[Archived] Paul Robinson

[ABBEY]

dont think its anti ince at all.Everyone still remembers his "croatia thing" and his "confidence " thing at spuds.I think any manager would have made a move for him if a goalie like brad had left their club.I like robbo and think he just needs to command 6 yard area a bit more .

as for inces other signings....simpson,not good enough,grella not seen enough because of his daz andertonitus,Andrews not fit to lace flits,bats,sherwood or atkos boots.

[den]

I'm sure this is because he was signed by Ince, look at any player signed by Ince and they are a scapegoat automatically. Andrews is getting stick as is Grella and Robinson. Simpson has come in for some strong criticism as well. Personally I don't think he's that great but not as bad as some make out. Andrews makes it to a full International and is 'a worthless piece of sh@t', Grella has had a stop start season and is useless and slow, Robinson can't keep according to some. There's a pattern emerging. Some people should get over it and support them because they are Rovers players, criticise when it's deserved by all means but think about why first.

There's a pattern emerging - you're dead right. Ince got rid of our two best players. He was also given the backing from JW and the board to bring in six players. Those six players could have been the making of rovers this season, they could have certainly helped cover the loss of Friedel and Bentley. So, who did he think were the players to take us forward?

Robinson - not a patch on Brad, nowhere near, but the argument from some, is that he was the best we could get........Hmmmm.

Simpson - might struggle in the championship. Nowhere near good enough for the prem.

Andrews - so much has been said, I don't need to add anything.

Grella - unless there's something we haven't seen yet, simply not good enough.

Carlos - yet to do anything that suggests he will make the grade.

and wait for it..........Robbie Fowler.

You think the views of certain players are simply because Ince signed them? Wake up and get real CrazyIvan, because Ince has brought this club to it's knees. He took us back a long, long way.

[thenodrog]

I'm sure this is because he was signed by Ince,

It's not that difficult. I've nothing against Robinson but rem Robinson succeeded a guy that has been consistently in the top 3 keepers in the country for almost a decade. The plain fact is that he isn't as good. If he'd replaced Filan of Fettis then he'd no doubt be having a smoother ride.

btw His prowess at with high balls is starting to remind me of of John Butcher BUT he was not at fault with either goal on Sat. Freidel would not have saved either shot............. but I'm certain sure that he'd have got closer to em!

[RovertheHill]

It's not that difficult. I've nothing against Robinson but rem Robinson succeeded a guy that has been consistently in the top 3 keepers in the country for almost a decade. The plain fact is that he isn't as good. If he'd replaced Filan of Fettis then he'd no doubt be having a smoother ride.

btw His prowess at with high balls is starting to remind me of of John Butcher BUT he was not at fault with either goal on Sat. Freidel would not have saved either shot............. but I'm certain sure that he'd have got closer to em!

You have a point. Following Friedel is almost impossible in the same way following Shearer was. Having said that Robbo needs to impose himself more. I always thought Friedel was vulnerable to crosses but Robbo is even more so - I'd like to see him command his area better

[tony gale's mic]

Forget comparing Robbo with Brad, I agree it's silly.

But he isn't as good as most of the keepers in the teams around us either. Or at least he hasn't been based on his displays for us this season.

[gazsimm]

Forget comparing Robbo with Brad, I agree it's silly.

But he isn't as good as most of the keepers in the teams around us either. Or at least he hasn't been based on his displays for us this season.

it's not just down to Robinson i think the whole of defence this season has been very poor, maybe exclude Samba in some matches. It has improved a bit while Sam has taken over, but we are still conceding silly goals. Robinson has been at fault for some of goals true, but the blame has also got to go to Oojier, Nelson, Warnock, Olsen, Simpson e.t.c as well.

Robinson is not as good and consitant has Brad at keeping i am affraid, but there are plenty other keepers in the prem who are not as well.

[Blueheart]

I have to say that Robinson is the poorest goalkeeper i have senn in the nets for Rovers for such a long long time.

I have very rarely seen a keeper who is so very poor on dealing with any cross int the box, how he ever got selected, never mind picked for England beggars belief.

When you have someone so dodgy as him behind you , no wonder our defense is bad.

Personally I would give the young lad Boon a go he cant be as bad as Robinson.

[joey_big_nose]

I have to say that Robinson is the poorest goalkeeper i have senn in the nets for Rovers for such a long long time.

I have very rarely seen a keeper who is so very poor on dealing with any cross int the box, how he ever got selected, never mind picked for England beggars belief.

When you have someone so dodgy as him behind you , no wonder our defense is bad.

Personally I would give the young lad Boon a go he cant be as bad as Robinson.

