[Archived] Nicko's Thread

[Fylde Coast Fan]

Wouldn't that be better than straight cash, considering Arsenal's supposed percentage of sell on fee? I guess it all depends on if we really rate Robinson as our best option. I'd rather have him than Green to be honest on the basis that Green has had one decent season, whereas Robinson has had many more. But that's not to say Green won't overtake Robinson as the better future goalie.

The trouble with a cash plus player deal is that the value of Robinson becomes a factor. We would argue that Bentley sold for £13.5m because we big £3.5m for Robinson. Arsenal would have a strong case in saying "Spurs valued Robinson at £6m so the Bentley deal was worth £16m total", because Spurs did state more than once they wanted £6m for him. If we took £10m plus Robinson we would end up paying Arsenal £6.5m (16-3 divided by 2), so we only have £3.5m to spend on a replacement for Bentley.

[Zulu]

A couple of you guys mentioned Al Habsi from Bolton and some of you dismissed the notion. Let me tell you this guy is a very good keeper. He may not be too happy about the new four-year deal that Jaaskelainen has just signed.

I hope he doesn't go up the Devil's road because I believe that any Premier League club needs two quality keepers and we have them in Jaaskelainen and Al Habsi. I do rate Friedel and he will be difficult to replace. I rate Al Habsi to be comparable to Robinson today - and he's a lot younger too. Someone will have a big job restoring Robinson's confidence wherever he goes after Spuds.

[Hughesy]

Best way is Bentley goes for £14m, we pay £500k for Robinson in seperate deal. Same profit of £13.5m on bentley, only difference is Arsenal only get a cut of £11m (14-3) rather than £14m.

Im sure Tottenham would be happy to screw Arsenal over too!

Nicko - Thanks as always.

Do you think its likely that Spurs will offer for Bentley before they look at Arshavin? Just a horrible thought they may try to drag our deal out and complete that one first?

[hawkiiz]

Best way is Bentley goes for £14m, we pay £500k for Robinson in seperate deal. Same profit of £13.5m on bentley, only difference is Arsenal only get a cut of £11m (14-3) rather than £14m.

Im sure Tottenham would be happy to screw Arsenal over too!

dont think thats legal. thats fixing the price. if a regular company did this they would get smacked really hard by the state. i guess the same applies to FC's? or maybe not.... haha

just hope this whole drama ends before Chinese Democracy is released

[orwot]

Just because it deserves to be noticed by all;

It's all going downhill for Hughesy now... first his boss might be getting jailed, leaving him with no funds...

now he's soo far down the ropes he's appearing on Jeremy Kyle!

Should have stayed at Rovers!

LMAO!!! alomst cryin' when that loaded; with a bit more of a welsh twinge on his accent, that could be hughesy in 10 years no prob.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

It'd save us money if we got Robinson in the deal by my reckoning. Say there was a 10% clause and assume Robinson is worth 4 million.

We get Robinson and 14 million - Le Arse get 1.4 million - we end up with Robinson and 12.6 million.

We sell Bentley 18 million - Buy Robinson say 4 million, plus 1.8 million for Arse - we end up with Robinson and 12.2 million.

[Fylde Coast Fan]

It'd save us money if we got Robinson in the deal by my reckoning. Say there was a 10% clause and assume Robinson is worth 4 million.

We get Robinson and 14 million - Le Arse get 1.4 million - we end up with Robinson and 12.6 million.

We sell Bentley 18 million - Buy Robinson say 4 million, plus 1.8 million for Arse - we end up with Robinson and 12.2 million.

We have to pay Arsenal on the value of the transfer, not the amount of cash received. Doesn't matter if we take £18m worth of jelly babies, Zimbabwean dollars or any ratio of player plus cash - Wenger gets the same.

The club want to do it as an all cash deal because it removes the uncertainty and room for argument from the issue - whatever we declare as Robinson's value in the transfer will be taken by Arsenal to be an attempt to fiddle them out of their fair share. We'd do exactly the same in their situation.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Ah, turd.

It's times like these you kinda wish you had BFS and his brown paper bags lying around...

