[Archived] Keith Andrews - Rovers Newest Signing

[Blue blood]

Did Andrews play well in a premier league game against premier league opposition? Yes he did.that's your opinion, not mine

AGREED BUT MOST PEOPLE ON HERE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE DID NOT LOOK THE SAME WHEN HE LEFT THE FIELD AND HAS PLAYED QUITE WELL IN THE PREVIOUS GAMES.

Being selected doesn't mean that you are good enough to be selected for a premier league team - just the manager's judgement that you are. And it's not like Ince hasn't been mistaken on other things is it?

Would Reid, Aaron. M instill any fear in the opposition? I still think Reid is a decent midfield player, judge the players on their performances not where they have come from.What has the form of Reid or Mokoena got to do with Andrews?

YOU ASKED THE QUESTION DID YOU NOT, WHETHER THE OPPOSITION WOULD BE AFRAID OF ANDREWS IN THE LINE UP, I GAVE YOU TWO PLAYERS WHO MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT INSTILL FEAR, ONE OF WHOM IMO IS A DECENT MIDFIELD PLAYER FOR US- POINT? IT IS IRRELEVANT WHAT OPPOSITION PLAYERS THINK, IT IS WHAT THE PLAYER DOES FOR ROVERS.

Actually I think you'll find that a fair few players are wary of a clattering from the Axe, and that he disrupts their game. Oh and the Axe has on the whole been good for us this season. Andrews hasn't done badly for us, but hailing him as a super signing who has excelled since joining is streching it. And that is what signings should do - improve the team.

I find it quite annoying that the level of stick Andrews is getting even though he is playing well. MGP has been dire for TWO years yet people (generally) are not against him.There is a lot of criticism of MGP, imy. Don't you read the threads?

I DO READ THE THREADS AND THERE IS NO RESEMBLANCE BETWEEN THE TREATMENT OF MGP AND ANDREWS. ANDREWS HITS A SHOT OVER THE BAR AND HE IS BOOED BY HIS OWN FANS! MGP GETS HIS FAIR SHARE OF CRITICISM- IT IS EXACTLY THAT, FAIR. ANDREWS HAS PLAYED WELL/CAN PLAY WELL AND HE STILL RECEIVES ABUSE BECAUSE HE IS FROM A LEAGUE 1 CLUB- CHECK OUT THE ANDREWS THREAD, THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS MAKING.

actually as a longer time poster, MGP has had much more stick and people jumped on his back very quickly - and given his cracking work rate I'd say that he gets more than his fair share of stick. Also we know that Peds can/has been and could well be again a cracking player for us and score some fantastic goals. Can't say that people have the same hopes for Andrews, or any evidence that he will be an asset to the team.

[den]

OK imy, I'm not going to argue with you and maybe I didn't put my views across very well.

The words I keep hearing from people who support his signing are: good squad player. OK for the money. Neat and tidy, get's up and down etc, etc. You could put that kind of endorsement for any footballer, in any league. If they're none of those, they shouldn't be playing the game.

[FourLaneBlue]

Yes den but I do not think you can expect or demand much more than that for an 800k outlay.

Grella, IMO, has been if anything less impressive so far the Andrews albeit hampered by injury. Yet he cost what...five times more and is older?

Both might turn out to be successes/flops for Rovers but Andrews seems to be given less benefit of the doubt than others.

[den]

Yes den but I do not think you can expect or demand much more than that for an 800k outlay.

Exactly FLB.

[imy9]

OK imy, I'm not going to argue with you and maybe I didn't put my views across very well.

The words I keep hearing from people who support his signing are: good squad player. OK for the money. Neat and tidy, get's up and down etc, etc. You could put that kind of endorsement for any footballer, in any league. If they're none of those, they shouldn't be playing the game.

I appreciate what you are saying Den, I would like PI to aim higher and purchase proven quality but he signed Andrews and he has looked decent so far and has done little for me to dislike him.

What you said about Andrews is probably the best that can be said about Andrews after a dozen games because it is too early to make a proper judgement on him, that would be nearer the end of the season.

The points made about Andrews i.e. he is neat and tidy, gets up and down, works hard etc should mean that Rovers fans should give him a chance now. The level of hatred for the lad is undeserved IMO (starting before he joined us) and if he turns out to be a flop so be it, but that would then be PI's fault not his!

[Exiled in Toronto]

OK imy, I'm not going to argue with you and maybe I didn't put my views across very well.

The words I keep hearing from people who support his signing are: good squad player. OK for the money. Neat and tidy, get's up and down etc, etc. You could put that kind of endorsement for any footballer, in any league. If they're none of those, they shouldn't be playing the game.

