Hughesy Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Just add him to your ignore list - it makes the reading so much easier. Anyway i thought this was the Robbo thread? ENGLANDS NUMBER 1 - Whens the next England Squad?
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DanLad Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 I really don't understand why Vinjay gets quite the level of abuse that he does. There's been far bigger idiots not get as much stick. It think its due to the 'carpet bombing' of threads. You can't read a thread without the same point appearing all over the place no matter how diverse the topic should be. The odd daft comment here and there passes under the radar. Just add him to your ignore list - it makes the reading so much easier. Anyway i thought this was the Robbo thread? ENGLANDS NUMBER 1 - Whens the next England Squad? I'd much prefer that he plays brilliantly for us every week and never plays for England. Edit - Sorry, I don't know why these have appeared in the same post.
tonyoz Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Every credit to Robbo for his performance on Sunday. People were looking for a "points winning" performance and that was it. Let's hope he can cut the other errors out of his game on a regular basis. If he can, he'll do fine for us. ....But FLB, I can't see where he's been getting better as the season's gone along. Nor do I see where Ince's other signings are looking much better. I think Robinson has improved but maybe he will never shake off those occasional "dodgy" moments completely. (David James hasn't managed it either). I do think that he has tried hard to get back to number one........ Nelsen said: “He’s been working really hard over the past six months. He’s been making improvements to his lifestyle, his physique, his strength and his speed. “It’s really starting to tell now – you can see it in his game and he’s beginning to show what a great goalkeeper he is.” That was the best performance from a Rovers goalkeeper for a long, long time in my opinion. I do like the guy...even when he is not in direct action, he tries to make a difference and he seems to relate well to the fans. I reckon he wore the biggest smile in Ewood when that 2nd goal went in. As for Grella, I can't make my mind up. I don't think we've seen him fully fit yet. I did think that he had the potential to do a David Batty-type job for us but ...........sometimes he looks as slow as Nora Batty. JW backed Ince on that purchase because he is not a typical Rovers signing. Usually, we don't pay good money for players unless there is a good chance that we will be able to move them on later at a profit.
gbax Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 I really don't understand why Vinjay gets quite the level of abuse that he does. There's been far bigger idiots not get as much stick. I hope you are being ironic!?! Vinjay is like a piece of used chewing gum stuck on the sole of BRFCS's shoe!
Hughesy Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Id prefer he played for England because if he is the No.1 then that means he must be on top form for us.....
den Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 To which part? Grella has shown that he can tackle and pass, which is really all that will be asked of him with the role you would expect him to play. Well there's the difference of opinion then. Tackle? Pass? Not yet Eddie. When you're assessing these players, do you actually look at the quality of player in the other sides in this league, look to see the standard required to become a regular? - because Grella hasn't done anything worthwhile yet and so far falls way short of that requirement. [Note: I said so far]
T4E Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 I hope you are being ironic!?! Vinjay is like a piece of used chewing gum stuck on the sole of BRFCS's shoe! Even if I was joking it wouldn't qualify as irony. And I wasn't. I understand he goes on a bit, but its now getting to the stage where people are bringing up his pet subjects before him just to lay in to him. Whats the point? As Hughesy says above, put him on ignore if it bothers you that much. All I see is a guy who is a bit over-enthusiastic in his support for the club. Hardly crime of the century.
gbax Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Even if I was joking it wouldn't qualify as irony. And I wasn't. I understand he goes on a bit, but its now getting to the stage where people are bringing up his pet subjects before him just to lay in to him. Whats the point? As Hughesy says above, put him on ignore if it bothers you that much. All I see is a guy who is a bit over-enthusiastic in his support for the club. Hardly crime of the century. I have put him on ignore, it was you who mentioned him in this thread! hmmm!
LeChuck Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 It's the same situation with waggy really, by far the biggest problem are the people who keep responding. I'm sure Vinjay's nowhere near as mental as he used to be, apart from that bit about not signing players who have families.
T4E Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Gbax, have you not read the posts immediately before mine?
gbax Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Gbax, have you not read the posts immediately before mine? If it's by Vinjay, I can't see it can I! :-)
T4E Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 It's the same situation with waggy really, by far the biggest problem are the people who keep responding. Exactly. Not only do they reply, they do so looking to bait them in to a reaction with posts like "What do you think of Allardyce now, Waggy?" or "Don't mention Man United on this thread, Vinjay". Absolutely barmy - why give them a platform to express the views that you dislike so much? If it's by Vinjay, I can't see it can I! :-) Have you also blocked Ricky?
Ricky Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 I commented on his ridiculous slating of the legend that is Kuqi.
