Ozz Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Can't remember him dropping one cross in his career here. Fulham at home 2000, the ball landed at Sahas feet who promptly stuck it in the net, in the owd Div One game.
This thread is brought to you by theterracestore.com Enter code `BRFCS` at checkout for an exclusive discount!
den Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Fulham at home 2000, the ball landed at Sahas feet who promptly stuck it in the net, in the owd Div One game. There's always one, isn't there Oz!
AggyBlue Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Nor was he poor at crosses, that's a myth. Can't remember him dropping one cross in his career here. He stayed on his line a lot, but that was what he was asked to do. Got to disagree there Den. He stayed on his line because he was shyte at crosses. Good keepers command their area, you can't do that from the goal line. Brad was a great shot stopper, one on ones he was as good as anyone. The rest of his game wasn't that good.
den Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Got to disagree there Den. He stayed on his line because he was shyte at crosses. Good keepers command their area, you can't do that from the goal line. Brad was a great shot stopper, one on ones he was as good as anyone. The rest of his game wasn't that good. If he stayed on his line Aggy, how do you know he was shyte at crosses? Seriously, if he was bad we would all have seen him coming, flapping and dropping crosses.
AggyBlue Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 If he stayed on his line Aggy, how do you know he was shyte at crosses? I remember from his Liverpool days
LeChuck Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Bit pedantic there Den, he is @#/? at crosses because he doesn't come to claim them. We didn't see him flapping and dropping them because he never attempted to get them. I think a lot of people made the remark whilst he was playing for us, it was the major weakness in his game. That's why quite a few of us weren't too bothered when he left, once his superman-like reflexes desert him there really won't be much left to his game at all.
T4E Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Got to disagree there Den. He stayed on his line because he was shyte at crosses. Good keepers command their area, you can't do that from the goal line. Brad was a great shot stopper, one on ones he was as good as anyone. The rest of his game wasn't that good. What a load of @#/?.
tony gale's mic Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 He was great on corners. The amount of time you'd see them dropping straight into his arms. I feel there's a bit of revisionism going on here...
Billy Castell Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 For me, Brad did stay on the line more than most keepers. It wasn't that he was crap at crosses, more that he probably wasn't the sort to come and punch the ball away and would rather be there on the line should the ball be racing towards the goal. To my mind he was the opposite of a lot of those good Italian keepers like Buffon who would often come charging out for crosses and corners, and punch the ball away.
Eddie Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Friedel is probably the best shot-stopper I've ever seen, but I'd agree that he technically isn't as good as a lot of keepers. His reflexes are on another level to most, but his positioning was often poor for set pieces and he wasn't dominant in the area. That doesn't mean he wasn't/isn't a great keeper, he just wasn't perfect in every area. As a result of not being great at claiming crosses he didn't go for them so much. At least he was smart enough to know that rather than go on walkies and flap at anything that flew across him. We'll never see another keeper as good as Friedel at pulling off miracle saves, but we will probably see a keeper who is technically better and that may lead to him being just as important to the team.
Exiled in Toronto Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 It's a fact he only started coming for corners regularly in his last two seasons with Hitchcock coaching. He relied on his shot-stopping rather than risk coming off his line very much. Where he was sh!te was direct free kicks; we went through a couple of seasons where every decent one went in without him moving a muscle - remember the 40 yarder by Man City? Henry couldn't miss against him. More recently I thought his dealing with the indirect free kick at OT was utterly hopeless. One thing's for sure, he won't be as good next season while I'll bet Robbo will improve quite a lot
thenodrog Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Would be interesting to compare the performance of Friedel in his first season with us. Friedel got better the longer he was with us as he got to know the defence and became settled at the club. I`m sure the same will apply to Robbo. His confidence should be sky high at the moment. I'm not sure SA will give him that chance. However he has done his case no harm at all recently.
The Prof. Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Got to disagree there Den. He stayed on his line because he was shyte at crosses. Good keepers command their area, you can't do that from the goal line. Brad was a great shot stopper, one on ones he was as good as anyone. The rest of his game wasn't that good. Must be another Brad Friedel! Are there 2?
thenodrog Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 No Iceman, Robbo's a long way short of Friedel at his best. I honestly can't remember Brad making more than one or two errors in a season at the most. He was the most consistent keeper I have ever seen in a rovers shirt. That's why he is in BRFCS.COM best ever team. - Nor was he poor at crosses, that's a myth. Can't remember him dropping one cross in his career here. He stayed on his line a lot, but that was what he was asked to do. Freidels weakness is Robinsons strength.... kicking the ball.
den Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Bit pedantic there Den, he is @#/? at crosses because he doesn't come to claim them. We didn't see him flapping and dropping them because he never attempted to get them. I think a lot of people made the remark whilst he was playing for us, it was the major weakness in his game. That's why quite a few of us weren't too bothered when he left, once his superman-like reflexes desert him there really won't be much left to his game at all. You never saw Friedel come for a cross? You're joking - right? Just because a keeper doesn't come for everything doesn't mean he's useless at crosses, does it! It wasn't a weakness at all, it was tactical. There was an article written about it at the time. The coaches at Ewood always reckoned it was better for the keeper to stay, while the centre halves were so dominant in the air. Colin Hendry was the quoted centre half.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Freidel was the best keeper we've ever had at Ewood. However dealing with crosses was not his forte. I can remember plenty of goals coming fromopponents having unchallenged headers from in and around the edge of the six-yard box.
jim mk2 Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Freidel was the best keeper we've ever had at Ewood. However dealing with crosses was not his forte. I can remember plenty of goals coming fromopponents having unchallenged headers from in and around the edge of the six-yard box. Contracted yourself there. A top-class goalkeeper cannot be weak on crosses. Best goalie in a Rovers shirt was Roger Jones, followed by Tim Flowers, then Friedel.
Iceman Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Den i never said Robbo is as good as Brad, just said their are similarities between them.
Stuart Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 I'm not sure SA will give him that chance. However he has done his case no harm at all recently. If we sold Robinson, who would we replace him with?
tonygreenbank Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 I'm not sure SA will give him that chance. However he has done his case no harm at all recently. Have you heard the same rumours as me Theno?? I was trying to boost Robbo`s confidence for these last few games. I must say he looked good on Sunday.
den Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Den i never said Robbo is as good as Brad, just said their are similarities between them. Yeah, no problems Iceman. The difference in opinions of Brad, seem to be that some folk think that he didn't come off his line as often as some other keepers, was a sign that he couldn't deal with crosses, while some see it as good, safe keeping. He rarely, if ever, came and missed.
donis1410 Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 why do people still keep digging at Robbo.....I think he has played well in a team that as a whole has lacked self confidence for the majority of the season as Sundays performance showed, his confidence is growing and if it hadn't of been for some great saves by him and some poor finsihing by Wigan we could have been a team that had lost another game at home
stuwilky Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 It's a fact he only started coming for corners regularly in his last two seasons with Hitchcock coaching. He relied on his shot-stopping rather than risk coming off his line very much. Where he was sh!te was direct free kicks; we went through a couple of seasons where every decent one went in without him moving a muscle - remember the 40 yarder by Man City? Henry couldn't miss against him. More recently I thought his dealing with the indirect free kick at OT was utterly hopeless. One thing's for sure, he won't be as good next season while I'll bet Robbo will improve quite a lot Agree entirely with this EiT.
Amo Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 One swallow doesn't make a summer. I know that might sound harsh, but I do feel some fans get ahead of themselves, particularly in the euphoria of Sunday's result. Yes, Robinson played very well, but he has to show this consistently to prove he's more than an average keeper.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.