So are you saying that you agree with a player with those attributes being booed at Ewood when in the team because of injuries to the first-teamers? (not that I expect an unequivocal answer)

Personally I find it incredible that Blackburn Rovers fans boo someone who puts in a shift every time and has largely risen to the challenge of being thrown into the deep-end because of injuries to Dunn, Reid and Grella. When did it become OK for us to disdain those attributes and sound like spoilt big-time charlies?

No wonder Burnley fans take the p!ss

[den]

So are you saying that you agree with a player with those attributes being booed at Ewood when in the team because of injuries to the first-teamers? (not that I expect an unequivocal answer)

What on earth lead you to believe that I agreed with people booing him EIT?** I don't agree with it, - BUT a professional footballer must deal with these situations. Any decent manager would tell a player in that position to go out and show them they're wrong.

**unequivocal answer please.

[Exiled in Toronto]

What on earth lead you to believe that I agreed with people booing him EIT?** I don't agree with it, - BUT a professional footballer must deal with these situations. Any decent manager would tell a player in that position to go out and show them they're wrong.

**unequivocal answer please.

Glad to hear you condemn the booing of an honest trier - I asked because I wasn't sure.

But the real question is why you feel an honest trier has to deal with these situations? How many other honest triers have been put in this situation by the fans? Not one in my 40-odd years of watching. In fact Andrews is the only honest trier who I have ever seen booed is in this situation and that seems solely because of who signed him from where.

But I don't think anyone should have to deal with that particular situation - it makes me embarrassed to be a Rovers fan to be associated with people who think it's OK that a player have to deal with being booed not for performances, effort or attitude, but because of where he came from.

It's like the old days of saying I condemn racism but any professional should be able to deal with having bananas thrown at them.

Personally I think he is coping with it admirably, but it disgusts me to see it happening.

[den]

But the real question is why you feel an honest trier has to deal with these situations? How many other honest triers have been put in this situation by the fans? Not one in my 40-odd years of watching.

Well, because he has.

Sorry to be flippant EIT, but players being booed by their own fans has been happening for as long as football's been played. It's happened to loads of Rovers players over the years. It got to the stage with Jimmy Quinn where he was booed every time he touched the ball. It's happened at all clubs as well. Alan Spavin used to get annihilated by the North enders.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Well, because he has.

Sorry to be flippant EIT, but players being booed by their own fans has been happening for as long as football's been played. It's happened to loads of Rovers players over the years. It got to the stage with Jimmy Quinn where he was booed every time he touched the ball. It's happened at all clubs as well. Alan Spavin used to get annihilated by the North enders.

You're ignoring the point. Players have been booed for being crap, overwieght, slow, not trying, arrogant and so on. Andrews is none of those so how is he supposed to respond to the booing? What is the point of it? What aspect of his play would you expect him to work on to win over these people? We might as well boo someone for being black if it is normal and acceptable to boo someone for their background as opposed to some aspect of their performance.

I think it just shows up the 'fans' as being spoilt and thinking we are way above our station. You seem to think it is normal and OK.

Anyway, I digress. Since you have such a downer on the bloke, who would you have preferred as a realistic option for the 4th choice midfielder? Carrick perhaps? Lampard?

[OJRovers]

den - which of our midfielders has been better than Andrews this season then?

[den]

You're ignoring the point. Players have been booed for being crap, overwieght, slow, not trying, arrogant and so on. Andrews is none of those so how is he supposed to respond to the booing?

I answered that earlier. Go out and prove them wrong. That's all he can do.

den - which of our midfielders has been better than Andrews this season then?

What are we trying to prove here OJ? Andrews is Andrews, no matter how anyone else has played.

However, since you asked - Emerton, Tugay, Warnock, Mokoena, Dunn, Reid.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Who gives a sh!te if he played well, he comes from League 2 and so should not be playing.

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[Exiled in Toronto]

I answered that earlier. Go out and prove them wrong. That's all he can do.

How can he prove them wrong? He did in fact come from MK Dons which is why he is being booed!

[Bing]

Keith Andrews is a better footballer than Reid or Mokoena. In every game he's played he has tried to do the right things - passing and then making a new angle, always looking to get on the ball, getting forward and having efforts at goal.

In a team that was settled, balanced and properly drilled he'd be a good asset.

[FourLaneBlue]

How can he prove them wrong? He did in fact come from MK Dons which is why he is being booed!

He can only shove their boos down their throats by playing well. As far as I can see den did not suggest that it was right to boo a player but just that he had to deal with it as it was there.

[grizfoot]

Behind Samba he was our best player against Sunderland. I remember one 25 yard pin-point pass he picked out that Tugay would have been proud of and let's not forget it was his header that set-up what should have been a goal for Warnock. Then there was a well taken free-kick that tested the Sunderland keeper. Considering he was out of position I thought it was an impressive performance from him.

