[Archived] Keith Andrews - Rovers Newest Signing

[philipl]

Hang on, hang on, hang on.

We had the chance to offload a POOR player, for MONEY, to a Premier League rival - And we didn't take it??

I'm more convinced than ever that Sam doesn't have a f****** clue what he's doing.

Let's see what happens if there is an improved bid...

[ffan]

Let's see what happens if there is an improved bid...

Apparently there has been no bid, just an enquiry or have the articles I read outdated?

[BuckyRover]

It said we wouldn't even enter into negotiations with Fulham as we have no need to sell.

[jim mk2]

I've been reading through this thread and I'm really, really, really confused.

Andrews is rubbish isn't he? Absolutely any fool who knows anything about football knows that. Why is Roy Hodgson interested in him then? I just can't understand it.

In Roy Hodgson's first full season Fulham finished 7th - that's quite high in the premier league isn't it? You'd think Roy therefore knows a bit about football. Why would he possibly want a player who is absolutely no way good enough for the premier league then, even as a squad player? The bloke is a championship player at best.

It just doesn't make any sense.

What doesn't make any sense is your continuing love affair with Andrews.

Are you his rent boy ?

Roy Hodgson overpaid for players when he was Rovers manager so perhaps this is his way of getting the club a few bob back.

Rovers should snap up any offer over £1.5m and replace Andrews with a squad player of similar standard yet far cheaper.

Any one of the Accrington Stanley midfield will do.

[John]

With our current central midfield options, we don't have many players who can run and stay fit, so think we need to keep him for now.

[Hughesy]

Hang on, hang on, hang on.

We had the chance to offload a POOR player, for MONEY, to a Premier League rival - And we didn't take it??

I'm more convinced than ever that Sam doesn't have a f****** clue what he's doing.

Yes lets take their 1st offer because clubs always come in with their top bid dont they?!

WHo doesnt know what he's doing??? Thank god your not manager or Chairman.

[Exiled_Rover]

Hodgson was terrible in the transfer market with us. As suggested perhaps he feels guilty about how shockingly bad he was for us and wants to make it up to us by offering good money for Andrews.

[Iceman]

Hodgson was terrible in the transfer market with us. As suggested perhaps he feels guilty about how shockingly bad he was for us and wants to make it up to us by offering good money for Andrews.

He cost us alot when he was signing players at Rovers, so i wonder if he might consider taking Treacy for 5mill as well. That will leave the balance owing to us of 20mill lol

[beerwins]

Snap his hand off for the love of god , andrews is a trier and gives 100% but even that isnt enough for the prem, yes he has the legs, yes he scored some vital goals but quality he does not have.

In those games that he scored did he prove influential throughout the game ? NO , he fades in and out of games and he does the simple thing of easy pass, well im sorry for a prem CM thats not good enough, the game flows through the middle of the park and he is a ghost.

God loves a player who gives 100% but andrews lacks the basic skill we need in midfield, does he have the ball retention of dunn or the killer pass of tugay ? he has the work ethic of reid but not the skill.

I cant help but think the bid would have been accepted if sam would have had an easier time in the market, the last thing he needs is having to replace our workhorse, when we cant get near to replacing the positions we really need too.

MAIN STRIKER. The list goes on and every one like the one before looks expensive and risky.

SUB STRIKER . Di santo dragging heels , i suppose he would have this one sown up by now , causing headaches i would imagine.

CREATIVE MID. Well good luck with this one depending on what brass is left from striker i suspect nothing.

All in all as well as bringing a few youngsters to the club sam looks like he is struggling, no wonder his missus wanted him to stay out of football, i give him a season max, he looks like his bartering on a small budget years have been wasted on bolton.

[Jonnolad]

Maybe not so much weird, as sad.

There's got to be more to life than this - don't you think Tris?

More to life than spending all your time posting on a messageboard do you mean? Day after day, night after night sat in front of a computer screen posting stuff that if you're honest is a waste of your life? Yeah I think you may be onto something there Den, lol

I'll admit I don't post on here that often. I have neither the time nor the inclination. You'll rarely see me posting after work finishes - I'm just too busy outside work to post. I bob on to check out the transfer gossip when I can, but that's usually it (that's where I saw the Fulham bid link for Andrews which made me chuckle). Even at work I'm generally too busy to post.

