roverfanuk Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 I think he's been very good this season. He has been massively let down by our defence!
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modes98 Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 He was 'dumped' because he hit bad form, like most other keepers have including his replacement. However he has shown he has the ability to be a top keeper and will only get better as the years go on. He hasn't yet hit the peak age for a keepers career.
joey_big_nose Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Its looking like that may well be the case, dont want to lose Santa but if thats what it needs then so be it though I think Roberts/MaCarthy should also be thrown into the transfer mix. You'd think that if the club are smart they can pull in some cash when recruiting without doing too much damage to their debt levels. I don't think it is realistic for us to sell three first team strikers! Two is a possibility. If Santa does go we need to get someone with pace in to run the channels. If we can do that then I think we may be able to rehabilitate McCarthy. If we can get in a big guy (Ince was looking at one I think) as well that will give us a lot more variety. If BFS turns up at Ewood I am sure a centre forward bruiser will be on the cards!
Jonnolad Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 I'm slowly coming round to thinking that Robinson just isn't good enough for us. Yes the defence has been sadly lacking for the majority, but there are other times when I just think Brad would have saved that - Liverpool's first goal on Sat was one such time, and Chelsea's first goal the other week - and there are others. I personally think it's time Brown or even Bunn are given a run. Robinson has not proved good enough to be a guaranteed starter every week IMO - not by a long chalk.
Al Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 I'm slowly coming round to thinking that Robinson just isn't good enough for us. Yes the defence has been sadly lacking for the majority, but there are other times when I just think Brad would have saved that - Liverpool's first goal on Sat was one such time, and Chelsea's first goal the other week - and there are others. I personally think it's time Brown or even Bunn are given a run. Robinson has not proved good enough to be a guaranteed starter every week IMO - not by a long chalk. THat's just rubbish. Robbo has done all that could be expected of him. Brad would have saved that would he? I'd have said that Robinson would have saved 3 goals against Birmingham last season. We have enough problems in the current team without you and Mr E inventing ones that don't exist!
Manc Rover Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Interesting to note that two of Liverpool goals came from a central midfielder trying to pass to our forward (Cruz) in the opponents half, the pass never connected Rovers lost possesion and more importantly the centre of midfield was completely caught out allowing the opposition to run at our goal with unbelievable ease. For me all three players involved were culpable Tugay, Cruz and Andrews. We need two new proven central midfileders and a forward to replace these three above as they should all go. We have 2 proven centre midfielders to come in but they are injured - Dunn and Grella!
Majiball Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Was you not there at the game imy9, Cruz looked like a man definitely going through the motions not trying too hard you had to see it to believe it he wasnt very good. Cruz has been one of my favourites but that performance left a lot doubts in my mind over his committment to Blackburn Rovers very disappointing. Gotta say I agree, Roversmum is right he is no longer with us. He maybe carrying an injury but how many other footballers play with pain, god take a pill. RSC has been going through the motions for a while, I would too if all I got all days where balls lumped in the air to me. Due to the cost of sacking and replacing I will not be surprised at all if he goes to fund the new managers wish list. IMO we need the following, A HOLDING PLAYER Right back, Right winger, Striker and thats the minim. If RSC has to be sacrificed to fund our new players so be it. 15M plus Johnson will do me fine. Oh and by the way if its true Wenger is willing to loan Vela in January then its time to remind him how much dollar we made him with Bentley and secure his signature. That lad can finish, him and Benni could work.
Jonnolad Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 THat's just rubbish. Robbo has done all that could be expected of him. Brad would have saved that would he? I'd have said that Robinson would have saved 3 goals against Birmingham last season. We have enough problems in the current team without you and Mr E inventing ones that don't exist! 31 league goals against us (easily the worst in the division) so early in the season speaks volumes. Yes the defence is poor at times, but any goal keeper who has allowed that many goals past him cannot be above criticism and I just don't think he is good enough for us at this present time.
The Prof. Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 what a pathetic topic. robinson has been great for us this season and on many occasions has kept us in matches. his name is within Englands calling and he is 10 times the shot stopper everyone saw at spurs. the whole team is down with confidence at the moment and nitpicking players like this is only going to compound the situation. get behind and cheer loud I can debate anything that might help our club. This is what I don't understand. You aren't even allowed to debate him according to some on here. He's either a god and loved because he's great or technically useless (I'm in the latter camp and havn't seen him do anything to help the defence). It just goes deathly quiet everytime a ball is punted high into the box. As a defender I'd be nervous with him behind me. Even if he can't catch he could shout. This keeper will take us down. If Souness comes expect a very quick change.