Makes me upset when I hear Rovers fans shout abuse at the one Andrews pass that went astray and out of play when the majority of his passing had been good. Then you had the likes of Warnock, Ooijer and Simpson giving the ball away at will.

It just goes to show how biased some of you are against the lad that you seriously think that Mokeona and Reid have played better than him this season. Reidy was terrible in the games he played before his inury and Mokeona as no where near the amount of skill that Andrews offers.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

I completely forgot about that free kick. If it was a little higher it would have been a belter.

[JAL]

Keith Andrews is a better footballer than Reid or Mokoena. In every game he's played he has tried to do the right things - passing and then making a new angle, always looking to get on the ball, getting forward and having efforts at goal.

In a team that was settled, balanced and properly drilled he'd be a good asset.

I like your use of the word 'tries' that word sums Keith Andrews up nicely. Tries but never succeeds, the pro Andrews fans have some very scary opinions for me were do you want Rovers to be playing thats the question I pose to you lot because he aint premiership standard unless that is you dont want to see us playing in the premiership.

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Always remember Ashley Ward trying and a few others of that ilk in the blue and white colours.

Behind Samba he was our best player against Sunderland. I remember one 25 yard pin-point pass he picked out that Tugay would have been proud of and let's not forget it was his header that set-up what should have been a goal for Warnock. Then there was a well taken free-kick that tested the Sunderland keeper. Considering he was out of position I thought it was an impressive performance from him.

Makes me upset when I hear Rovers fans shout abuse at the one Andrews pass that went astray and out of play when the majority of his passing had been good. Then you had the likes of Warnock, Ooijer and Simpson giving the ball away at will.

It just goes to show how biased some of you are against the lad that you seriously think that Mokeona and Reid have played better than him this season. Reidy was terrible in the games he played before his inury and Mokeona as no where near the amount of skill that Andrews offers.

So why was he subbed and has been lambasted by his manager WHY ?

What you say and what happened dont marry up!

He can only shove their boos down their throats by playing well. As far as I can see den did not suggest that it was right to boo a player but just that he had to deal with it as it was there.

I never heard any boos for Keith Andrews sitting in the riverside so who did boo and were did it come from.

[bazza]

Behind Samba he was our best player against Sunderland. I remember one 25 yard pin-point pass he picked out that Tugay would have been proud of and let's not forget it was his header that set-up what should have been a goal for Warnock. Then there was a well taken free-kick that tested the Sunderland keeper. Considering he was out of position I thought it was an impressive performance from him.

Makes me upset when I hear Rovers fans shout abuse at the one Andrews pass that went astray and out of play when the majority of his passing had been good. Then you had the likes of Warnock, Ooijer and Simpson giving the ball away at will.

It just goes to show how biased some of you are against the lad that you seriously think that Mokeona and Reid have played better than him this season. Reidy was terrible in the games he played before his inury and Mokeona as no where near the amount of skill that Andrews offers.

Well said, Grizfoot. I was beginning to think I was the only one to see the quality in Andrews.

He has so far shown to me that he CAN play a good game of football. He maybe a bit off the pace but his reading of the game, his passes, his goal scoring positions ( a la Sherwood, Flitcroft and Atkins) are commendable.

[grizfoot]

So why was he subbed and has been lambasted by his manager WHY ?

What you say and what happened dont marry up!

I suppose it was Ince's attempt at trying to win the game by bringing on some more attacking options in Derbyshire and Villanueva. Albeit in some kind of odd shaped 4-5-1, which just seemed to make things worse.

Also Andrews went off injured at half time against Chelsea did he not and therefore probably wasn't fully fit to play the full ninety.

[Amo]

So why was he subbed and has been lambasted by his manager WHY ?

For trying those silky Brazilian skills.

[AndyC]

I answered that earlier. Go out and prove them wrong. That's all he can do.

What are we trying to prove here OJ? Andrews is Andrews, no matter how anyone else has played.

However, since you asked - Emerton, Tugay, Warnock, Mokoena, Dunn, Reid.

den, i can understand most of the points you put across, but i do think you're cutting your nose off, to spite your face on andrews. He was the 2nd best player on the pitch in the first half.

to say he hasnt got the quality to be playing well in a top 10 football side, just shows the ignorance of some football fans.........in my opinion ;-)

[American Rover12]

I answered that earlier. Go out and prove them wrong. That's all he can do.

What are we trying to prove here OJ? Andrews is Andrews, no matter how anyone else has played.

However, since you asked - Emerton, Tugay, Warnock, Mokoena, Dunn, Reid.

You've lost all credibility with that comment in this argument. Ouch.

[den]

You've lost all credibility with that comment in this argument. Ouch.

I knew that would get a reaction.

However, it was a silly question "who's been better than Andrews this season"? At what?