drakefyre]

Umm, we did offer Brad an improved contract, but not at the Villa level.

[RevidgeBlue]

I thought by now most people had come round to the idea that swopping a 37 year old for a 28 year old England international was a great long term move.

The criticism Ince is getting over the last page or so is ridiculous, the Brad situation isn't even of our making. And, sentiment firmly to one side, it's a good move for us. If Hughes had sold Friedel I bet tnr would say he was doing the right thing!

The same people slaughtering Ince before a ball has been kicked are the same ones who were opposed to his appointment, it's getting very tedious.

If we're bottom of the league after ten games, by all means complain then, and I may well be at the front of the queue but it's ridiculous to carry on like this before a ball's kicked.

By the same token I hope the anti Incers will be big enough to hold their hands up if he's a huge success.

[den]

The criticism Ince is getting over the last page or so is ridiculous,

As usual Rev, what's a simple statement that someone's worried by the goings on and think that Ince should have made it clear that no-one was leaving until he's had time to weigh up the squad that he had inherited, is changed into alleagtions that Ince is being slaughtered.

That wasn't the point. Goodness, people have a right to say that they are concerned.

Bet there are more people concerned, than not.

[RibbleValleyRover]

I thought by now most people had come round to the idea that swopping a 37 year old for a 28 year old England international was a great long term move.

Maybe if we were getting a keeper who is better than Brad or at a similar level there wouldn't be such a backlash.

I'm far more concerned in the short term, this season coming than years down the line. With an inexperienced manager, possible sales of our best players and teams of a similar stature spending more money, our short term future is far from certain.

By the same token I hope the anti Incers will be big enough to hold their hands up if he's a huge success.

If i'm wrong i will.

[John]

Lets hope it is a case of this....

“Stick two fingers up at the people who questioned my sanity and my abilities”

[islander200]

Im delighted with ince as manager the critiscism he is recieving from some people is ridiculous a ball has yet to bt kicked for gods sake.He has been put in at the deep end,its not his fault thet brad and bentley want out-he is a young and hungry manager and i hope he leaves all ye doubters with egg on your face

robinson has signed,breaking news on ssn

[blue phil]

Maybe if we were getting a keeper who is better than Brad or at a similar level there wouldn't be such a backlash.

Such as who ? Peter Czech comes into that category but he might be a bit costly .

The Robinson deal is a good one . Let's not write him off as quick as some have written Ince off..........

[thenodrog]

1. The criticism Ince is getting over the last page or so is ridiculous, the Brad situation isn't even of our making. And, sentiment firmly to one side, it's a good move for us. If Hughes had sold Friedel I bet tnr would say he was doing the right thing!

By the same token I hope the anti Incers will be big enough to hold their hands up if he's a huge success.

1. It is our making. BF is err was contracted to us until 2010. Do you not rem just a few days ago that JW said that Paul Ince wanted to start the season with Brad Friedel in goal? Starting his managerial tenure with a downright lie is not good PR in my book.

2. I'll certainly hold my hand up if he is a huge success. Put another way Simon the only direction Paul Ince can move in my estimation is up.

btw We are led to believe that Hughes is trying desperately to sign Friedel so personally I do think that he is still doing the right things.

[S15]

I think after you were so monumentally old about our last manager you should keep hush hush for a while.