[Archived] Keith Andrews - Rovers Newest Signing

[JAL]

I suppose it was Ince's attempt at trying to win the game by bringing on some more attacking options in Derbyshire and Villanueva. Albeit in some kind of odd shaped 4-5-1, which just seemed to make things worse.

Also Andrews went off injured at half time against Chelsea did he not and therefore probably wasn't fully fit to play the full ninety.

I'm still very sceptical on 'that injury' against Chesea line as for me right up until the last minute of the first half against Chelsea he looked as mobile as he ever is- wonder if its an excuse to protect the lads credibility and the managers.

Should not Andrews be an attacking option, this is one of the reasons why I dont rate him for me he has no stand out drive in the centre of midfield, no silky skills his passing is of an average professional, no physical advantage in height, speed etc., his control of the ball is nowhere near as good as Tugays and I'm still trying to figure out what his key tricks are as he runs around like an omnitron on the pitch.

Signing this lad along with Fowler has got Paul Ince off on the wrong foot right from the start of his Ewood Park managerial career and if Ince carries on along like this the clamour for change will be inevitable.

[rover6]

Should not Andrews be an attacking option, this is one of the reasons why I dont rate him for me he has no stand out drive in the centre of midfield, no silky skills his passing is of an average professional, no physical advantage in height, speed etc., his control of the ball is nowhere near as good as Tugays and I'm still trying to figure out what his key tricks are as he runs around like an omnitron on the pitch.

That description fits a certain Afghan hound-looking Welshman, and he had a half-decent Premier League career. Still rated in these parts, allegedly.

I think Andrews can be effective if given a run in a settled team. The problem with our season, as well as with Andrews, is that everything's been higgledy-piggledly, to use a technical term.

Andrews has played as a deep CM, the attack CM, RM, sub, off at half-time in a amorphous line-up.

[den]

He can only shove their boos down their throats by playing well. As far as I can see den did not suggest that it was right to boo a player but just that he had to deal with it as it was there.

Thanks FLB. That's twice you've cleared my posts up for another poster. Do you do scriptwriting?

[JAL]

That description fits a certain Afghan hound-looking Welshman, and he had a half-decent Premier League career. Still rated in these parts, allegedly.

I think Andrews can be effective if given a run in a settled team. The problem with our season, as well as with Andrews, is that everything's been higgledy-piggledly, to use a technical term.

Andrews has played as a deep CM, the attack CM, RM, sub, off at half-time in a amorphous line-up.

The key is rover6 i'm searching for something in Keith Andrews alone thats out of the ordinary that can influence more victories for Rovers in the premier league and I aint seeing anything to fulfill that remit.

[AggyBlue]

The key is rover6 i'm searching for something in Keith Andrews alone thats out of the ordinary that can influence more victories for Rovers in the premier league and I aint seeing anything to fulfill that remit.

No Rovers players fulfill that remit, but why are you surprised when a bargain basement buy doesn't.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

The key is rover6 i'm searching for something in Keith Andrews alone thats out of the ordinary that can influence more victories for Rovers in the premier league and I aint seeing anything to fulfill that remit.

Andrews stands alone in Rovers squad as a midfielder who can get into the box and have a go at goal. No other CM at present does that for rovers.

No Rovers player at present is out of ordinary so stop picking on the new boy. It is not his fault that the manager went out on a limb to sign him then plays him in positions that don't suit him.

Again he was far from the worse player on Saturday.

[Bing]

I like your use of the word 'tries' that word sums Keith Andrews up nicely. Tries but never succeeds, the pro Andrews fans have some very scary opinions for me were do you want Rovers to be playing thats the question I pose to you lot because he aint premiership standard unless that is you dont want to see us playing in the premiership.

You're arguing semantics. He always tries to do things that a proper midfielder should do and a good proportion of the time he does them well. Of course he's going to give the ball away the odd time - if he didn't he'd be Paul Scholes.

He's got much more to his game though than Reid or Mokoena who are nowhere near being Premier League quality central midfield players.

[den]

He's got much more to his game though than Reid or Mokoena who are nowhere near being Premier League quality central midfield players.

A fully fit Reid offers far more than Andrews. Not fair to compare a fit Andrews with Reid who hasn't been fit for two years.

Also, if you want someone to come on for the last half hour, sit in front of the back four to protect a lead, then Mokoena every time.

Silly trying to make comparisons.

[BuckyRover]

Where do we find this "fully fit" Reid?

Answers on a postcard please

[JAL]

You're arguing semantics. He always tries to do things that a proper midfielder should do and a good proportion of the time he does them well. Of course he's going to give the ball away the odd time - if he didn't he'd be Paul Scholes.

He's got much more to his game though than Reid or Mokoena who are nowhere near being Premier League quality central midfield players.

So when does he move the ball around effectively looking in command of the situation putting a foot in stopping the opposition looking your complete all action central midfielder going from box to box in an instance, sorry, but I haventy seen that in Keith Andrews though the chances of him being that type of player at a lower level could be greater.

Comparing Steven Reid with Keith Andrews is a good one take away Reidys injuries whats he got over Andrews.

1. Hes bigger, fitter, more of an athlete, faster.

2. He can pass the ball a over longer range with greater accuracy.

3. Hes more felexible playing FB, RM or CM with greater effect.

The axe has more PRESENCE than Andrews though its highly subjective about his skills level.

I accept that when your shopping in the bargain bucket department then you cant expect anything higher than what Andrews has to offer.

Again he was far from the worse player on Saturday.

Would you not agree that along with Roberts the worst players on saturday were all Paul Inces signings.

