tony gale's mic Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I agree. Robinson is only slightly better than average and the more mistakes he makes, the more I start to think we could do with a change. Bunn would get my vote for a go in the team. If we're talking about Premier League then average would be very kind. As much as he was a bad signing though, we need to strengthen the midfield more than we need to change our keeper.
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Tris Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 The entire team performance is declining under this management, it's not fair to single out individuals imo. We have seen plenty of evidence that most of them are good players. I'm sure Robinson would tell you he absolutely hates being given the ball direct from kick off so he can hoof it towards a lone striker ... that's not his job, but the prat in charge is telling the team to do that so Robinson is now one of the main supply lines to Di Santo. Let the poor bugger stick to catching the thing.
den Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I've said it before, but he so much reminds me of Alan Kelly in his last season. He simply can't save ordinary shots. Virtually anything on target goes in. He could and should have stopped at least two, probably three of the goals tonight.
tony gale's mic Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 The entire team performance is declining under this management, it's not fair to single out individuals imo. We have seen plenty of evidence that most of them are good players. I'm sure Robinson would tell you he absolutely hates being given the ball direct from kick off so he can hoof it towards a lone striker ... that's not his job, but the prat in charge is telling the team to do that so Robinson is now one of the main supply lines to Di Santo. Let the poor bugger stick to catching the thing. His job is to save shots and catch well. He's not doing either. What he thinks of the tactics are another issue. The performance of the keeper should be least affected by the tactics - and he's about the same level as he has been for the last six or seven years...not good enough. Had he been an Allardyce signing there's absolutely no question your response to this thread would be different.
Hughesy Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Tonights 1st goal was his fault - he should of gone through Andrews if necessary to punch that ball well clear - too nice for his own good there! Apart from that - I agree with Den that far too many soft shots seem to find their way past him, he doesnt seem to often pull off finger tip saves.
grizfoot Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I always wondered why Robbo always seems to stand much further of his line than other goalkeepers. Citeh's fourth goal was a prime example, he may still have not saved it but would have surely got closer if he wasn't 4-5 yards of his line. Worrying that for both the long-range goals he wasn't even close to saving them, I definitley think long shots are his weakness and other teams must know that.
dixonbrfc Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 i feel sorry for robinson, he has far more to do than any other goalkeeper in the prem probably! he is a DECENT keeper playing in a SHI*E team! we are not going to get a better keeper than him. i think the focus of attention should not be focusing on him, there are faw worst players! for the first goal he should have gone through andrews to get the ball and hopefully sent him off the pitch on a stretcher!!!! im sorry if thats sounds harsh but players that dont put in effort pis* me off. i also like robinson for the respect and loyalty that he shows the fans, him and nelson are the 2 players that every game come over to the rovers fans and clap! i saw quite a few today just walk off down the tunnel. i hope the rumours of a locked changing room are right and they all as a team got a rolloking, because they sure as hell deserved it
bluebruce Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I'm sure Robinson would tell you he absolutely hates being given the ball direct from kick off so he can hoof it towards a lone striker ... that's not his job, but the prat in charge is telling the team to do that so Robinson is now one of the main supply lines to Di Santo. Let the poor bugger stick to catching the thing. That has nothing to do with his ability between the sticks, saving shots. Nothing at all. There is quite a time difference between most of his kicks and having to make a save. If he has trouble adjusting to the difference, he is nothing short of a spastic.
tcj_jones Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I always wondered why Robbo always seems to stand much further of his line than other goalkeepers. Citeh's fourth goal was a prime example, he may still have not saved it but would have surely got closer if he wasn't 4-5 yards of his line. Worrying that for both the long-range goals he wasn't even close to saving them, I definitley think long shots are his weakness and other teams must know that. Robbo has two weaknesses: long range shots and high balls into the box. You can get away with the former, but the latter is proving a massive flaw in his game. He's making less mistakes in this regard, but only because he's clearly been told not to go for as much. These were both major faults during his time with Spurs. Fortunately, his general shot-stopping ability has also saved us on numerous occasions this season. He's probably the best keeper out there for a club in our financial position.
RevidgeBlue Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Bad mistake tonight for the first goal but I think you could board the goal up behind this side playing this formation away from home and still concede three or four. Robinson is the very least of our problems.
67splitscreen Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 That has nothing to do with his ability between the sticks, saving shots. Nothing at all. There is quite a time difference between most of his kicks and having to make a save. If he has trouble adjusting to the difference, he is nothing short of a spastic. Not like you bluebruce, I'll put it down to post match depression.