Anti-Dingle-Brigade Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Really? I've always thought shots on target and goals were not counted as one and the same. Like headers. I'm pretty sure they had more than 3 since Robinson saved two shots that were definitely going in (the one where Benayoun had an open goal for one)
LeChuck Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 there are other times when I just think Brad would have saved that You can't have seem much of Friedel this season then. Robinson has just run in to the unfortunate problem that would have happened to whoever came in the summer - they'll never, ever be as good as Brad was. Robinson is still a great goalkeeper for us, a few scorelines this season would have looked for worse if it wasn't for him.
Jonnolad Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Really? I've always thought shots on target and goals were not counted as one and the same. Like headers. I'm pretty sure they had more than 3 since Robinson saved two shots that were definitely going in (the one where Benayoun had an open goal for one) Shots on target are usually counted with goals, however hands up I went off something I read rather than something else (teach me to do that). It wasn't 3 on target 3 goals so jib that.
Jonnolad Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 You can't have seem much of Friedel this season then. Robinson has just run in to the unfortunate problem that would have happened to whoever came in the summer - they'll never, ever be as good as Brad was. Robinson is still a great goalkeeper for us, a few scorelines this season would have looked for worse if it wasn't for him. Are you seriously suggesting that if it wasn't for Robinson there would have been more than the already ridiculous 31 goals scored against us this season? How many do you think it would have been without him - 40 goals? I think we need to start being realistic and say that Robinson as well as our defence is to blame for easily the worst defensive record in the league. Incidentally I always thought sooner rather than later we'd need to change Brad, and I thought Robinson was the right choice - however I don't think that's the case any more.
Anti-Dingle-Brigade Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 Ince has brought in 2 keepers and it might well be the case that Bunn, the player who nobody really cared about could prove to be the best deal he did if he continues to improve.
roverfanuk Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Top 10 best Premier League keepers http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...icle1984297.ece Paul Robinson is apparently not in the top 10 Premier League goalkeepers. Brad is of course!
waggy Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 it's time for jason brown,robbo never seems to save anything these days
donis1410 Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 WHAT!!!!!!!!!!! In my opinion Robbo has probably been our best player this season, I know we have coneded a lot of goals however, I would say it is down to the team performances and not our goalkeeper!!!
Bobby G Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Id agree that Brad wouldve saved a few of the goals we have conceded and I dont think there have been many saves Robbo has done which Brad wouldnt have gotten to either.
Atty Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Agree it could be a lot worse had Robinson not pulled of some great saves this year just a shame the defence and midfield have been so awful and put more pressure on him
donis1410 Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 I personally feel that we need warnock at left back, it was nice to see Olsson get a chance however, he inexperience showed in some big games with big mistakes being made. Playing warnock in midfield didn't help us, however, we had injury problems and now dunny is back hopefully we will see the midfield become more organised, I think that is we sold Roque we should move for Owen and Heskey and sell benni along with it (this is in my dreams but you can only hope)
gazsimm Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 it's time for jason brown,robbo never seems to save anything these days waggy are you totally dumb. Robinson has kept us in many games or kept the scoreline down should i say in many games this season. He has had the mis-fortune of taking over the great Brad, which any other keeper would find it hard to outclass Brad. He is a very good keeper and one of probably the only good things that Ince did at Rovers in signing Robbinson
Mr. E Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 waggy are you totally dumb. Robinson has kept us in many games or kept the scoreline down should i say in many games this season. He has had the mis-fortune of taking over the great Brad, which any other keeper would find it hard to outclass Brad. He is a very good keeper and one of probably the only good things that Ince did at Rovers in signing Robbinson kept us in many games? We haven't won in over 10 games! I don't know about you, but losing 3-0 instead of 4-0 is hardly that great of an achievement.
Lathund Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Robinson has done well so far IMO, but has been left woefully exposed by the defense. Even with Brad instead of him we'd be deep in the brown stuff right now. Maybe we'd have a point or two more, but that'd still leave us in the relegation zone. I wouldn't listen too much to Mr. E. He was blaming Robbo for every goal we conceded early on in the season. In games he didn't even watch. Or listen to on the radio. Or even based on BBC text commentary or some such. In the same way noone takes JAL's posts on Dunn seriously, or Jan's about MGP/Souness. Of course even they are right on occasion, but so is a broken watch.
Mr. E Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Robinson has done well so far IMO, but has been left woefully exposed by the defense. Even with Brad instead of him we'd be deep in the brown stuff right now. Maybe we'd have a point or two more, but that'd still leave us in the relegation zone. I wouldn't listen too much to Mr. E. He was blaming Robbo for every goal we conceded early on in the season. In games he didn't even watch. Or listen to on the radio. Or even based on BBC text commentary or some such. In the same way noone takes JAL's posts on Dunn seriously, or Jan's about MGP/Souness. Of course even they are right on occasion, but so is a broken watch. oh shut it. The one and only thing I am addressing on the topic of Paul Robinson is the ridiculous notion that he has gone above and beyond his call of duty and is somehow doing more than what is expected from him. Which he is not. He is a less-than-average goalkeeper with a truly s&t defense in front of him. That's it.
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