AggyBlue Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 I think that might go against the managers footballing philosophy. I doubt Robinson is given much of a choice in the matter! Correct. No defenders or midfielders show for the ball when Robbo has it. This has to be down to Sams instructions.
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JAL Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 My main criticism of Robinson is .....the time it takes him to send the signal from his brain to his body to implement the correct reaction required. Confidence has no part in it. Quick thinking speed of thought ...Yes, thats whats required, if Robbo has got this, the rest of his game will simply fall into place.
DanLad Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 My main criticism of Robinson is .....the time it takes him to send the signal from his brain to his body to implement the correct reaction required. Confidence has no part in it. Quick thinking speed of thought ...Yes, thats whats required, if Robbo has got this, the rest of his game will simply fall into place. What do you mean? I think I know what you might possibly mean, but if you are saying that he has poor reactions I'm not sure what you expect. Are you maybe talking about anticipation?
JAL Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 What do you mean? I think I know what you might possibly mean, but if you are saying that he has poor reactions I'm not sure what you expect. Are you maybe talking about anticipation? His speed of thought from seeing something to implementing it i.e the brain telling himself to move the appropriate parts of the body to effect a satisfactory outcome.
Hasta Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 I can't understand why Robinson actually moves forward for their second goal. "Oh it's been deflected and looped up, I know I'll step forward."
modes98 Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 I can't understand why Robinson actually moves forward for their second goal. "Oh it's been deflected and looped up, I know I'll step forward." Because he doesn't see the deflection until it's to late. The initial shot is low which all keepers come out to turn the angles in their favour and beat away the shot, however the looping deflection would catch out every single keeper in the league. It's very difficult to switch your balance and move backwards once your getting ready to make a save as all your weight is going forward.
Tris Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 His speed of thought from seeing something to implementing it i.e the brain telling himself to move the appropriate parts of the body to effect a satisfactory outcome. Are we going to get a "morning after" translation of this garbled nonsense?
DeadlyDirk Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 To be fair I watched the goals and I though Robbo was at fault for the first and couldn't do anything about the second, I've just watched them again a few times. The first goal isn't an error it's just a limit on his abilities. He doesn't really do anything wrong but he does fractionally wrong foot himself meaning he can't dive away to his right at full stretch. The shot doesn't exactly go right into the corner. It was a good strike and would have beaten a lot of keepers but a better goalkeeper, including Friedel in my opinion would have saved it. The second goal for me is just bad luck, he has narrowed the angle slightly like he should be doing and then a freak deflection sends it over his head, any other type of strike on goal and he was in a good position to save it. All in all he is a decent keeper, not as good as Brad but then who is other than about 10 in the world? He is the best we have and we should give him our full support as one thing we can surely all agree on is that he plays better when full of confidence. I agree about the kicking though, it's both a strength and a weakness. I love the fact he has it in his arsenal as an option and can pump the ball into the opposition area but he does it to often and just becomes obvious for the defenders. Now and again he should be rolling it short to build from the back. I know our midfield isn't the best but we don't have to bypass them everytime!
Amo Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 How many top-drawer saves has he made this season? You just never hear about him having a scorcher for us. Usually he's accredited a good-game when he doesn't make any blunders.
tony gale's mic Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 How many top-drawer saves has he made this season? You just never hear about him having a scorcher for us. Usually he's accredited a good-game when he doesn't make any blunders. Exactly. Even Brad Jones had a great game against us the other week, better than any single display Robbo's put in this season. All the other keepers in the teams around us (save for Myhill maybe) have outperformed Robbo this season. Gomes might have made a few hilarious errors a few months back but he's also played a few blinders. He's simply not good enough and I don't even think it's a confidence thing.
JAL Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Are we going to get a "morning after" translation of this garbled nonsense? Thought it was plain and simple to understand ! If Robbos speed of thought processes were that thousandth of a second quicker, its highly probable that one or two of the goals hes conceding over every twenty goals currently would be preventable, this is on top of the team defending better as a unit which Sam seems to have acheived.
