[Archived] Sparky - Not A Great Manager?

[Hughesy]

just saw that, class.

Know my lotto results?

You like that......Sorry go see that Darren Brown or whatever he's called

Wasnt suprised by the City result - next weekend is the big test in the Manchester Derby - That is where we will see just how far they have come.

[Amo]

Wasnt suprised by the City result - next weekend is the big test in the Manchester Derby - That is where we will see just how far they have come.

I dunno about that. The form book goes out the window in local derbies.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Mark Hughes has spoken about the Adebayor incident:

“There has been much discussion over the weekend regarding the various incidents in Saturday’s game which is understandable,” said the manager.

“Emmanuel Adebayor sustained a tremendous amount of personal abuse from the kick-off but strongly maintains that there was no malice intended in the challenge on Robin Van Persie and apologised to him when he hugged him on leaving the field of play at the end of the game.

“The referee had a great view of the challenge from Ade and the one that preceeded it by Van Persie and deemed at the time that neither were worthy of either a yellow or red card.

"As for Ade’s emotionally charged goal celebration, which has also prompted debate, there have been similar such celebrations in recent times."

“We expect high standards of behaviour from our players and it is easy in the cold light of day, when the adrenalin has died down, to talk about what players should and shouldn’t do in that situation. Ade again immediately apologised but we know the FA will be reviewing the matter.”

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2009/...r/Hughes-on-Ade

[Tom]

Hughes keeps going down in my estimation.

It's an insult to football to call a stamp on someones face a 'challenge'

[Stuart]

Hughes keeps going down in my estimation.

It's an insult to football to call a stamp on someones face a 'challenge'

Clever though:

“The referee had a great view of the challenge from Ade and the one that preceeded it by Van Persie and deemed at the time that neither were worthy of either a yellow or red card."

Puts a bit of pressure on the FA to back the referee.

That said, I hope they throw the book at Adebeyor.

[Anti Euro Smiths Fan]

I say fair play to Adabeyor-The amount of stick the Arse fans have given him over the last 18 months, I would have done the same, ney more. As for raking RVP, well it couldn't happen to a nicer person AESF.

I was always brought up to believe that two wrongs don't make a right Ozzie and therefore I'm afraid I can't agree with you that Van Persie deserved to be kicked in the face.

I fully accept that Van Persie isn't a little angel. However I can't excuse what I thought was a deliberate and disgraceful kick in the Dutchman's face, just centimetres away from his eye. I watched a slow-motion video replay of the incident, looked at it closely and it appeared clear to me that there was deliberate intent on the part of the African.

Van Persie was right after the match when he said: "Adebayor set out to hurt me. He changed the angle of his body to allow contact to be made. He moved backwards when his natural momentum would have taken him forward."

I think the BBC should have condemned Adebayor more forcefully instead of Lee Dixon's mealy-mouthed and very mild words on Match of The Day 2 last night, when he said: "I think Adebayor will be a bit disappointed with himself when he looks at it again".

I feel the BBC should have made it clear to any youngsters watching the programme that such behaviour was completely unacceptable. Adebayor was the BBC's "African Footballer Of The Year" in 2007. (El Hadji Diouf was the BBC's African Footballer Of The Year in 2002.) I feel the BBC should have informed viewers that they made the wrong choice in 2007 and that Emmanuel Adebayor is a disgrace to the game of football.

If Van Persie had been seriously injured in the eye, with one of Adebayor's boot studs going into the Dutchman's eyeball, would you still have welcomed the stamp from Adebayor, Ozzie?

What is the cut-off point and the level of violence that you would deem to be unacceptable on Van Persie? Would it be okay if a supporter attacked him in the street and stabbed him?

What does it say about our society when we condone and fail to condemn acts of violence?

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[philipl]

Another facile simplistic post from AESF.

But of course rape in Africa is exactly the first thing anyone talks about when discussing Mark Hughes.

[Ozz]

If Van Persie had been seriously injured in the eye, with one of Adebayor's boot studs going into the Dutchman's eyeball, would you still have welcomed the stamp from Adebayor, Ozzie?

No, not really. But modern footballers mean very little to me AESF, I cannot identify with them in any way-they are almost unreal, fictional characters these days, their identities blown out of proportion and recognition by the media, their own egos and by the hysteria that surrounds every minute detail of their lives. So if Van Persie gets clobbered by Adebayor, or Bellamy poll-axes Riise with a 7 iron, or Ferdinand `forgets` a drug test, or Bowyer trashes a MacDonalds ...etc etc I tend to shrug my shoulders and think-Oh Dear another overpaid clown has lost touch with reality.