Backroom DE. Posted April 28, 2009 Backroom Posted April 28, 2009 I was very disappointed when we signed Kuqi back in the day, and he wasn't premiership quality, but he tried his hardest and scored some vital goals for us. Which is more than can be said for the likes of Davies, Grabbi, Ferguson, etc, "stars" we paid far more for and were far worse.
waggy Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 i reckon robbo saved us 2pts on sunday,and 2pts versus spurs.good saves at fulham and hull saved another 4 points.so up to now he has saved 8 pts this season,will this be enough to keep his job next season.friedal saved us at least 15pts per season
Jonnolad Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 i reckon robbo saved us 2pts on sunday,and 2pts versus spurs.good saves at fulham and hull saved another 4 points.so up to now he has saved 8 pts this season,will this be enough to keep his job next season.friedal saved us at least 15pts per season Plus if I was brutally honest I'd say that Robbo has probably cost us points this season (in addition to any he's saved). The looping header against Hull near the start of the season where he made no attempt at all to get it (didn't move) and lo and behold it went in, and Chelsea's first goal in the bad weather where he had his arms up for a hand ball rather than attempting to get an easily savable goal, are two that immediately spring to mind.
tony gale's mic Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 This is the first game where I'd say his performance has won us points. Yes he's made saves in other matches but Wigan was the first game where he pulled out a string of good saves. Hopefully there'll be more to come, along with fewer errors.
LeChuck Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 He also saved two points against Fulham. A few minutes after Roberts scored, Nelsen made a terrible error and let a Fulham player through on goal, Robinson pulled off a brilliant save low to his left (I think). I think that got a little bit forgotten about because of the quality of Roberts' winner.
tony gale's mic Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 He also saved two points against Fulham. A few minutes after Roberts scored, Nelsen made a terrible error and let a Fulham player through on goal, Robinson pulled off a brilliant save low to his left (I think). I think that got a little bit forgotten about because of the quality of Roberts' winner. Nevertheless, pulling off regulation saves and the odd great save is what keepers are paid to do. Pulling off a string of great saves represents a points winning performance in my book. With Friedel we'd see this around 6-7 games a season. Not asking as much of Robbo but if he could do it 3 or 4 times a season and have fewer errors in his others then I could definitely say I'm very happy with our keeper.
tonygreenbank Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 i reckon robbo saved us 2pts on sunday,and 2pts versus spurs.good saves at fulham and hull saved another 4 points.so up to now he has saved 8 pts this season,will this be enough to keep his job next season.friedal saved us at least 15pts per season Would be interesting to compare the performance of Friedel in his first season with us. Friedel got better the longer he was with us as he got to know the defence and became settled at the club. I`m sure the same will apply to Robbo. His confidence should be sky high at the moment.
Rover95 Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 The goalkeeper's position is a very isolated one and therefore individual errors are highlighted more than if an outfield player made them. When Robbo came to us he was very low on confidence, rejected by club and country and as a goalkeeper, I think it takes longer to build up that confidence. I think he has cost us points this season - but he certainly isn't the reason we're in the mess we've been in. He definitely saved us on Sunday and I'dlike to think he'll build on that performance for the rest of the season and into next. I think that in seasons to come, we'll look back and think we bagged ourselves a bargain!
modes98 Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 The looping header against Hull near the start of the season where he made no attempt at all to get it (didn't move) and lo and behold it went in, and Chelsea's first goal in the bad weather where he had his arms up for a hand ball rather than attempting to get an easily savable goal, are two that immediately spring to mind. Have you ever played in goal? If you have then you will know that moving backwards when your in the process of running across the goal to try and make a save is impossible. It's difficult enough trying to back peddle from a standing start. It was a good header and nothing that Robinson or many other keepers could have done anything about. The Chelsea goal was poor, in normal conditions it would have run easily in but that's no excuse. In the grand scheme of things that cost us how many points though? none! We would have lost that match even if he had saved that.
Iceman Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 As good as Friedel is, i still see silly school boy errors from him. He saved us loads of points, but he made mistakes that cost us points. Friedel really matured late, and we know GK's mature in their mid 30's. Robbo is still young, and there are similarities between him and Brad, most notably dodgy under the high ball, brilliant at shot stopping. Give him time, but dont dent his confidence when the support is needed more.
den Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 As good as Friedel is, i still see silly school boy errors from him. He saved us loads of points, but he made mistakes that cost us points. Friedel really matured late, and we know GK's mature in their mid 30's. Robbo is still young, and there are similarities between him and Brad, most notably dodgy under the high ball, brilliant at shot stopping. Give him time, but dont dent his confidence when the support is needed more. No Iceman, Robbo's a long way short of Friedel at his best. I honestly can't remember Brad making more than one or two errors in a season at the most. He was the most consistent keeper I have ever seen in a rovers shirt. That's why he is in BRFCS.COM best ever team. - Nor was he poor at crosses, that's a myth. Can't remember him dropping one cross in his career here. He stayed on his line a lot, but that was what he was asked to do.
tony gale's mic Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Most excellent keepers are excellent keepers by the time they're Robbo's age. Brad was an exception because his career followed a very unusual trajectory - he entered professional football pretty late, was repeatedly denied work permits for the UK, went to Turkey where he must have done really well to have got Souey's approval etc etc. Noone's expecting Robbo to become the next Brad though, but a marked improvement on this season's overall performance next season is what's needed. Wigan was a fantastic start on that road though.
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