[Archived] Keith Andrews - Rovers Newest Signing

[jim mk2]

I thought Pedersen did well on Saturday.

Me too. Excellent match by the Norwegian wing wizard.

By gum I enjoyed Saturday's game ... a Rovers triumph achieved with good flowing football and despite the presence of the distinctly average Andrews in a midfield. I hope the Irish footballing imposter could hear me booing his every touch from my eyrie on the back row !

[alexanders]

Me too. Excellent match by the Norwegian wing wizard.

By gum I enjoyed Saturday's game ... a Rovers triumph achieved with good flowing football and despite the presence of the distinctly average Andrews in a midfield. I hope the Irish footballing imposter could hear me booing his every touch from my eyrie on the back row !

Darmn. You are a tough guy.

[Ricky]

Surely you could see that Jim was trolling and fishing for a comeback??

Andrews was the Mirrors man of the match in their match report on Sunday so he definitely couldnt have been too bad.

[den]

Surely you could see that Jim was trolling and fishing for a comeback??

Andrews was the Mirrors man of the match in their match report on Sunday so he definitely couldnt have been too bad.

The mirror was wrong then Ricky?

No Andrews wasn't bad, but I honestly think the other midfielders offered more.

[broadsword]

Who is this Keith Andrews?

Never heard of the guy.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Why not? It's a hell of a lot easier to play well against a weakened, very poor Wolves midfield, than it is against say, Chelsea. It does make a difference unless it's a matter of defending the obvious.

Oh and I thought Pedersen did well on Saturday.

So why not post something diminishing the contribution of all the players then? Why does Andrews just get it? Why not post 'Pedersen played well, but it was only against a poor Wolves'?

After 140 posts on this thread I think you have made your position clear, though I'm not sure the previous 139 added much, but I'm sure you'll keep up the good work.

[den]

So why not post something diminishing the contribution of all the players then? Why does Andrews just get it? Why not post 'Pedersen played well, but it was only against a poor Wolves'?

After 140 posts on this thread I think you have made your position clear, though I'm not sure the previous 139 added much, but I'm sure you'll keep up the good work.

What on earth are you trying to prove EIT? What exactly has Andrews "got"? I said he did OK, but IMO the other midfielders were better. Dunn was brilliant. Diouff could have won the MOTM according to plenty on here, Grella had possibly his best game so far and Ped did well also.

Instead of throwing a hissy when anyone dares to give an opinion that might not show him to be the best midfielder at the club, get a bit of reality on the game. Say it as you see it. - If you think Andrews was as good as Dunn for instance, then say so.

[tcj_jones]

That's a good post, Den.

[Jonnolad]

Dunn was brilliant.

But it was only Wolves

That's a good post, Den.

At least have a bit of pride eh - I'm surprised you aren't offering him a reach round

[Jonnolad]

Truly staggering this thread, it really is.

I think darren Peacock was a really poor footballer, but he was regularly picked in the Premiership by Roy Hodgson and Kevin Keegan. both of whom presumably know more about football than me.

I'd be interested to hear what jonnolad thinks, am I in the wrong on this one and Darren was in fact a "Premiership class" defender, and not a poor player because Roy and Kevin regularly picked him to start?

So your logic is Darren Peacock was really poor but he was picked by Roy Hodgson and Kevin Keegan, therefore showing that top managers make mistakes, and that's the same situation with Keith Andrews with Sam Allardyce and Trappatoni (and Roy Hodgson again) - everyone makes mistakes and this is their mistake.

In other words you know better than Sam Allardyce (but only when it comes to Keith Andrews), you can see an apparently glaring mistake and Sam Allardyce can't. It's funny because I've been asking that question directly now for some time ("do you know better than Sam Allardyce?") but mysteriously nobody wanted to answer. So it's obviously good that you've now answered that - and it turns out you do know better than Sam Allardyce after all.

Case closed Columbo

One small thing Bryan - I couldn't help noticing that back in Feb you said you'd never actually seen Keith play except on the telly - is that still the case? Now call me old fashioned but I personally wouldn't think you'd be able to give as balanced a view on a player if you'd only watched the odd game on the telly but if you think you do that's fair enough - perhaps Sam needs to sit at home on match day and he might be able to spot those glaring mistakes himself!

Incidentally do you think Newcastle fans view on Peacock is the same as yours?

This. You've won the entire thread.

Sam might well be the right man for the job at the moment, but it doesn't mean he is 100% perfect in his every decision (as proven last week against West Ham).

I think this will suffice nicely -

[Jonnolad]

Who is this Keith Andrews?

Never heard of the guy.

I just think you need to turn the volume up on your telly then.

[den]

I eagerly await Bryan's reply.

[Parsonblue]

My own view of Andrews is that he is a player who will give 100 per cent, rather like Mokoena, and put himself about the pitch - similar to, but not as good as Robbie Savage. I think the real weakness in his game at the moment is his distribution. For a playmaker in midfield, he gives the ball away rather too easily for my liking. However, like Mokoena you have to admire a guy who, although maybe limited in ability, makes the most of his talent. Clearly, Andrews played far more games last season than he even he propably expected to do and he has forced his way into the international team. The guy deserves credit for his sheer determination to succeed at a higher level.

