[Archived] Nickos Thread

[DeadlyDirk]

Sorry DD, there is nothing redeeming about Zigic- a very poor man's Peter Crouch's unco-ordinated older cousin.

And quite simply there is no way a top half Premiership club should even be contemplating a Keith Andrews signing.

Yet everyone is saying were fools for not wanting Annan because Wenger has expressed an interested.

Yet Zigic is a player Wenger was interested in and we'd be fools to be interested in him??

Well surely that can't work both ways.

Youtube isn't the best source thats for sure but there is plenty of videos on there of him showing quality. It may be he is a very patchy player but perhaps the right man can get the best out of him.

Villa were also interested before as well as Arsenal, there must be something in him for these clubs to at least shown an interest, why did Valencia buy him in the first place?

[Roar of the Rover]

I know what you’re saying, but there has been a precedent set this summer with Friedel and Bentley going. Now while the later going wasn’t a surprise, two of Rovers key players have left. So it isn’t beyond the realms of fantasy to suggest that RSC might go as well.

Granted it’s all just speculation at the moment, but what if the offer is 'too good to turn down' ala Friedel?

Then Rovers will offer Roque a NEW contract and bump up his wage. We didn't do that with Friedel because he's at a very old age and doesn't have many years left ahead of him and thought Robinson was the better option. Im sure if Brad was ten years younger he wouldn't have left and Rovers would have offered him a btter contract ala Nelsen,Samba,Warnock,McCarthy,Bentley (before he left),Reid and MGP.

[nicko]

nicko.

how is the deal with annan going to arse this week?

Start want a bidding war. they claim no bid has been made. he cannot go on trial. he is on loan already. plesae explain. it most certainly do not add up.

Annan has just been on trial...at Blackburn.

He is due over at Arsenal this week. The exact date of arrival has not been sorted out yet. Stabaek have the UEFA Cup game, so they won't want it t happen before then...so it's down to Wenger to say 'bring him in.'

[Veevs]

Yet everyone is saying were fools for not wanting Annan because Wenger has expressed an interested.

Yet Zigic is a player Wenger was interested in and we'd be fools to be interested in him??

Well surely that can't work both ways.

Youtube isn't the best source thats for sure but there is plenty of videos on there of him showing quality. It may be he is a very patchy player but perhaps the right man can get the best out of him.

Villa were also interested before as well as Arsenal, there must be something in him for these clubs to at least shown an interest, why did Valencia buy him in the first place?

the report on Wenger wanting him was from Jan 2006.. since then Zigic has off the boil quite allot, his goalscoring ratio dropped considerably, he lost the ability to play with the ball at his feet, and seemingly lost allot of motivation.. and at the end of the day Wenger did not bid for him..

Put it another way.. what teams have looked at Annan (Chelsea, Arsenal.. and allot of the big Spanish teams) this year.. and what teams have looked at Zigic this year (Stoke and ?)

[DeadlyDirk]

According to the July Fans Forum minutes.

Season ticket sales where down by about 2000 bla.bla.bla.

The way things are going Thaksin as more chance of his assets being unfrozen, as we have of matching last seasons sales.

The mind boggles, I have never been so confused about the type of players our managers have sought to bring in.

On todays game, was it the weather, or are the fans showing there discontent with Ince's appointment, and actions, by not turning out.

Mind you, since when did Ince give a sh!t what the fans thought of him.(WHU)

He has to have a chance, but he really is not making it easy for himself.

He explained recentley in Four Four Two that the West Ham incident wasn't his fault. A naive mistake as a youngster and a bad agent.

[TrentVilla]

Yet everyone is saying were fools for not wanting Annan because Wenger has expressed an interested.

Yet Zigic is a player Wenger was interested in and we'd be fools to be interested in him??

Well surely that can't work both ways.

Youtube isn't the best source thats for sure but there is plenty of videos on there of him showing quality. It may be he is a very patchy player but perhaps the right man can get the best out of him.

Villa were also interested before as well as Arsenal, there must be something in him for these clubs to at least shown an interest, why did Valencia buy him in the first place?

