[Archived] Keith Andrews - Rovers Newest Signing

[T4E]

So why was he subbed and has been lambasted by his manager WHY ?

Thats the most worrying part of it all. Ince must surely be aware of the criticism Andrews is getting, and while substituting him is one thing, then criticising him in the local press is absolute madness. You'd think he'd be trying to emphasise Andrews qualities at every given opportunity, not join in with the bashing.

I'd imagine that one comment from Ince hurt Andrews far far more than being booed by the fans.

[gumboots]

Thats the most worrying part of it all. Ince must surely be aware of the criticism Andrews is getting, and while substituting him is one thing, then criticising him in the local press is absolute madness. You'd think he'd be trying to emphasise Andrews qualities at every given opportunity, not join in with the bashing.

I'd imagine that one comment from Ince hurt Andrews far far more than being booed by the fans.

And if Ince absolves him from any blame then the criticism of Andrews as Ince's favourite and therefore somehow above criticism would be even mor intense. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

[T4E]

Not at all - he didn't need to bloody comment on him at all! Or Simpson!

[Tris]

And if Ince absolves him from any blame then the criticism of Andrews as Ince's favourite and therefore somehow above criticism would be even mor intense. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Not at all - he didn't need to bloody comment on him at all! Or Simpson!

Just to prove that Ince'll take a slagging on here for anything he says or does - he took a slagging just days ago for talking some players UP in public! I can't remember if Andrews was one of them ... and certainly can't be bothered to look.

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't is exactly right.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

Would you not agree that along with Roberts the worst players on saturday were all Paul Inces signings.

No I don't

Ooijer ..........poor

Derbyshire ....did he touch the ball when he came on

Simpson..........dreadful

Roberts............Please don't get me started

It does not matter if they were Hughes signings or Inces. All 4 were worse than Andrews

[JAL]

Thats the most worrying part of it all. Ince must surely be aware of the criticism Andrews is getting, and while substituting him is one thing, then criticising him in the local press is absolute madness. You'd think he'd be trying to emphasise Andrews qualities at every given opportunity, not join in with the bashing.

I'd imagine that one comment from Ince hurt Andrews far far more than being booed by the fans.

Your dammed right there Tugay4England.

[AggyBlue]

Thats the most worrying part of it all. Ince must surely be aware of the criticism Andrews is getting, and while substituting him is one thing, then criticising him in the local press is absolute madness. You'd think he'd be trying to emphasise Andrews qualities at every given opportunity, not join in with the bashing.

I'd imagine that one comment from Ince hurt Andrews far far more than being booed by the fans.

I'm sure Ince knows the best way to provoke a positive reaction from Andrews, he's worked with him longer than any other player at the club.

But hey, don't let it stop you thinking that you know better, especially if you can have a dig at the clubs manager in the process.

[67splitscreen]

Andrews, could get first cap

Giovanni Trapattoni, obviously knows nothing about football.

Is someone in danger of having to show there bare behind, was it on the Town Hall steps?

[JAL]

Andrews, could get first cap

Giovanni Trapattoni, obviously knows nothing about football.

Is someone in danger of having to show there bare behind, was it on the Town Hall steps?

Well it will at least gaurantee the Irish winning very few games

[T4E]

I'm sure Ince knows the best way to provoke a positive reaction from Andrews, he's worked with him longer than any other player at the club.

But hey, don't let it stop you thinking that you know better, especially if you can have a dig at the clubs manager in the process.

I was just giving an opinion. If you don't like it, try countering it with something valid rather than a cheap dig.

As long as you're sure Ince knows what he's doing them no doubt we've got nothing to worry about.

[gazsimm]

And with that you are officially someone whose opinion is WRONG. There is NO sane person that could possibly say that Peacock was anything other than a totally useless donkey- typified by the sloooooooooooow balls across the penalty box that were oh so inviting for opposition forwards. Dailly was awful, but in an "I can defend for 86 minutes and for 4 I won't understand that the words foot and ball make another word" aka "the Dailly of the day"

i bet you liked his long hair though Jan!!!!!.

[vintageadidas]

Why has Carlos got time? Why has he not been booed? He came from a club on a similar level to MK Dons and in my opinion has contributed far less than Andrews and to top it all off he is for sale at £5m.

Andrews exceeded everyones expectations thus far.

Oh yes, i must also state that he is better Reid. I think Reid is a very poor player since his injury. Reid contributes nothing, get rid!

[den]

Oh yes, i must also state that he is better Reid. I think Reid is a very poor player since his injury.

Well at the moment, I'm better than Reid.

[AndyC]

I was just giving an opinion. If you don't like it, try countering it with something valid rather than a cheap dig.

As long as you're sure Ince knows what he's doing them no doubt we've got nothing to worry about.

he did counter it. he said:

"I'm sure Ince knows the best way to provoke a positive reaction from Andrews, he's worked with him longer than any other player at the club."

how is that not countering it? nce has played with him and managed him for a number of years. I think he's spot on to suggest that Ince knows him inside out.

[gazsimm]

Why has Carlos got time? Why has he not been booed? He came from a club on a similar level to MK Dons and in my opinion has contributed far less than Andrews and to top it all off he is for sale at £5m.

Andrews exceeded everyones expectations thus far.

Oh yes, i must also state that he is better Reid. I think Reid is a very poor player since his injury.