However, once everyone is fully fit it will be interesting to see what role he occupies. I suspect that he will be a useful man to have on the bench, in the same way that Mokoena was used, as he would be able to cover two or three positions.

[broadsword]

So your logic is Darren Peacock was really poor but he was picked by Roy Hodgson and Kevin Keegan, therefore showing that top managers make mistakes, and that's the same situation with Keith Andrews with Sam Allardyce and Trappatoni (and Roy Hodgson again) - everyone makes mistakes and this is their mistake.

In other words you know better than Sam Allardyce (but only when it comes to Keith Andrews), you can see an apparently glaring mistake and Sam Allardyce can't. It's funny because I've been asking that question directly now for some time ("do you know better than Sam Allardyce?") but mysteriously nobody wanted to answer. So it's obviously good that you've now answered that - and it turns out you do know better than Sam Allardyce after all.

Incidentally do you think Newcastle fans view on Peacock is the same as yours?

I think this will suffice nicely -

You haven't answered my question at all, have you?

[broadsword]

Incidentally do you think Newcastle fans view on Peacock is the same as yours?

I think this will suffice nicely -

I don't know, but I do know what they thought of Allardyce.

Perhaps they're not the best witnesses for the defence?

[Jonnolad]

You haven't answered my question at all, have you?

Eh? You want me to answer if I think Peacock was a decent player? Well I seem to recall he wasn't exactly amazing for us - and that was when he could stay fit.

What do you think though? Did he look good on the telly when you saw him

[jim mk2]

You haven't answered my question at all, have you?

Nothing new there then.

He also refuses to make an honest declaration of interest in the player.

The conclusion must be that he either cannot read or has learning difficulties. Probably both.

[S15]

Johnno and Spencey don't answer questions, they just twist what you write into a four long winded paragraph post ending with a smug punch line which further puts not their age, but certainly their sanity/ or intelligence into question.

[Jonnolad]

I don't know, but I do know what they thought of Allardyce.

Yeah them Newcastle fans know a good manager when they have one and no mistaking.

Where are they again in the league, I forget?

[S15]

Yeah them Newcastle fans know a good manager when they have one and no mistaking.

Where are they again in the league, I forget?

Ten places below where Allardyce left them.

Oh, and in a different division as a result. Try again.

[broadsword]

Eh? You want me to answer if I think Peacock was a decent player? Well I seem to recall he wasn't exactly amazing for us - and that was when he could stay fit.

What do you think though? Did he look good on the telly when you saw him

Personal circumstances mean that I can't make that many games, I'm glad you find that amusing.

Nicely vague answer, the point I'm making is that should he have made as many appearances as he did in the Premiership, or did he make far more than his talent deserved?

Yeah them Newcastle fans know a good manager when they have one and no mistaking.

Where are they again in the league, I forget?

So if I ask them about Allardyce, i'll get a cock-eyed response which isn't worth paying attention to. But I can ask them about Peacock so long as I get a positive response.?

[Jonnolad]

Nothing new there then.

He also refuses to make an honest declaration of interest in the player.

The conclusion must be that he either cannot read or has learning difficulties. Probably both.

Ah Jim - I don't know what it is but I sense real anger from you, real anger.

Deep breaths, it's only the internet. Push out the jive, bring in the love

Johnno and Spencey don't answer questions, they just twist what you write into a four long winded paragraph post ending with a smug punch line which further puts not their age, but certainly their sanity/ or intelligence into question.

To me, to you, to me, to you.

It's like debating with the chuckle brothers. Which one are you though? It'll be Barry if I was to hazard a guess!

[S15]

To me, to you, to me, to you.

It's like debating with the chuckle brothers. Which one are you though? It'll be Barry if I was to hazard a guess!

Beats being Vicky Pollard.

[Jonnolad]

Personal circumstances mean that I can't make that many games, I'm glad you find that amusing.

Nah - I find it amusing that you think you know more than our manager when in fairness at least he gets to see the players in the flesh.

Nicely vague answer, the point I'm making is that should he have made as many appearances as he did in the Premiership, or did he make far more than his talent deserved?

And your point is therefore .......managers make mistakes. QED Allardyce has made a mistake with Andrews. In other words you know more than Allardyce (albeit just when it comes to Andrews)? To be honest it's not rocket science so I'm surprised you find it so hard to follow.

Like I said though, you must be able to see an awful lot on that telly, and I'll therefore stand by my suggestion that Sam should perhaps watch the games at home as he's clearly missing some extremely obvious mistakes by going down Ewood instead.

[S15]

Johnno..

Is Andrews a good passer?

Is Andrews a good tackler?

Is Andrews a good dribbler?

Is Andrews good in the air?

Is Andrews a good goalscorer?

Is Andrews a good play maker?

Is Andrews a good set piece player?

Answer all yes or no please, my answer to them all is no. Let's try and break this down, and simplify it for you shall we?

Johnno, you never answered this one..

Fancy another go? It's dead simple.