Ask yourself what's sadder - spending the majority of your waking life on a messageboard or coming on occasionally but mostly posting on one subject. Personally if my life was an internet messageboard, I certainly wouldn't be calling people sad who only come on occasionally but mostly post on one subject - do you know what I mean

I would post on other subjects too but this is just too good to resist sometimes - you yourself must realise that your opinion is completely on to loser most of the time surely:

Sam coming in but still choosing Andrews to start in vital matches - that clearly doesn't look good for your dire assessment of the player.

Sam choosing to start Andrews out of position in vital matches over supposedly better players in position - that definitely doesn't look good for your dire assessment of the player.

Giovanni Trappatoni choosing Andrews to start in vital International matches - this categorically flies in the face of your assessment.

Fulham making an attempt to sign him - your dire assessment clearly needs a rethink there surely.

And best of all Rovers stating and I quote here "the approach was met with a refusal to even enter into negotiations by Ewood Park officials" - a refusal to even enter into negotiations - how do you explain that one if your dire assessment of the player is correct? How? I'm intrigued.

(over and above the stats and match reports etc of course)

Besides which I find it bizarre that our own supporters are having a go at me for sticking up for one of our players - a player that appears to be with us at the very least for another season.

Here, you'll love this one incidentally from Sky yesterday:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5422600,00.html

The 28-year-old was a key figure in the club's successful battle against relegation last season and it was always unlikely that manager Sam Allardyce would even entertain the idea of selling the player.

Are these people blind or mad or what?

[den]

I was questioning my own existence Jonnolad, not yours

[tcj_jones]

That report is utter garbage, written by somebody who knows nothing about Rovers or Keith Andrews.

The messageboard is a good place to talk to fellow Rovers fans about issues relating to the club that you wouldn't be able to otherwise away from the internet. You are far sadder, and frankly weird, for your incesant repetition about lover boy Keith Andrews than those who enjoy posting on a range of topics about the club that they love.

Stop repeating the same things over and over, you absolute tool.

[JC4LAB]

Hodgson must see Keith as a flower ready to blossom..Had his baptism of fire in the Premiership and maybe will be a much better player from now on.....A decent part Ex with Fulham should be considered but have they anyone we fancy though?

[Plastic Head]

Hodgson must see Keith as a flower ready to blossom..Had his baptism of fire in the Premiership and maybe will be a much better player from now on.....A decent part Ex with Fulham should be considered but have they anyone we fancy though?

Most flowers are withering at the age of 29....

The footy talkstations kept refering to him as "young Keith Andrews" last season which bugged the hell out of me.

He has a good 10 years of failure behind him.

[broadsword]

Stop repeating the same things over and over, you absolute tool.

Just put him on ignore before he drives you mad.

[47er]

More to life than spending all your time posting on a messageboard do you mean? Day after day, night after night sat in front of a computer screen posting stuff that if you're honest is a waste of your life? Yeah I think you may be onto something there Den, lol

I'll admit I don't post on here that often. I have neither the time nor the inclination. You'll rarely see me posting after work finishes - I'm just too busy outside work to post. I bob on to check out the transfer gossip when I can, but that's usually it (that's where I saw the Fulham bid link for Andrews which made me chuckle). Even at work I'm generally too busy to post.

Ask yourself what's sadder - spending the majority of your waking life on a messageboard or coming on occasionally but mostly posting on one subject. Personally if my life was an internet messageboard, I certainly wouldn't be calling people sad who only come on occasionally but mostly post on one subject - do you know what I mean

I would post on other subjects too but this is just too good to resist sometimes - you yourself must realise that your opinion is completely on to loser most of the time surely:

Sam coming in but still choosing Andrews to start in vital matches - that clearly doesn't look good for your dire assessment of the player.

Sam choosing to start Andrews out of position in vital matches over supposedly better players in position - that definitely doesn't look good for your dire assessment of the player.

Giovanni Trappatoni choosing Andrews to start in vital International matches - this categorically flies in the face of your assessment.

Fulham making an attempt to sign him - your dire assessment clearly needs a rethink there surely.

And best of all Rovers stating and I quote here "the approach was met with a refusal to even enter into negotiations by Ewood Park officials" - a refusal to even enter into negotiations - how do you explain that one if your dire assessment of the player is correct? How? I'm intrigued.