Bobby G Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Theres a reason he hasnt had a look in under Capello and it isnt personal. He has been a liability at times, but it has been covered up because we have been far more rubbish in other departments.
M2XLY Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 i agree that he isnt really brilliant at long range shots, but you cant blame Robbo alone! Players shouldnt be allowed to shoot from as far out as they do against us! you have to blame the defence and the midfield (if we have one). Robbo is a very good keeper, we couldnt get any better than him, but there are ten men infront of him who u have to look at first before we can blame him for long shots! Other teams know we have a Sh*t defence and they will punish us for it!
roverblue Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I think he is the worst keeper we have had in the 15-20 years I have been following rovers. Goalkeeper is a position that we have always been blessed with talent until now. Basically if its on target it goes in. And if the opposition can't manage that then he will drop or flap one or two as a brucey bonus
LeftWinger Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I think he is the worst keeper we have had in the 15-20 years I have been following rovers. Alan Fettis?
roverblue Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 To be honest its probably unfair of me to make such a comparison, but I have never had the same dread I get when the ball is near our box in my time as a rovers fan. You just know that if its on target chances are the ball is going in the net, he seems incapable of saving shots or catching crosses 90% of the time. If you look at the goals we have conceded this season and particuarly the first or important ones in games you think "he should have saved that".
Amo Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 His strength is his shot-stopping, but for a keeper of his size I'd expect nothing less. But he is far too erratic in the air and has also been caught out several times from distance. Bring back Bunn and give him a shot.
cesus Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 For me the fact is that Robinson cannot be relied on at all. He concedes way too many of the shots at him, and if he is challenged for a high ball be it our player or an opponent he doesn't even try to catch it. You can blame the players infront of him and i'd partly agree BUT that was a bread and butter catch last night and the ball ends up in the back of the net, we don't score many goals so to be 1 down so early the lads heads must really drop.
sambo Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Yeah he's poor, but he claps the fans after every game, so it's okay His playing up the fans only hides his poor performances in my eyes, and the fans always buy it.
Blue blood Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Sambo - have to say that his relationship with the fans is appreciated. It's nice to have players who care about the club/fans to a greater degree than your average mercenary. In an ideal world we'd have players who are top quality and have a good rapport with the fans. Failing that I'd take good quality players. Failing that, well it's nice to have something positive at rovers these days. However, I don't think it masks over some shambolic errors. Thing is he's capable of top class saves - he pulled one off the other night vs city - but you're just as likely to get some howlers from him. To me goalkeeping is about consistency, and I'd rather have a keeper who has less talent in terms of making the great saves but does less errors, than someone like Robinson or James who blows very hot and cold. Good examples of this season are vs Arsenal away - where he saved it from being even more embarassing - and Hull way where he earned us a point. Trouble is he's just as likely to cost you the points as win them. Problem is there are areas of the team that are consistently poor, so need much more urgent work.
dazmaz Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 im still not sure on robbo, he as alot of work to do for us due to our defence standing off players, and if enough people have a crack at goal they will eventually go in. as a keeper myself i know how hard it is to remain composed after you concede your first goal of the match, and even if it might not be your fault you still blame yourself. all it takes is a split sec for you to lose concentration or slightly over think and the ball is in the net. now im not saying robbo is world class nor is he perfect and makes plenty of misakes, but he is great for a club our size, and i can imagain how hard his job is when our defence is the way it is.
sam_rovers Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 A truly truly terrible goal keeper.... Cant save a ball, cant catch a cross, Oh, how I miss Friedel... We should get begovic, the portsmouth substitute goalie..
modes98 Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I know I must bring his name up more than any other non rovers player. Kieran Westwood at Coventry. If we could sell Robbo for £3m to £5m, which is highly likely and Westwood is being touted around at between £1.5m to £3m. We could earn some money and get a better up and coming keeper IMO. Westwood's distribution is brilliant short and long distance, cracking shot stopper and good hands at crosses.
S15 Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 If we were to sell Robinson for £3m-£5m we would be deducted ten points for blatant theft. Everyone is aware of his shitness, and to shift him we'd have to make a loss on what we paid.
broadsword Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Would it be better to take a £1.5 mill hit on him and get £2m in to spend on someone who can pass a ball straight and put Bunn in, rather than carry on with him?
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