[Archived] Right Wing..

[Veevs]

Some of these figures are probably out.. but they are rough enough based on various reports..

Cazorla - 9m

Valencia - 10m

Joaquin - 10m

Riera - 12m

Larsson - 5m

Kightly - 4m

SWP - 12m

Pennant - 6m

Can't think of any others.. well at least non the are less than 15m

[rover6]

The best value right winger is probably some foreigner that only the die-hards have heard of.

That list is more the "most famous best value right wingers" possibly available. All those guys would improve our side but the fee for Valencia and Larsson are the antithesis of value, imo.

A player who I rate is Adam Johnson who, despite being left footed, can play right wing.

[Veevs]

Forgot

Lennon 6m

Milner 9m

The best value right winger is probably some foreigner that only the die-hards have heard of.

That list is more the "most famous best value right wingers" possibly available. All those guys would improve our side but the fee for Valencia and Larsson are the antithesis of value, imo.

A player who I rate is Adam Johnson who, despite being left footed, can play right wing.

I have never been a fan of left footed players on the right..

[benlloninho]

I'm not really sure who we should go for.

Does our midfield have enough strength? Will they get kicked off the park by a more physical team? I can't answer that for sure, but I think that Mokoena, Reid, Dunn, and Emerton, can be competitive CMs in this league. So I wouldn't be scared of trying to get in an extremely skillful player even if there were questions about his size, strength, etc. cos I feel like we have enough battlers in the midfield. Tho obviously we could use a better midfield hardman than the Axe.

So let's get a right footed Piñacabeza.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Larsson- Would Birmingham sell to us despite the bad blood between the clubs over the years?

Pennant- Doesn't want to come here and would rather sit on the pool bench. Questions over Pool's valuation of him.

Kightly- Mick McCarthy says he is going nowhere, signed a new deal recently iirc?

Lennon- Don't rate. Happy at Spurs and by the looks of it in Ramos's plans.

SWP- Expensive fee and high wages. Get the impression he would rather stay at Chelsea and sit on the bench collecting his pay packet.

Joaquin- Wants to stay in Spain and Valencia Exec now says he is going nowhere.

My view is that if we do bring in a right winger its going to be an unknown foreign one. The free agent Lopez is on trial and if he does well it looks like he will be the one we bring in.

I think its more likely we won't buy anyone this window and we will have to make do with Emerton, Reid and Derbyshire until January. Not a decision i would go with, but with no decent targets out there that are willing to come to the club, what do you do?

[Veevs]

Larsson- Would Birmingham sell to us despite the bad blood between the clubs over the years?

Pennant- Doesn't want to come here and would rather sit on the pool bench. Questions over Pool's valuation of him.

Kightly- Mick McCarthy says he is going nowhere, signed a new deal recently iirc?

Lennon- Don't rate. Happy at Spurs and by the looks of it in Ramos's plans.

SWP- Expensive fee and high wages. Get the impression he would rather stay at Chelsea and sit on the bench collecting his pay packet.

Joaquin- Wants to stay in Spain and Valencia Exec now says he is going nowhere.

My view is that if we do bring in a right winger its going to be an unknown foreign one. The free agent Lopez is on trial and if he does well it looks like he will be the one we bring in.

I think its more likely we won't buy anyone this window and we will have to make do with Emerton, Reid and Derbyshire until January. Not a decision i would go with, but with no decent targets out there that are willing to come to the club, what do you do?

I agree there.. except on the Joaquin move.. I also have the feeling we will probably end up with Lopez provided he impressed just a little more than what we already have.

If anything with the messages from the club and the players agent again I think there may be an outside chance with a Joaquin move provided we put in a decent bit... i.e. 10-11m rather than the rumoured 8-9m bid.

[RoverRich]

Just to add another right wing to the list and that is Ibrahim Afellay of PSV. Can play anywhere across midfield but was impressive during Euro 2008 on the wing and I would make a rough guess of approx. 10mil. It is unlikely we would get him but, seeing as the list is more of who we would love to see at Rovers rather than who we are actually likely to get, I thought I would add Afellay in.

I agree with RVR, if we do bring a right winger in it will probably be none of these but someone who is not so well known but does a decent job and is fairly cheap.

[Plastic Head]

"Who is the best value right winger available.."

Nick Griffin

[Veevs]

"Who is the best value right winger available.."

Nick Griffin

Brilliant..

[philipl]

Affelay is currently playing the best of all those mentioned.

My attitude is we flogged Bentley for a net £10m ish and it will cost £10m ish to put that sort of quality back into the team.

[Veevs]

Affelay is currently playing the best of all those mentioned.

My attitude is we flogged Bentley for a net £10m ish and it will cost £10m ish to put that sort of quality back into the team.

Ditto but it has been a while since we did that..? We seem to spend quite a while trying to unearth gems.. under hughes that was fine as he had the time to scout around.. but with Bentley leaving we now have one hefty hole to fill.