[CrazyIvan]

Would you not agree that along with Roberts the worst players on saturday were all Paul Inces signings.

No, definitely not. Warnock had a shocker, Mokoena wasn't great... The ONLY player that actually played well was Chris Samba. Roque didn't have a bad game but he wasn't in it for large sections of it.

[JAL]

No, definitely not. Warnock had a shocker, Mokoena wasn't great... The ONLY player that actually played well was Chris Samba. Roque didn't have a bad game but he wasn't in it for large sections of it.

Yes forgot about stand in skipper Steven Warnock that was a disgraceful performance from any captain we've had to witness at Ewood Park in many a year, when he kicked the ball striaght out of play instead of to Matty Derbyshire summed him up.

[Majiball]

The key is rover6 i'm searching for something in Keith Andrews alone thats out of the ordinary that can influence more victories for Rovers in the premier league and I aint seeing anything to fulfill that remit.

I would never have had you down as a "life long quest" type of person.

[gazsimm]

to be fair to Andrews, i don't think he has not done to bad in his short career at Rovers. He looks very tidy in his passing and always trys to get forward. He needs to play CM rather then RW though were he played on saturday.

[OJRovers]

However, it was a silly question "who's been better than Andrews this season"? At what?

I think it was an obvious question, ie who has played best for rovers this year.

How can you say that Reid and Mokoena have been better than Andrews this year? Are you on a wind-up? Have you been to the games?

My point is that although Andrews hasn't been overly brilliant (no-one has), he hasn't been any worse than the rest of our midfield, yet he has been singled out for abuse and critisism far more than other players.

Why not vent your Ince-hatred at Villeneuva? He has underperformed what was expected from him.

[den]

to be fair to Andrews, i don't think he has not done to bad in his short career at Rovers. He looks very tidy in his passing and always trys to get forward. He needs to play CM rather then RW though were he played on saturday.

OK imy, I'm not going to argue with you and maybe I didn't put my views across very well.

The words I keep hearing from people who support his signing are: good squad player. OK for the money. Neat and tidy, get's up and down etc, etc. You could put that kind of endorsement for any footballer, in any league. If they're none of those, they shouldn't be playing the game.

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[gazsimm]

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i think andrews was bought to be a squad player Den, if Dunn, Reid, Grella and Emerton were not out injured at the moment, he would not be in the team. I think he is a usefull player to have in the squad, but he needs to play CM and not RW like were he played on Saturday

[Frisky Jim]

Andrews is this decade's version of Darren Peacock.

[gazsimm]

Andrews is this decade's version of Darren Peacock.

how can you say that, they play in different postions you prat!!, why don't you go and jump on the band wagon of a top flight 4 team Jim and do us all a favour!!!

[Frisky Jim]

how can you say that, they play in different postions you prat!!, why don't you go and jump on the band wagon of a top flight 4 team Jim and do us all a favour!!!

Peacock was signed as a squad player to back up Hendry. Hendry cleared off to Rangers and the club was left with a vastly inferior player. He played a big part in the relegation that season.

Andrews is playing a big part in this season's shambles. Not suprising really.

[gazsimm]

Peacock was signed as a squad player to back up Hendry. Hendry cleared off to Rangers and the club was left with a vastly inferior player. He played a big part in the relegation that season.

Andrews is playing a big part in this season's shambles. Not suprising really.

I don't think you can put the blame on Andrews, he has done ok i think. I also thought Peacock did an ok job while he was at Rovers , unlike that scottish guy we got from Derby for 6million!!!

[Frisky Jim]

I don't think you can put the blame on Andrews, he has done ok i think. I also thought Peacock did an ok job while he was at Rovers , unlike that scottish guy we got from Derby for 6million!!!

Dailly, Peacock, Davies, Blake... good grief. What was Hodgson drinking?

Then Kidd pipes up and signs Ashley Ward!

[AndyC]

So when does he move the ball around effectively looking in command of the situation putting a foot in stopping the opposition looking your complete all action central midfielder going from box to box in an instance, sorry, but I haventy seen that in Keith Andrews though the chances of him being that type of player at a lower level could be greater.

Comparing Steven Reid with Keith Andrews is a good one take away Reidys injuries whats he got over Andrews.

1. Hes bigger, fitter, more of an athlete, faster. I disagree. I think Andrews has shown more running in 1 game than I've ever seen reid do (inc. pre injury)

2. He can pass the ball a over longer range with greater accuracy. Absolute rubbish. Reid gives the ball away far too often.

3. Hes more felexible playing FB, RM or CM with greater effect. time will tell. he's only played a few games

The axe has more PRESENCE than Andrews though its highly subjective about his skills level. The axe takes 3 touches to bring the ball under control, thus putting himself in danger every time.

I accept that when your shopping in the bargain bucket department then you cant expect anything higher than what Andrews has to offer.

Would you not agree that along with Roberts the worst players on saturday were all Paul Inces signings.

[Jan]

I don't think you can put the blame on Andrews, he has done ok i think. I also thought Peacock did an ok job while he was at Rovers , unlike that scottish guy we got from Derby for 6million!!!

And with that you are officially someone whose opinion is WRONG. There is NO sane person that could possibly say that Peacock was anything other than a totally useless donkey- typified by the sloooooooooooow balls across the penalty box that were oh so inviting for opposition forwards. Dailly was awful, but in an "I can defend for 86 minutes and for 4 I won't understand that the words foot and ball make another word" aka "the Dailly of the day"

[AggyBlue]

A fully fit Reid offers far more than Andrews. ......

Silly trying to make comparisons.

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