[Archived] Paul Robinson

[modes98]

That's exactly what Robbo does with those long kicks. Of course, he wasn't the only player who conceded possession but it doesn't help set things in motion.

Yet Brad's kicking was far shorter and much more erratic. Only 1 of Robbo's kicks went straight out of play and that was one which Ped let go out. All the others were kicks which we competed for and could/should have won. You cannot blame Robinson's kicking for us dropping deeper and deeper and not leaving players upfield. IMO you have to keep 2 strikers on even at 2-0 up, otherwise your just asking for pressure.

WTF DID WE LEAVE A CHUFFING WORLD CLASS STRIKER TOTALLY UNMARKED!

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[philipl]

I have no problem whatsoever with Paul Robbinson kicking a clearance downfield, i do question though the validity of Rovers fans chanting Englands Number one.

You obviously haven't seen David James recently!

[jim mk2]

You cant look at it in 15 games or so, it is now or never, your complacency baffles me, complacency as if we are good enough we cant rely on we need more far more than that to ensure Rovers a positive outcome and premiership survival.

The challenges are massively great for Rovers and all that matters is THREE points from the next game.

Happy new year and hopefully a great new year for all Rovers fans world wide.

ARTE ET LABORE.

Congratulations on keeping your dignity in the face of oafish provocation from the resident bullyboy.

With regards to Robinson, he is a good goalkeeper but not in the same top drawer as Friedel and certainly not international standard. He is beaten far too easily by low shots owing to a combination of poor positioning and a failure to spread himself properly. He is also hesitant over crosses and does not dominate his 6-yard box.

[Bobby G]

He usually dives after the ball has gone past him.

Getting down low has always been a problem for him.

His main asset is his rushing out as well as reflexes.

Friedel used to be worth 12 points a season. Best I can say is Robinson wont single-handedly cost us points...

[S15]

I was 100% behind Ince when it emerged that he was selling Freidel and replacing him with Robinson.

I was an idiot to back him. Robinson is a good shot stopper, but so are 95% of keepers at this level. His presence is like that of an ant when compared to Friedel, and his all round game is so much worse than Brads means that, regardless of age, this particular set of transfers has weakened us massively.

When a cross goes into the box I expect trouble, and this is 50% down to Robinson, and 25% down to each joker we have at centre half.

I hope if we survive, which I think we just about will, one of Sams first acts will be to replace Robinson, as he is a distinctly average goalkeeper.

[Bobby G]

Hows Bunn? Has anyone watched him in the reserves?

Also I really do wonder what happened to that magnificent 19 year old goalkeeper who single-handedly kept out Europes top teams and strikers in that CL run of Leeds a few years ago?

[S15]

Hows Bunn? Has anyone watched him in the reserves?

Also I really do wonder what happened to that magnificent 19 year old goalkeeper who single-handedly kept out Europes top teams and strikers in that CL run of Leeds a few years ago?

Current-ly he must be better than Robinson, who has gone a bit stale.

[Bobby G]

Id give him a run-out against Blyth although I feel Brown is ahead of him in the pecking order.

[S15]

Id give him a run-out against Blyth although I feel Brown is ahead of him in the pecking order.

[Bobby G]

Whats funny? :s

[waggy]

a new keeper has to come in,either promote harvey or bunn,or buy someone,robinson is very poor,has he ever come for a cross

[Al]

a new keeper has to come in,either promote harvey or bunn,or buy someone,robinson is very poor,has he ever come for a cross

Absolute BS. Robinson is one of the best keepers in the Prem. What you lot have got against him I have no idea. He had no chance with either of those goals yesterday. What you should be criticising is the stupidity of playing a centre half at right back. It is obvious that when the heat is on he will instinctively revert to his proper position and leave the wing completely free. That was our undoing yesterday and certainly not Robbo. Get off his back. He is doing an excellent job.

[Bobby G]

Lets be honest there are no POOR keepers in the PL. The difference between a good one and a great one is that a good one will save the ones he is supposed to save, but a great one sometimes saves those he is NOT SUPPOSED to save.

A great keeper might have saved one of those yesterday. First one was a bullet but the second one could have been parried away or pushed away, as it wasnt that far away from his body.