Adebayor was out of order and should be punished-but so what? He gets a ban? So what, he obviously doesn't care about the playing side of things, his move to Man City proves that. Or he gets a fine-so what? Unless it's a million quid he won't feel it.

The whole thing is bonkers, and the only reason I keep going really is that I am so so lucky that my club happens to Blackburn Rovers, in my opinion one of the least culpable clubs in all this madness, paying their way, preaching family values and really, truly looking after their own supporters in my opinion.

Anyhow, I digress. Carry on.

[Steve Moss]

. . . I am so so lucky that my club happens to Blackburn Rovers, in my opinion one of the least culpable clubs in all this madness, paying their way, preaching family values and really, truly looking after their own supporters in my opinion.

Amen. I only began to pay attention to football (football to you non-American types) 3 years ago. For a variety of reasons, not least those you've enunciated, it didn't take me long to become a Blackburn fan. Most of the other clubs, including Man City, seem soul-less.

[waggy]

mark hughes outgrew rovers it's as simple as that,he is doing a good job,as for defending his players,andy todd antone

[Iceman]

mark hughes outgrew rovers it's as simple as that,he is doing a good job,as for defending his players,andy todd antone

Oh get a grip. Hughes doesnt need to do any coaching, with the players at his disposal. If we could give him what City are doing right now, then he would still be here. The fact of the matter is, we have moved on. You seem to be the only guy who still has issues regarding the current manager.

[Rover95]

Oh get a grip. Hughes doesnt need to do any coaching, with the players at his disposal. If we could give him what City are doing right now, then he would still be here. The fact of the matter is, we have moved on. You seem to be the only guy who still has issues regarding the current manager.

I've just worked out how to use the 'ignore' function. Its very simple.

[mellison24]

I've just worked out how to use the 'ignore' function. Its very simple.

Trouble is, I get annoyed just knowing he's posted something, so I decided to forget ignore and just read it anyway lol

[rebelmswar]

Trouble is, I get annoyed just knowing he's posted something, so I decided to forget ignore and just read it anyway lol

I dont know why you all seem to want to ignore him, he always seems to bring a smile to my face.

[mellison24]

I dont know why you all seem to want to ignore him, he always seems to bring a smile to my face.

I literally spat out my drink. Then I realised you probably mean in terms of laughing at him.

[Anti Euro Smiths Fan]

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I'll provide a link for you now which is related to the Man City manager.

Arsene Wenger has launched an attack on Mark Hughes and Adebayor, saying: "You ask 100 people and 99 will say the stamp was very bad and the hundredth will be Mark Hughes."

Link below:

Wenger vents fury on Adebayor and Hughes

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Anyway, back on topic now to Mark Hughes - I think he is defending the indefensible in terms of Adebayor. I think he would have come out with more credit if he had immediately said after the match against Arsenal on Saturday: "Adebayor's stamp and inflammatory goal celebration were unacceptable."

I'm pleased that Adebayor is facing a ban for his disgraceful behaviour, with referee Mark Clattenburg now stating that he would have sent off Adebayor if he had witnessed the stamp on Van Persie's face.

Unfortunately I suspect that the ban will be too short for only a few games. Whereas I feel that a clearer message needs to be sent out to youngsters (and indeed everybody that plays football) that kicking somebody in the face while they are on the ground is completely unacceptable. Such conduct in my view merits a long ban at whatever level of football the game is being played.

As for Hughes I feel he is rather fortunate to have kept his job last season, considering that Sven-Goran Eriksson was sacked by City for finishing 9th in the 2007/08 season. Hughes spent a lot of money and finished 10th last season in a worse position than Eriksson managed. If 9th place wasn't good enough for Sven, why was 10th place good enough for Hughes?

Having spent such a staggering amount of money now - over £200m - I feel that Hughes needs to finish in the top four this season or at least win a cup trophy to avoid being under pressure.

[LeChuck]

I don't know about that Miker. I must admit I've never taken a close look at their willies, nor indeed do I ever wish to do so.

Of all the lies you've posted here over the years, you can't seriously expect us to swallow this one!

No pun intended, obviously.