EDIT: It changes bullocks to "Very Good".

Odd.

[orwot]

just hope this whole drama ends before Chinese Democracy is released

before eternity? possibly...

10% sell on fee? try closer to 50...

[BuckyRover]

I don't believe it is 50%

[Hughesy]

A couple of you guys mentioned Al Habsi from Bolton and some of you dismissed the notion. Let me tell you this guy is a very good keeper.

I rate Al Habsi to be comparable to Robinson today - and he's a lot younger too. Someone will have a big job restoring Robinson's confidence wherever he goes after Spuds.

Al Habsi has alot of promise for the future but I wouldnt say he is in that top bracket of prem league keepers yet. Robinson on form is!

Id much prefer us to go with an experienced prem keeper like him over your 2nc choice.

I don't believe it is 50%

Me neither mate

[rog of the rovers]

no update tonight?

[rebelmswar]

I don't believe it is 50%

I can not see that getting by the board to be honest. I had Williams down for better than that.

I feel 25-35% might be the real figure.

[Rover down South]

I don't believe it is 50%

I read last week on an Arsenal forum that it is 20-25%. I'm not saying Nicko is wrong, but that is what read.

[Mc Love]

no update tonight?

You are joking, right?

[Hughesy]

Try checking back to 10pm

[rog of the rovers]

ahh sorry! Looking for posts around 11pm.

I do apologise.

[67splitscreen]

It is in black and white so to say.

Weather is gospel, Who knows.

http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=508122

[EwoodGlory]

Is it true that Rangers are set to sign Davis from Fulham, in the very near future, after Fulham dropped the asking price?

Relevant to Rovers, as we have been linked with him recently.

[Hughesy]

Lifted from here or something in it?

Robinson to Rovers

[Paulsman]

When you say that the WARNOCK thing is still live, does that mean Blackburn haven't rejected Newcastles bid.

[roverfanuk]

At this rate, Ince is going to sell more players in the space of 2 months then Hughes purchased in his whole stay at the club...

One thing i liked about Hughes was he didnt chop and change the squad in bulk, which i think kept it settled and made it able to know each and every player. Granted for the likes of Friedel and Bentley, i don't really think Ince has a choice!

At this rate, were going to start the season with half a new squad if not more. They are going to be playing each other not knowing what to expect.

It's very worrying...

To the best of our abilities, this is what seems most likely at the moment:

Ins - Segundo Castillo, Carlos Villanueva, Robbie Fowler, Paul Robinson, Keith Andrews and Ricardo Osorio.

Outs (including frees) - Bentley, Berner, Henchoz, Encks, Friedel, (possibly) Warnock, (possibly) Santa Cruz

It seems rather sad that we have all forgotten about cutting loose our lesser players, ie, Mokoena, Gally, Rigters and building on what we have got (better players), and now we are worrying about loosing the better players.

If it continues in this fashion, i don't see how clubs which are financed such as ours will ever be able to stay in the top 10 and achieve European football. Something which is related to young England players coming through, ie, kids playing football on the roadside in a small Lancs town. It's all about who can poach young up and coming Spanish/French/Portugese players now for hard cash.

Their is no doubting that if we dont pull of a couple of very good transfers, it will have been a poor window for us.

We need to replace Bentley like for like, that in my opinion is certain. We also need to bring in a couple of proven Premier League quality players.

Im all in favour of going for the Segundo's and Carlos's of this world, but we need a couple of proven Premier League players too. It's way too risky without!

[tcj_jones]

Roverfankuk, we have agreed a fee with Villa for Friedel. I'd say he's as good as out the door.

[Drakefyre]

Apparently Stoke want Mokoena, and there have been no bids for Santa Cruz. No accepted bids for Bentley or Warnock either. I doubt Warnock will leave - this is what happens every summer. Our best players are linked elsewhere and usually end up staying. We still have Pedersen, Reid, Nelsen, and Benni, remember? Relax.

[LeChuck]

The Warnock thing doesn't seem to want to go away...but I'm positive he'll stay. Newcastle already have a very able left back in Jose Enrique, I can't see them pursuing it for very long.