[Archived] Record Transfer Fee

[Ewood and I Would]

I am sure by looking at our transfer history they will know we are not a typical English club lol.. who is our record signing to date?

andy cole aint it ???????

Yeah for 8 million

Wrong, it's David Bentley. Think about how much we've paid Arsenal for him in total....

According to nicko we'd payed £3m for him by the time he left and then had to give Arsenal a further 50% of his profit (£6m). That already makes him £9m and it will raise to £10m should the £2m add-ons get paid to us from Spurs.

Here's an idea, why not scrap that £1m for Andrews and add it to the Joaquin fund if price is an issue? Are we talking £2m here because seeing as we've got £20m I'll be a little miffed if we miss out on him over price...

[savage90]

Wrong, it's David Bentley. Think about how much we've paid Arsenal for him in total....

According to nicko we'd payed £3m for him by the time he left and then had to give Arsenal a further 50% of his profit (£6m). That already makes him £9m and it will raise to £10m should the £2m add-ons get paid to us from Spurs.

Here's an idea, why not scrap that £1m for Andrews and add it to the Joaquin fund if price is an issue? Are we talking £2m here because seeing as we've got £20m I'll be a little miffed if we miss out on him over price...

Don't think that makes him our record signing does it...thats spurs money not ours. Any additional clauses triggered due to the sale of the player doesn't mean you've paid more for him. If we were working like that we could say...we got 10 million for him directly from spurs, so we'd take the 10million we got away from anything extra we had to pay arsenal, potentially making him one of our cheapest signings?

[Ewood and I Would]

Don't think that makes him our record signing does it...thats spurs money not ours. Any additional clauses triggered due to the sale of the player doesn't mean you've paid more for him. If we were working like that we could say...we got 10 million for him directly from spurs, so we'd take the 10million we got away from anything extra we had to pay arsenal, potentially making him one of our cheapest signings?

Um no you don't subtract the amount you sold him for from how much he cost to get the value, that's just stupid.

It's pretty simple really, how much did we pay for David Bentley? £3m + £6 = £9m. Spurs gave us the £15m, we then have to give 6 of it to Arsenal on top of the 3 we've already given them. I don't see how you can't see that we've paid £9m to Arsenal for David Bentley's services. Add-on clauses ARE relevant, otherwise are you saying that if Bentley fulfils his clauses then Spurs still only paid £15m for him? No, it would then become £17m.

Or easier, do you count Jo as costing £19m (the total values inc add-ons) or do you only count the £5m or so they've paid up front?

[Eddie]

I don't think you can include percentage of next sale in record signing.

[Valois]

Um no you don't subtract the amount you sold him for from how much he cost to get the value, that's just stupid.

It's pretty simple really, how much did we pay for David Bentley? £3m + £6 = £9m. Spurs gave us the £15m, we then have to give 6 of it to Arsenal on top of the 3 we've already given them. I don't see how you can't see that we've paid £9m to Arsenal for David Bentley's services. Add-on clauses ARE relevant, otherwise are you saying that if Bentley fulfils his clauses then Spurs still only paid £15m for him? No, it would then become £17m.

Or easier, do you count Jo as costing £19m (the total values inc add-ons) or do you only count the £5m or so they've paid up front?

How can we give something to arsenal when we never had it in the first place? We never had this alleged £6million, spurs did. Never the less, does it really matter?

[mark1875]

which ever way people will look at it the official record signing for rovers is andy cole for £8m from manchester united.

we paid arsenal 3m for bentley

spurs paid 15m for him. (9 to us, and 6 to arsenal)

[Roar of the Rover]

which ever way people will look at it the official record signing for rovers is andy cole for £8m from manchester united.

we paid arsenal 3m for bentley

spurs paid 15m for him. (9 to us, and 6 to arsenal)

Spurs paid US £15million of which we gave £6million to Arsenal. Big difference.

[mark1875]

Spurs paid US £15million of which we gave £6million to Arsenal. Big difference.

point taken but as i said which ever way anyone looks at it Andy Cole remains our record signing.

[Roar of the Rover]

point taken but as i said which ever way anyone looks at it Andy Cole remains our record signing.

How though?

Bentley cost us in total £9million. Andy Cole cost us £8million.

[Veevs]

Wrong, it's David Bentley. Think about how much we've paid Arsenal for him in total....

According to nicko we'd payed £3m for him by the time he left and then had to give Arsenal a further 50% of his profit (£6m). That already makes him £9m and it will raise to £10m should the £2m add-ons get paid to us from Spurs.

Here's an idea, why not scrap that £1m for Andrews and add it to the Joaquin fund if price is an issue? Are we talking £2m here because seeing as we've got £20m I'll be a little miffed if we miss out on him over price...

Disagree on the bentley thing.. we did not SIGN him for 9m we signed him for 3m and Arse took a % of the profit we made selling him..

Agree on Joaquin though.. I feel he is worth it.. hell look at some of the other premiership signings this season, Bentley 17m, Elmander 11m.. blimey you could list them forever..

[broadsword]

Um no you don't subtract the amount you sold him for from how much he cost to get the value, that's just stupid.

It's pretty simple really, how much did we pay for David Bentley? £3m + £6 = £9m. Spurs gave us the £15m, we then have to give 6 of it to Arsenal on top of the 3 we've already given them. I don't see how you can't see that we've paid £9m to Arsenal for David Bentley's services.