I assume you mean Bunn....

He is extremely highly rated so maybe will get a chance. I am unsure how we can really drop Robinson though. He is a big purchase for us, on a lot of money, and his main problem is confidence. He will have to drop some real clangers for that to happen.

[marklcfc]

We (Leicester) will be signing Mark Bunn on loan. Good I take it?

[thenodrog]

Robbo doesn't look so bad now after watching Gomes for Spurs. His awful error was compounded by his playing dead episode. I've not seen anything more ridiculous since Steven Taylor was shot in the ribs by a spectator with a snipers fifle at Newcastle for committing a handball in the area.

[LeChuck]

Take a look at the bottom half of the table and which goalkeepers would you swap Robbo for? I really don't think it's many - only James, Jaaskelainen and Gordon for me. I'd be terrified at the thought of having Carson, Turnbull/Jones, Gomes, Harper or Duke in goal. Robinson is slightly better than Sorensen for me as well. I haven't seen anything of Cudicini since Chelsea's pre-Cech days.

We need to forget about Brad, we were utterly spoilt by having him for so many years and it's not fair to use him as the yardstick.

[DeadlyDirk]

Take a look at the bottom half of the table and which goalkeepers would you swap Robbo for? I really don't think it's many - only James, Jaaskelainen and Gordon for me. I'd be terrified at the thought of having Carson, Turnbull/Jones, Gomes, Harper or Duke in goal. Robinson is slightly better than Sorensen for me as well. I haven't seen anything of Cudicini since Chelsea's pre-Cech days.

We need to forget about Brad, we were utterly spoilt by having him for so many years and it's not fair to use him as the yardstick.

That's the keypoint for me, Robbo isn't as good as Brad was and probably never will be but there is no shame in that, he's a decent keeper and still there or there abouts in the top 10 in the premiership. Goalkeepers are just highlighted more than ever these days and for some reason the press really jumped on Robbo a couple of years ago and he's never really recovered yet, they've gone quiet on him though since his move to Rovers, hopefully he can get his form back and reproduce his Leeds form.

[RoversSG]

I don't think Robinson is as bad as what some here makes him out to be. Granted, he makes my heart stop every time a cross comes into our box but he's not bad at shot stopping and a lot of the goals he conceded were down to our crap defence this season.

Plus, i do like the fact that he does seems genuinely very upset every time he conceded a goal. I think some of our team always have a resigned look whenever we conceded goals and it upsets me that they do not seem to care that they are letting us, the fans down.

I would say give Paul a chance, he might not be a legend like Brad but he'll probably work out fine in seasons to come.

[BRFC1995]

I don't think Robinson is as bad as what some here makes him out to be. Granted, he makes my heart stop every time a cross comes into our box but he's not bad at shot stopping and a lot of the goals he conceded were down to our crap defence this season.

Plus, i do like the fact that he does seems genuinely very upset every time he conceded a goal. I think some of our team always have a resigned look whenever we conceded goals and it upsets me that they do not seem to care that they are letting us, the fans down.

I would say give Paul a chance, he might not be a legend like Brad but he'll probably work out fine in seasons to come.

if he was only earning, 15k per week( sounds crazy saying only 15k) he would'nt get so much critisism however after playing for spuds and england i'd reasonably imagine he's on 40k+ per week and he just does'nt come close to being worth that.

[jny]

Turnbull/jones are proving to be good keepers at middlesborough

wouldn't mind having one

[tony gale's mic]

That's the keypoint for me, Robbo isn't as good as Brad was and probably never will be but there is no shame in that, he's a decent keeper and still there or there abouts in the top 10 in the premiership. Goalkeepers are just highlighted more than ever these days and for some reason the press really jumped on Robbo a couple of years ago and he's never really recovered yet, they've gone quiet on him though since his move to Rovers, hopefully he can get his form back and reproduce his Leeds form.

If he's in the top 10 in the league why does he boast the second lowest saves to shots ratio when pretty much all the other keepers around him are performing considerably better? Even more so than the crosses that's the biggest indicator for me, and you don't even need stats to prove it. The man hasn't had one game, not one single game where he's actually actively won us points by pulling off a string of good saves. With Brad that figure would be at least 5 or 6 games by this point, but even most keepers manage at least couple of games by now where they produce those kinds of performances.

No way is he top 10. Maybe not second worst as that stat suggests, but not far off.

His Leeds form was a flash in the pan IMO, it was years and years ago. We're talking the best part of a decade. It was most likely just a flash in the pan.

[Majiball]

His Leeds form was a flash in the pan IMO, it was years and years ago. We're talking the best part of a decade. It was most likely just a flash in the pan.