Reid has not put in a good game for Rovers for 2 seasons. I agree with you about Carlos, what has he actually done yet, at least Andrews has played well in most of his games he has played this season, unlike Carlos

[T4E]

he did counter it. he said:

"I'm sure Ince knows the best way to provoke a positive reaction from Andrews, he's worked with him longer than any other player at the club."

how is that not countering it? nce has played with him and managed him for a number of years. I think he's spot on to suggest that Ince knows him inside out.

I guess we'll find out, but criticising him in public doesn't seem like the work of a master motivator. Bear in mind he also criticised Danny Simpson in the same breath - someone he's worked with for 4 months.

[AndyC]

Well it will at least gaurantee the Irish winning very few games

Andrews said: "He [Trapattoni] doesn't really care about reputations or what people have done or haven't done in their careers.

"I was playing in League Two last year and I have only been playing in the Premier League for a few months now, but it doesn't seem to bother him.

"He treats people as he finds them, and it's good for me."

There's a message in their folks. Instead of watching him and waiting for his first mistake - why not go in with an open mind next time.

He made 2 mistakes in the first half against sunderland - that's a fact. Yet he got forward more than anyone else and covered more ground than our other midfielders. His one touch passing was excellent and he could easily have had an excellent assist in the first minute and goal from a free kick.

It's time to give the guy a break. Trapattoni would not be considering him if he wasn't good enough - he's not worked with him before.

Surely you have to respect an opinion like that?

[67splitscreen]

Agree 100%.

Im sure many will still disagree (it's only Ireland and all that, where's the competition for places).

He's on the verge of playing for his country, A proud moment for anyone irrespective of FIFA world rankings.

It can only be good for him, and Rovers.

As long as he comes back in one piece.

[Hughesy]

Alot of unfair flak has gone to Andrews. He had been one of better performers since he joined, he also puts alot of effort in no matter the score, he has set several good chances up and also looks quite handy from free-kicks. He has done better than the likes of Reid, Roberts, Pedersen, Derbyshire, Treacy.

[den]

Alot of unfair flak has gone to Andrews. He had been one of better performers since he joined, he also puts alot of effort in no matter the score, he has set several good chances up and also looks quite handy from free-kicks. He has done better than the likes of Reid, Roberts, Pedersen, Derbyshire, Treacy.

What kind of comparison is that Hughesy? - Two left wingers, a midfielder that hasn't been fit for two years, and two strikers.

[BuckyRover]

"Yeah Hughesy!!

He isn't as good as Fabregas SO I HATE HIM, I HATE HIM, I HATE HIM.

IRELAND ARE RUBBISH. INCE IS RUBBISH. I WILL NEVER ADMIT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT HIM

(although I sort of don't approve of him being booed for no reason) IT SHOULDN'T BOTHER HIM THOUGH, GET OVER YOURSELF ANDREWS. I HATE YOU"

Den

[Hughesy]

What kind of comparison is that Hughesy? - Two left wingers, a midfielder that hasn't been fit for two years, and two strikers.

Its not a comparison, its a fact that people give him loads of stick, yet I have just named 5 players who have all performed worse than him this season. Why dont they get the flak?

[Scotty]

Andrews hasn't been half as bad as some people on this messageboard would like you to think. However, on his current level of performance he isn't playing well enough imo to get into the team when all our midfielders are fit. And bear in mind it could be argued that our midfield was sub-standard even when everyone was fit.

He's been ok - nothing more, nothing less - and if we've got any ambitions to stay a top-half team then he'll either have to improve or be replaced.

[JAL]

Andrews said: "He [Trapattoni] doesn't really care about reputations or what people have done or haven't done in their careers.

"I was playing in League Two last year and I have only been playing in the Premier League for a few months now, but it doesn't seem to bother him.

"He treats people as he finds them, and it's good for me."

There's a message in their folks. Instead of watching him and waiting for his first mistake - why not go in with an open mind next time.

He made 2 mistakes in the first half against sunderland - that's a fact. Yet he got forward more than anyone else and covered more ground than our other midfielders. His one touch passing was excellent and he could easily have had an excellent assist in the first minute and goal from a free kick.

It's time to give the guy a break. Trapattoni would not be considering him if he wasn't good enough - he's not worked with him before.

Surely you have to respect an opinion like that?

Respect his opinion, but I want to see a winning Rovers team, so far, with Andrews in the team I havent witnessed one, said before looking at his strengths what does he bring that isnt out of the ordinary to the Rovers team.Rovers carry on playing the way they are doing he/we wont be in the premier league for long, so much for this imaginary attractive football.

Theres seems a few on here who see something in him that I've yet to see .

The free kick he took looked like a back pass so comfortable was the save for the Sunderland keeper to make so yet again I dont see it the same way as you AndyC, the Kick has to go in the net, net means goal, goal means a greater chance of victory missed chances means why bother one touch one goal should be the rule to aspire to. I think Andrews is a case of so close but yet so far away.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Andrews hasn't been half as bad as some people on this messageboard would like you to think. However, on his current level of performance he isn't playing well enough imo to get into the team when all our midfielders are fit. And bear in mind it could be argued that our midfield was sub-standard even when everyone was fit.

He's been ok - nothing more, nothing less - and if we've got any ambitions to stay a top-half team then he'll either have to improve or be replaced.

I agree with your assessment, but I don't think anyone is saying he should be a first choice. Should he be first name on the teamsheet? - no. Is he a good enough stand-by? - yes.

Given who we are, our resources etc, we can't hope to keep top-half standard players on the bench or worse. No player who could hold down a place in, say, Villa's first team will accept being 3rd choice for us. So almost by definition our stand-by players are going to be too young, too old or not quite good enough to be regulars.