Nonsense.

We paid 3 million pounds to Arsenal for David Bentley.

Spurs paid us 15 million, of which 6 million immediately went to Arsenal.

We bought him for 3 million, simple as that.

Did you ever work for Asil Nadir or someone of that ilk?!

[mark1875]

How though?

Bentley cost us in total £9million. Andy Cole cost us £8million.

u go check who the name is on the rovers official record signing and u will find it to be andy cole

[Hi Mack]

How though?

Bentley cost us in total £9million. Andy Cole cost us £8million.

Bentley cost 3million

Cole cost 8 million

If we didnt sell Bentley we wouldnt have to pay arsenal 6 million!

so.....we paid 3 million!

[mark1875]

i think people are counting 'clauses' as 'add ons' without realising they are 2 different things

[Ewood and I Would]

I don't think you can include percentage of next sale in record signing.

Why not? If you're saying Bentley cost us £3m you're already taking in apperances, goals and England appearances (as I belive the "original fee" was only 500k and it got up to £3m because of the above add-ons), % of next sale is just another add-on, so why exclude that but include the others? Either Bentley cost us 500k or £9m.

Spurs would NOT have sent £6m straight to Arsenal, we would have the full £15m and I'm not even sure what timeframe we have to pay Arsenal the £6m, we may even still have it.

How much did we pay to Man Utd for the services of Andy Cole? £8m

How much did we pay Arsenal for the services of David Bentley? £9m (potentially £10m)

..simple

Bentley cost 3million

Cole cost 8 million

If we didnt sell Bentley we wouldnt have to pay arsenal 6 million!

so.....we paid 3 million!

But we did, therefore we have given a total of £9m to Arsenal for the services of David Bentley. You could just easily say if there was no clause we would be £6m richer....

[Valois]

Bentley cost 3million

Cole cost 8 million

If we didnt sell Bentley we wouldnt have to pay arsenal 6 million!

so.....we paid 3 million!

here here, as i said before, how could we possibly pay arsenal a further alleged £6million, when we never had this in the first place. I think this topic has run its course now any how.

Nicko any beans you can spill??

[Eddie]

I would have said that we signed Bentley for 750k or whatever, with possible add-ons and future fees. For a record signing it would have to be a guaranteed sum in my opinion. Obviously my opinion isn't official, but if you look on official records Andy Cole will be our record signing.

[Atomicrover]

Why not? If you're saying Bentley cost us £3m you're already taking in apperances, goals and England appearances (as I belive the "original fee" was only 500k and it got up to £3m because of the above add-ons), % of next sale is just another add-on, so why exclude that but include the others? Either Bentley cost us 500k or £9m.

Spurs would NOT have sent £6m straight to Arsenal, we would have the full £15m and I'm not even sure what timeframe we have to pay Arsenal the £6m, we may even still have it.

How much did we pay to Man Utd for the services of Andy Cole? £8m

How much did we pay Arsenal for the services of David Bentley? £9m (potentially £10m)

..simple

But we did, therefore we have given a total of £9m to Arsenal for the services of David Bentley. You could just easily say if there was no clause we would be £6m richer....

I can't believe I even want to get involved, but, we paid £3m, but he cost us £9m, I think that sums it up

[Hi Mack]

Why not? If you're saying Bentley cost us £3m you're already taking in apperances, goals and England appearances (as I belive the "original fee" was only 500k and it got up to £3m because of the above add-ons), % of next sale is just another add-on, so why exclude that but include the others? Either Bentley cost us 500k or £9m.

Spurs would NOT have sent £6m straight to Arsenal, we would have the full £15m and I'm not even sure what timeframe we have to pay Arsenal the £6m, we may even still have it.

How much did we pay to Man Utd for the services of Andy Cole? £8m

How much did we pay Arsenal for the services of David Bentley? £9m (potentially £10m)

..simple

But we did, therefore we have given a total of £9m to Arsenal for the services of David Bentley. You could just easily say if there was no clause we would be £6m richer....

He cost us 3 million!

He cost spurs 15 million (9 million to us and 35%ish already agreed would go to The arse)

[AndyCV]

Sorry, I just lost the will to live over this Bentley debate.

Glad I am not the only one!

[nicko]

By the way, Andy Cole cost nothing like £8 million...

The fee was £4 million down plus about £1 million in extras.

I don't know who that leaves as record signing...Grabbi?

[Roost]

By the way, Andy Cole cost nothing like £8 million...

The fee was £4 million down plus about £1 million in extras.

I don't know who that leaves as record signing...Grabbi?

Bloody 'ell - Grabbi!!

Is there an 11.00 o'clock news tonight Nicko?

[LDRover]

I don't know who that leaves as record signing...Grabbi?

Hence the apparent reluctance to release the purse strings?

Once bitten and all that

[Valois]

By the way, Andy Cole cost nothing like £8 million...

The fee was £4 million down plus about £1 million in extras.

I don't know who that leaves as record signing...Grabbi?

Or Davies? Think he was around £7.25million

Anyway, i think this should just be put to bed now.

Any transfer gossip from rovers Nicko?

[dlukeg1]

How much was kevin davies when he came?