(over and above the stats and match reports etc of course)

Besides which I find it bizarre that our own supporters are having a go at me for sticking up for one of our players - a player that appears to be with us at the very least for another season.

Here, you'll love this one incidentally from Sky yesterday:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5422600,00.html

The 28-year-old was a key figure in the club's successful battle against relegation last season and it was always unlikely that manager Sam Allardyce would even entertain the idea of selling the player.

Are these people blind or mad or what?

Good God---------not you again! Not this subject again. I'd be glad to get rid of him so we can forget.

[tcj_jones]

Just put him on ignore before he drives you mad.

Sorry, I know my responding to him must get almost as annoying. I just don't like putting people on ignore because I lose track of what's going on in the thread or because even the people whom I have the most conflicting opinions with at least put across a good argument.

It's tempting though.

[Blue blood]

Hodgson must see Keith as a flower ready to blossom..Had his baptism of fire in the Premiership and maybe will be a much better player from now on.....A decent part Ex with Fulham should be considered but have they anyone we fancy though?

Murphy (unlikely) Hangeland (not a chance) Zamora (joking) tbh the players we want are a creative cm and a striker. Other than Murphy who's unlikely to go as he's their captain, they don't have anyone in these positions that we'd want. Besides which I'd trust sam with the money.

One final thought IF we got 3 million for andrews that's almost the same as what we paid for Givet - crazy. Put's things in perspective.

[JC4LAB]

Perhaps Andy Johnson could be a decent striker for us with Andrews as part ex to keep the cash price down

[SouthAussieRover]

Good God---------not you again! Not this subject again. I'd be glad to get rid of him so we can forget.

Pray tell 47er.

Why do you feel the need to quote the whole of the post if it upsets you so much?

Why do you feel the need to repeat the post to the rest of the MB community? Some people may him on ignore but because you felt the need to quote the post it becomes visible.

Just curious

[Blue blood]

Perhaps Andy Johnson could be a decent striker for us with Andrews as part ex to keep the cash price down

Forgot about him to be truthful. But I don't think he hasn't done well for a couple of seasons now (or well enough for me to notice) and he hardly fits the mould of the type of striker Sam is looking for.

[philipl]

Let's put the debate on whether Keith Andrews was good or bad last season to one side.

This coming season I would expect Dunn, Reid, Emerton and N'Zonzi to be ahead of Keith for central midfield places with Grella also in contention and Warnock made a refugee from left back by Givet.

I would be suicidal if neither Jacobsen nor Emerton kept Keith out of the right back slot.

And this is before seeing if there is any pocket money left for buying a new midfielder.

Which all adds up to Keith being unlikely to see much of the bench, never mind the first team in the coming season.

If Rovers don't accept £2m and a bit for Keith from Fulham, it means Sam and his coaches and medics have seen somethings that are very worrying about the trio returning from injury.

[tcj_jones]

What strikes me is the continued and alarming lack of creativity in CM. Unless this N'Zonzi guy is a bit magic, then the only player we have in the middle that can create anything is Dunn, and his injury record is spectacularly bad. Failing to address this area of the team for a second season running would be criminal.

Personally, I'd have Grella and N'Zonzi for the enforcing role, Dunn and a new signing for the more attacking role. Get rid of Andrews and see if Reid ever gets fit.

I think it's about time that Warnock and Emerton were returned to their best and their most natural positions at full back.

Even then though, we have an incredible amount of options for midfield when you consider that both our full backs can do a very competent job in that position. I agree, any sizeable offer for Andrews should be accepted without hesitation.

(Thanks for the link on the Manc Dominance thread btw).

[bazza]

If Rovers don't accept £2m and a bit for Keith from Fulham, it means Sam and his coaches and medics have seen somethings that are very worrying about the trio returning from injury.

No. It means Sam and his coaches and medics have seen a good footballer in Keith Andrews.

Forget the 94 posts by Jonnolad and Den. It is amazing that an "ordinary" player like Andrews has 87 pages of discussion about him.

I hope Rovers keep him.

[Steve Moss]

. . . It is amazing that an "ordinary" player like Andrews has 87 pages of discussion about him. I hope Rovers keep him.

Agreed. Andrews has heart and keeps fit. Something a team can never have too much off, IMO.