[waggy]

Absolute BS. Robinson is one of the best keepers in the Prem. What you lot have got against him I have no idea. He had no chance with either of those goals yesterday. What you should be criticising is the stupidity of playing a centre half at right back. It is obvious that when the heat is on he will instinctively revert to his proper position and leave the wing completely free. That was our undoing yesterday and certainly not Robbo. Get off his back. He is doing an excellent job.

so allidice is doing exactly what ince did,plays andrews who is not up to the premier according to everyone on here,and plays oojer at right back,its a case off having a paper thin squad

[Jan]

I'm currently on holiday, and although I could have watched the game, I didn't. (Came in with us 1 up so switched off just in case me watching would be a jinx)

Saw the highlights today and the VERY FIRST thing I thought when I saw the second goal was that Brad would have saved that. Didn't read this till just now, but Robbo was too slow off his line and too slow going down for the ball.

[Bobby G]

He is always slow going down for balls. Ive noticed something worrying too.

He dives alot AFTER the ball has gone past him.

[BuckyRover]

I'm currently on holiday, and although I could have watched the game, I didn't. (Came in with us 1 up so switched off just in case me watching would be a jinx)

Saw the highlights today and the VERY FIRST thing I thought when I saw the second goal was that Brad would have saved that. Didn't read this till just now, but Robbo was too slow off his line and too slow going down for the ball.

That's interesting.

Robinson would have saved both of the Arsenal goals against Villa the other day. So by my reckoning Robinson is a better goalkeeper (if you don't believe me now, ask me again in two years)

[tony gale's mic]

There is no way that Robinson is one of the best keepers in the Premiership. He's average at best, good shot stopper but too many other weaknesses in his game. He isn't awful but we could have got someone better, without doubt.

[Ossydave]

There is no way that Robinson is one of the best keepers in the Premiership. He's average at best, good shot stopper but too many other weaknesses in his game. He isn't awful but we could have got someone better, without doubt.

Like who FFS?

Robinson is a superb keeper, often let down by the morons in front of him.

[cesus]

Robinson does not make many saves that is fact. If you see the majority of his "world class" saves, the ball is merely 2 feet away from him and has been struck from 30 yards and he performs a massive dive for the cameras. He is just an average goalkeeper, on our budget can we expect anything better than average?

As much as it pains me to say I don't think so.

[tony gale's mic]

Like who FFS?

Robinson is a superb keeper, often let down by the morons in front of him.

It's not my job to suggest replacements - it should've been down to the scouts and manager to find someone better but there's been countless better goalkeepers bought in the Premiership for less money over the last few years. Who would've suggested Friedel before we bought him?

He's not a superb keeper, he's made mistakes in games already (Sunderland, Liverpool, Everton to name three off the top of my head), hasn't been particularly great on crosses, his positioning has let him down a bit at times too. He's been a good shot stopper, but certainly can't be labelled as "superb". Reina, Friedel, Jaaskeleinen, Schwarzer and several others are superb keepers. Robinson is an OK keeper, not awful but not great either.

[tony gale's mic]

Interestingly he's nowhere to be seen on the Actim Index top 100 players list (although no Rovers players are). It can be found here:

http://actimindex.files.wordpress.com/2008...dex_top1007.gif

There's no perfect way of numerically measuring players performances, especially across different positions, but I'm sure most will agree that's a reasonably fair assessment as to the best footballers this season. I count sixteen goalkeepers in that top 100, but no Robbo. For me this says it all.

[BuckyRover]

Not at all.

Van der Sar and Almunia are in the top 100, and they make mistakes all the time.

I would suggest that this list is about team performance and therefore I wouldn't expect to see him in there, as we have been doing badly.

I would take Robbo over Van der Sar anyday of the week. He drops a clanger in every game I watch.

[tony gale's mic]

Not at all.

Van der Sar and Almunia are in the top 100, and they make mistakes all the time.

I would suggest that this list is about team performance and therefore I wouldn't expect to see him in there, as we have been doing badly.

I would take Robbo over Van der Sar anyday of the week. He drops a clanger in every game I watch.

Scott Carson is #86 in that list. Given is #61. Sorensen #62. The much-maligned Gomes is #50 - despite the bad three or four matches or so he has turned in a few brilliant performances for Spurs this season too.

I don't know exactly the formula in that list but they have dozens of calculations, I'd imagine for the keeper it'd be things like shots saved, crosses missed, errors would feature in there obviously.

And if you'd take Robbo over VdS, clearly you know something that Sir Alex doesn't....

I know who I'd pick.

[Jan]

That's interesting.

Robinson would have saved both of the Arsenal goals against Villa the other day. So by my reckoning Robinson is a better goalkeeper (if you don't believe me now, ask me again in two years)

As you were one of the last apologists for Ince whose tongue was so far up his blow-hole it came out of his mouth, you'll forgive if I take nothing you say seriously.

And Paul Robinson will not even be Rovers no 1 in 2 years time.