Honestly Zigic is a poor poor player below the standard you should be looking at.

We were linked with him but MON (who normally never comments on speculation) made a point of coming out to deny our interest in the player. I have no idea about Arsenal being interested the only other club I know for certain looked at him were Pompy who I think even had him on trial and Redknapp described him as not being anywhere near good enough for the Premier League.

[dudedog]

nicko, slightly off topic but whats the deal with gareth barry after tonights press release by liverpool?

[nicko]

VAGNER LOVE...is a loan deal with a view to a permanent signing, by the way.

Somebody asked earlier.

[Eddie]

Wait? A loan deal and we aren't involved?

[DeadlyDirk]

the report on Wenger wanting him was from Jan 2006.. since then Zigic has off the boil quite allot, his goalscoring ratio dropped considerably, he lost the ability to play with the ball at his feet, and seemingly lost allot of motivation.. and at the end of the day Wenger did not bid for him..

Put it another way.. what teams have looked at Annan (Chelsea, Arsenal.. and allot of the big Spanish teams) this year.. and what teams have looked at Zigic this year (Stoke and ?)

At the end of the day Wenger hasn't bidded for Annan either.......

Chelsea were reported to look at him last season because he is a friend of Essien, I haven't heard about the big spanish teams, where have you seen this?

Villa were reported to be looking at him this season, http://www.football.co.uk/aston_villa/vill...ic_268328.shtml

If he lost motivation then maybe he just needs inspiring, the right man could bring it out of him, you don't turn into a bad player over night.

I'm not saying he is the answer or even that he would be a particulary good signing but I just don't like the way everyone jumps on everything Ince does.

[nicko]

nicko, slightly off topic but whats the deal with gareth barry after tonights press release by liverpool?

I am bored stiff with this one.

Liverpool want him - Barry wants to go - Villa want the money now.

Now it's a matter of Liverpool selling a couple of make way for a new arrival and get some cash in.

I've got to say I don't see why Benitez needs him unless Alonso is going.

But nothing in football these days makes much sense.

[Silencio]

He explained recentley in Four Four Two that the West Ham incident wasn't his fault. A naive mistake as a youngster and a bad agent.

DD are you Ince's wife or something? How can you support this muppet and have such a laissez faire attitude?

[DeadlyDirk]

DD are you Ince's wife or something? How can you support this muppet and have such a laissez faire attitude?

I just don't get all the bashing before the season has even begun, what has he done that is so wrong?

Don't question my attitude because I love this club but we have to at least give him a chance, or as everyone else wants to why don't we sack him with less than a week to go before the season starts and put whatever staff Hughes left behind in temporary charge shall we?

[TrentVilla]

Villa were reported to be looking at him this season, http://www.football.co.uk/aston_villa/vill...ic_268328.shtml

No we weren't MON made a point of saying this link was rubbish.

[thenodrog]

Oh boy this lot of information is likely to go down like titanic here..

Annan - I just dont understand it, he is an unknown really but given he wanted to join, and Wenger is keen on him.... its not like risking 2m plus on a 3rd division player who is 28 and had failed in his last attempt in the league?

Andrews - Above says it all, if Ince wants him that bad and has been targeting midfielders for weeks.. obviously Ince feels he is first team material..

Zigic.. not totally sure on this one to be honest.. he isnt too bad but isnt he getting on a little at 27, he is hardly one for the future.. plus since leaving red star his goal ratio dropped quite allot.. been at Valancia for a year after signing for 20mil Euros but only got 18 games?

So no one else has been mentioned for that main CM role.. or RM role???? Baysse, Annan, Sable.. etc all in and straight out...

I am backing Ince..

After reading all that...... Why?

[DeadlyDirk]

No we weren't MON made a point of saying this link was rubbish.

I said you were reported to have, as the article states.

Exactly the same as Blackburn at the moment, I don't see anyone from the club confirming the story.

[Veevs]

At the end of the day Wenger hasn't bidded for Annan either.......