[rebelmswar]

the ban will be too short for only a few games. Whereas I feel that a clearer message needs to be sent out to youngsters (and indeed everybody that plays football) that kicking somebody in the face while they are on the ground is completely unacceptable. Such conduct in my view merits a long ban at whatever level of football the game is being played.

If young footballers need to be told that stepping on faces is wrong, the world is in a proper crap state.

For the life of me I can not see how anyone, anywhere at anytime can take Mark Hughes seriously after his behaviour in this matter. He has 0 credibility in my opinion and his remarks should be remembered by referies and officials for the next time he has a moan about the treatment of his players.

If he, and his team in general, keep this up they might as well walk around with targets painted on their asses.

Dirty play and refusal to deal with it in house, nay, condoning it = filthy team and even filthier management.

I am ashamed of what you have become Hughes. (note no Mr.)

[philipl]

AESF talking ###### as usual- they might be big or they might be small, they might be black, they might be white, but it is still ######...

Anyway, dear old Rovers are being dragged into the real argument by the Sun and BBC-

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has reopened his feud with Manchester City boss Mark Hughes following Emmanuel Adebayor's alleged stamp on Robin van Persie on Saturday. Wenger, who used to accuse Hughes' Blackburn side of being too physical, said: "You ask 100 people, 99 will say it is very bad and the hundredth will be Mark Hughes."

[thenodrog]

If young footballers need to be told that stepping on faces is wrong, the world is in a proper crap state.

For the life of me I can not see how anyone, anywhere at anytime can take Mark Hughes seriously after his behaviour in this matter. He has 0 credibility in my opinion and his remarks should be remembered by referies and officials for the next time he has a moan about the treatment of his players.

If he, and his team in general, keep this up they might as well walk around with targets painted on their asses.

Dirty play and refusal to deal with it in house, nay, condoning it = filthy team and even filthier management.

I am ashamed of what you have become Hughes. (note no Mr.)

Case for the defence...........

I must point out that at no time have we been informed of the football equivalent of 'sledging' that was probably aimed at him from more than a few of the Arsenal players. I've no evidence of course but if RVP had been mouthy for an hour (and I imagine that winding Adebayor up would have been pre-planned on the coach up) and had then come in the back of me I dare say I'd have taken a kick at him too..... and I guess that goes for most. Also I bet most of us have had bigger cuts shaving without writhing around on the bathroom floor for 5 mins.

[thenodrog]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has reopened his feud with Manchester City boss Mark Hughes following Emmanuel Adebayor's alleged stamp on Robin van Persie on Saturday. Wenger, who used to accuse Hughes' Blackburn side of being too physical, said: "You ask 100 people, 99 will say it is very bad and the hundredth will be Mark Hughes."

He's wrong there only 98/100 would say it was very bad, 1/100 would be Mark Hughes and the hundredth would be saying in a heavy French accent........ er no I am zorry, I deed not see zee incident. In fact what a hoot that would have been if Hughes imitated Wengers stock answer in the post match press conference! Unfortunately 10% on here would immedietely have accused Sparky of racism though.

btw Doesn't Wengers Arsenal team lead the Prem all time red card league?

[rebelmswar]

Case for the defence...........

I must point out that at no time have we been informed of the football equivalent of 'sledging' that was probably aimed at him from more than a few of the Arsenal players. I've no evidence of course but if RVP had been mouthy for an hour (and I imagine that winding Adebayor up would have been pre-planned on the coach up) and had then come in the back of me I dare say I'd have taken a kick at him too..... and I guess that goes for most. Also I bet most of us have had bigger cuts shaving without writhing around on the bathroom floor for 5 mins.

If this was acceptable behaviour after being wound up we would be cashing in on our life insurance policy on Diouf and we would have had to have a funeral for Savage.

All I am saying is that to TRY (regardless of the result) to injure another player is wrong. I think our vision is being blurred because it is Arsenal.

I also can not believe for a second theno that you of all people would kick a man when he is down.

[John]

Interesting article on the back room staff at Man City: TEAM SPARKY AT CITY

It has Fevre as physio though, which is wrong.

[thenodrog]

I also can not believe for a second theno that you of all people would kick a man when he is down. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Be bloody daft to let the bgugger get up and thump me again reb.

[Plastic Head]

5 points from 5 games, 3 at home = relegation form.

If Sheikh Abber Dabber is serious he needs to stop Hughes wasting his money and pay a fortune for Mourinho.

A Dingle bashing could be the end.

We will have you back in a bit Sparky.