Stuart Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 How many top-drawer saves has he made this season? You just never hear about him having a scorcher for us. Usually he's accredited a good-game when he doesn't make any blunders. When was the last time you heard of any Rovers player doing anything top-drawer? Even Moko's goal against Sunderland didn't make it into any potential goal of the month / week lists (MOTD / SSN). Without being spectacular Robbo has done a good job (during Sam's time at Rovers). We forget that we were spoilt with having Brad for so long, and even he was making a few risks towards the end of his Rovers' days.
tony gale's mic Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 When was the last time you heard of any Rovers player doing anything top-drawer? Even Moko's goal against Sunderland didn't make it into any potential goal of the month / week lists (MOTD / SSN). Without being spectacular Robbo has done a good job (during Sam's time at Rovers). We forget that we were spoilt with having Brad for so long, and even he was making a few risks towards the end of his Rovers' days. It's different with keepers, they get tested more in relegation threatened teams and have the chance to show off their skills a lot more than other outfield players. Thats why the likes of Given, Jaaskeleinen etc have shone even when their own teams haven't been doing particularly well. As I remarked before, he has the second lowest saves to shots ratio in the whole league (well since mid-November which was as far back as the figures I could find). There was a sizeable gap between him and the other keepers around us, let alone Brad.
bellamy11 Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Exactly. Even Brad Jones had a great game against us the other week, better than any single display Robbo's put in this season. Absolutely untrue. If Jones had let in any of those shots he faced in the Boro game then they would have been soft goals. Decent saves, but every other keeper in the Prem would have saved them. Robinson performed extremely well in the game against United at home, for example. That was far better than Jones against us.
brfcshabba Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Robinson performed extremely well in the game against United at home, for example. That was far better than Jones against us. Absolutely untrue. That was Jason Brown
bellamy11 Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Absolutely untrue. That was Jason Brown Hell - what am I thinking of then? Maybe he is awful
JAL Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Absolutely untrue. That was Jason Brown As soon as Browns feet leave the floor his strengths become his weakness.
thenodrog Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Even Moko's goal against Sunderland didn't make it into any potential goal of the month / week lists (MOTD / SSN). Mokoena's goal v Sland was in the FA Cup so as ITV are televising the FA Cup it's not likely to be shown on MoTD is it?
dingles staying down 4ever Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 The simple solution is to take the lead insoles out of his boots. The main problem with Robinson, IMO, is that he never gets any distance in his jumps. When he has to deal with a high ball, he never gets any height and if you look at Saturday's first goal he did not get any distance to get accross his goal. It was a hell of a strike though but it hit virtually in the middle of the goal. From that distance, an International should be saving that type of shot. I think he needs Gymnastic lessons to work on his "spring" The second goal he probably could do little about although he did seem flat footed and made no attempt to get back. Again it was from a distance where he had time to react so possibly JAL is right.
tony gale's mic Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 The deflection on the second goal wasn't that big, I think even if it hadn't been deflected there's a decent chance it would've sailed over his head.
CrazyIvan Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 The deflection on the second goal wasn't that big, I think even if it hadn't been deflected there's a decent chance it would've sailed over his head. This is ridiculous. The deflection was considerable and Robbo stood no chance with it.
philipl Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 The deflection on the second goal wasn't that big, I think even if it hadn't been deflected there's a decent chance it would've sailed over his head. ...and certain people sometimes say the occasional post I make reduces my credibility. Suggest you watch that goal again tgm or perhaps a 70 degrees change of trajectory and complete change in speed of travel don't qualify as a big deflection?
BlueWhiteDynamite Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 How many top-drawer saves has he made this season? Many. Robbo has made many great saves at ewood this season. The problem is, is that the opposition are creating so many chances that it becomes impossible to save them all. this is not the fault of the GK but the DF and MF. Also when he has pulled out some great saves, the defence hasnt been there to clear the ball leaving the opposition striker to score. E.g Davies for Bolton at Ewood.
Tris Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I can't believe some of what's been written on here. People are having a pop at Paul Robinson just because he's Paul Robinson, and they decided months ago he wasn't welcome at Ewood Park. Not a single keeper in the country would have saved either goal on Saturday - how on earth anyone can twist the facts to suggest that Robinson screwed up is beyond me.
CrazyIvan Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I can't believe some of what's been written on here. People are having a pop at Paul Robinson just because he's Paul Robinson, and they decided months ago he wasn't welcome at Ewood Park. Not a single keeper in the country would have saved either goal on Saturday - how on earth anyone can twist the facts to suggest that Robinson screwed up is beyond me. I'm sure this is because he was signed by Ince, look at any player signed by Ince and they are a scapegoat automatically. Andrews is getting stick as is Grella and Robinson. Simpson has come in for some strong criticism as well. Personally I don't think he's that great but not as bad as some make out. Andrews makes it to a full International and is 'a worthless piece of sh@t', Grella has had a stop start season and is useless and slow, Robinson can't keep according to some. There's a pattern emerging. Some people should get over it and support them because they are Rovers players, criticise when it's deserved by all means but think about why first.
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