Christ, no one really had a bad word to say about Robbo until that incident, which was in October 2006. His form at Tottenham prior to that was fine.

Just so you know he made his debut in 1997 so nine years of "Form", personally I'd say that was class, you very rarely see a nine year flash in the pan. Every crap player gets 41 england caps don't they, 28 wins in that as well must be the worst keeper since Taibi. Ever present for england prior and clean sheets in 4 out of 5 matches in the 2006 world cup.

[tony gale's mic]

Christ, no one really had a bad word to say about Robbo until that incident, which was in October 2006. His form at Tottenham prior to that was fine.

Just so you know he made his debut in 1997 so nine years of "Form", personally I'd say that was class, you very rarely see a nine year flash in the pan. Every crap player gets 41 england caps don't they, 28 wins in that as well must be the worst keeper since Taibi. Ever present for england prior and clean sheets in 4 out of 5 matches in the 2006 world cup.

The times when he was playing really well were a flash in the pan. Granted I don't have Robbo's greatest hits on DVD but was he setting the world on fire at Spurs even before the obvious errors?

The England stuff is really overplayed. You do realise Phil Neville has 18 more England caps don't you? How many great keepers did Robbo keep out of the side? 4 out of 5 clean sheets maybe but that's down to the defence he was playing behind. I don't recall him producing any starring roles in that tournament - granted he didn't have to since the defence did such a good job but it shouldn't be used either way unless he was called on to make a string of excellent saves at any point during that run.

[DeadlyDirk]

If he's in the top 10 in the league why does he boast the second lowest saves to shots ratio when pretty much all the other keepers around him are performing considerably better? Even more so than the crosses that's the biggest indicator for me, and you don't even need stats to prove it. The man hasn't had one game, not one single game where he's actually actively won us points by pulling off a string of good saves. With Brad that figure would be at least 5 or 6 games by this point, but even most keepers manage at least couple of games by now where they produce those kinds of performances.

No way is he top 10. Maybe not second worst as that stat suggests, but not far off.

His Leeds form was a flash in the pan IMO, it was years and years ago. We're talking the best part of a decade. It was most likely just a flash in the pan.

I'd rather have Robbo than Myhill, Carson, Sorsensen, Almunia, Schwarzer, Harper, and probably Gomes so admittedly on current form he isn't quite in the top ten, still to reiterate my initial point, he isn't that bad and we should get behind him and support him instead of critising him all the time, some people respond to criticism, he isn't one of those.

[DeadlyDirk]

The times when he was playing really well were a flash in the pan. Granted I don't have Robbo's greatest hits on DVD but was he setting the world on fire at Spurs even before the obvious errors?

The England stuff is really overplayed. You do realise Phil Neville has 18 more England caps don't you? How many great keepers did Robbo keep out of the side? 4 out of 5 clean sheets maybe but that's down to the defence he was playing behind. I don't recall him producing any starring roles in that tournament - granted he didn't have to since the defence did such a good job but it shouldn't be used either way unless he was called on to make a string of excellent saves at any point during that run.

I'm not a fan of Phil Neville, he's a pretty unfashionable player and it's easy to criticise him but he had been a decent player, one of the reason for so many of his caps is due to his versatility, Neville won many trophies with Man U and now is captaining Everton who have regularly finished in the top 6 or so since he's been here, at least in recent times anyway, I'm not sure off hand how long he has been there. How many of those caps he has have been sub appearances anyway while I'd guess 90% of Robbo's have been from the start.

[tony gale's mic]

I'd rather have Robbo than Myhill, Carson, Sorsensen, Almunia, Schwarzer, Harper, and probably Gomes so admittedly on current form he isn't quite in the top ten, still to reiterate my initial point, he isn't that bad and we should get behind him and support him instead of critising him all the time, some people respond to criticism, he isn't one of those.

Apart from Myhill and Harper (who has barely played but according to the Newcastle fans is actually a pretty good keeper), the rest have saved a fair degree more of the shots that have come their way than Robbo has this season. It's not even that close. Schwarzer has had a very good season, I think you're letting that last match vs Utd cloud your judgement slightly (where he was awful).

Agreed that we should cheer him on and get behind him, but it'd be a bit silly to overstate his current performances on this, a fans' forum.

[Exiled_Rover]

The knives will be out again after Ronaldo's goal today...

[oozy]

I so want to defend Robbo, and I dont feel he has made any major mistakes, bar the Sunderland one.

However, he never seems to have a game where he stands out and every goal he concedes leaves you thinking he could have done something different to ensure the ball didn't go in.

[des]

he costs us a point today

[philipl]

he costs us a point today

Totally disagree