Chelsea were reported to look at him last season because he is a friend of Essien, I haven't heard about the big spanish teams, where have you seen this?

Villa were reported to be looking at him this season, http://www.football.co.uk/aston_villa/vill...ic_268328.shtml

If he lost motivation then maybe he just needs inspiring, the right man could bring it out of him, you don't turn into a bad player over night.

I'm not saying he is the answer or even that he would be a particulary good signing but I just don't like the way everyone jumps on everything Ince does.

In this case this was a mistake on my part.. was two League one french teams, Villa, Midd, Chelsea, B Dortmund...

But mate.. can Zigic play with RSC? two 6ft players up front.. well I guess it may help our set peices if they are both playing but may effect the rest of our game...

Then again Ince may be going for a totally new formation with two holding strikers and as many attacking midfielders as he can get his hands on.. ??

[DeadlyDirk]

In this case this was a mistake on my part.. was two League one french teams, Villa, Midd, Chelsea, B Dortmund...

But mate.. can Zigic play with RSC? two 6ft players up front.. well I guess it may help our set peices if they are both playing but may effect the rest of our game...

Then again Ince may be going for a totally new formation with two holding strikers and as many attacking midfielders as he can get his hands on.. ??

Well as I've said, not saying Zigic is the right man for the job but it wouldn't be such a bad thing having Santa Cruz being the one playing off someone. He's far too talented to simply be used as a holding striker.

It all depends on the price to be honest, if its relatively low or a loan deal then it might be worth a look.

[TrentVilla]

It all depends on the price to be honest, if its relatively low or a loan deal then it might be worth a look.

Honestly I don't think he would he is a very very average player.

[Veevs]

VAGNER LOVE...is a loan deal with a view to a permanent signing, by the way.

Somebody asked earlier.

That sounds a nice little deal there.. lucky little blighters..

[rover6]

Did Wenger ever want to sign Zigic?

“No,” replied the Arsenal manager when asked if he wanted Zigic. “I admit we have seen him, but we already have a young Zigic in our youth team. Bendtner.”

Taken from the Gunners' official website from a page written in 2006.

[RevidgeBlue]

ROQUE - NO bid from Villa. Yet.

Roque is going nowhere, so why do you stir up disquiet, by mentioning something that hasn't happened?

You could equally mention that none of the other 18 Premier League clubs have bid for him either.

What day was it Warnock signed for Newcastle again by the way?

Really don't understand your agenda recently.

[BRFC1995]

Benni = offers lttle, rarely interested.........Zigic = could potentially offer something or potentially not but probably still more than Benni.

Andrews = just sign him and get over it, i'd be staggered if he were'nt at least better than moko anyway

Larsson seems to be making bentley style noises to get out of brum, which could be very good for us.

Throw in the mess at city and it really ain't the worst days news.

[hawkiiz]

Annan has just been on trial...at Blackburn.

He is due over at Arsenal this week. The exact date of arrival has not been sorted out yet. Stabaek have the UEFA Cup game, so they won't want it t happen before then...so it's down to Wenger to say 'bring him in.'

but stabæk have no say in this. Start own him. they have said he CANNOT go on trial anywhere else. they have told every interrested party to watch him this weekend. and no bid have been made, if Svein mathisen is to be trusted - which he is.

annan is on loan. start need money, and want a bid-war. if arse have made a bid Start would have made sure it was known all over europe.

and the "annan is wanted by arse" is agent talk. svein mathisen said "some agent told me arsenal wants him"

i have a feeling your norwegian source is doing a poor job.

[altheblue]

VAGNER LOVE...is a loan deal with a view to a permanent signing, by the way.

Somebody asked earlier.

Really? That would be a good buy for us. What are the odds on it happening? Im a Everton fan but got into trouble with your mods before for posting a question maybe I wasnt entitled to post to Nicko!

Anyway, hope it'll be a good game next week! Everton and Blackburn seem to be huffing and puffing a bit this summer. Bit like Heskey, all talk but no end product!!!!

I think Robinson is a good buy for you lads, still have him as England number one over James.

What do you make of Ince?