What amazes me is most Blackburn fans and Hughes himself knew bentley would more than likely be off this pre-season.. surely there would of been a shortlist? Either Ince threw the shortlist out of the window when he arrived or it was full of utter rubbish!!! Looks to be that the only player on Hughes shortlist was Annan.. lol

Threw this thread in so we can dream a little during the last 7 days of this transfer window..

I would just love us to take a little bit of a gamble and spend a few more bob this time around (if players like those on the list can be considered a gamble) like we seemed to with Carlos..

Personally Joaquin, Affelay, Kightly would all be a decent choices..

[ffan]

That Paul Konchesky is quite good...

[rover6]

Another names to contemplate (aside from the stand-out candidate, Konchesky).

How does Rangers Chris Burke these days? When I saw him play a while back, I was sure he was going to be a massive hit. He was direct, skilful and had the Damien Duff about him. However, I think injuries have stalled his career.

[Paul Mellelieu]

Pennant I think would be the best bet.

[DeadlyDirk]

Cazorla - 9m

Valencia - 10m

Joaquin - 10m

Riera - 12m

Larsson - 5m

Kightly - 4m

SWP - 12m

Pennant - 6m

Lennon 6m

Milner 9m

I honestly can't see us spending more than about £5-6 million on any player so that rules a lot of them out. Joaquin if he can recapture his old form does have quality, with the reports of Valencia needing to sell he may be the only one we would pay slightly more for, if we get him down to £7 million or so it could happen.

Other than that Cazorla we won't pay it and I haven't actually seen him linked myself, Riera wants to go to Liverpool reportedly but may settle for Everton, we certainly wouldn't be paying that much for him. Larsson and Kightly people make too much out of, yes they are the cheaper option but their both championship players who are no certainties of being able to step it up in the premiership. Larsson didn't exactly shine last year.

If £12m is the price for SWP then combined with his wages it just won't happen, we have as much chance of getting Ronaldo.

Milner at £9m is laughable, I'll donate £9 million to charity if this one happens for that much! Out of those targets it seems Lennon and Pennant are the only ones that are affordable and realistic. Pennant may not be quite as much as £6 million and could happen if he wants to give up on Liverpool, he may need to be forced out than leave voluntarily though as he seems to enjoy it there, despite not featuring so far this year.

Lennon again could happen I guess, he'd be a useful option but his end product really does lack at the moment, still he is young and learning so I wouldn't be overly against it, Spurs will probably want to sell some players to do some panic buying about now anyway.

I wouldn't be surprised though if the player that comes in is someone we don't know much about and isn't on that list. Hopefully Ince saw from the Hull game that we still need a replacement for Bentley, if we only sign a right midfielder from now until the end of the transfer window because if were going to perservere with Reid then it could be a major worry.

[Veevs]

I honestly can't see us spending more than about £5-6 million on any player so that rules a lot of them out. Joaquin if he can recapture his old form does have quality, with the reports of Valencia needing to sell he may be the only one we would pay slightly more for, if we get him down to £7 million or so it could happen.

I wouldn't be surprised though if the player that comes in is someone we don't know much about and isn't on that list. Hopefully Ince saw from the Hull game that we still need a replacement for Bentley, if we only sign a right midfielder from now until the end of the transfer window because if were going to perservere with Reid then it could be a major worry.

I know.. Blackburn do seem to be stuck buying cheap and often unknown players.. when sometimes you need to splash that extra little bit of cash..

I think in some cases we should take the example of a team like portsmouth.. 7.1m for Muntari and less than a season later they sold him for 12m.. a tidy little 5m profit.

I still think we are lacking 2-3 players.. CM being one of the key areas I feel we are lacking badly.

Maybe experiences with some of our former managers have highlighted just what happens when you invest badly and have been taken to much to heart by JW.

Still there are not many players out there who have the potential to be world class, but once you are world class you don't entirely loose that ability and Joaquin is the only one that would fall into that bracket that we have remotely looked at.

Playing good old fantasy football given 22m (not saying thats what we have but its the figure banded about), I would go:

In:

Inler - 7.8m

Albidol or Annan - 1.5m

joaquin - 8m

Bradley or Maduro - 4m

and given half a chance.. get rid of McBennie for Olic and get rid of Gally and the Axe

[LeChuck]

Playing good old fantasy football given 22m (not saying thats what we have but its the figure banded about), I would go:

£22m?! I've never seen that figure put on here. We'll be lucky if we have £10 million to spend. £6 million on Pennant and £4 million on a good central midfielder and I'll be very happy at this stage.

I know there's no harm in dreaming...but you're going to be very, very disappointed when the window shuts...why torture yourself?

[Dunnfc]

Really do think we should get Sebastian Larsson in at right wing and get Carlos Diogo from relegated Zaragoza becuase that partnership would be like Emerton and Bentley but better imo.

[S15]

The best bet is to struggle on until a worthy player comes along.

We need a good central midfielder more urgently, and I will be very angry if our cash is blown on somebody for the sake of it.

I'd rather have Emerton/Reid for 6-12 months and sign the right guy for big money (if needs be) when he comes along.

Pennant or somebody for over the odds will be awful, and a sign of desperation on Inces' part.

[Veevs]

The best bet is to struggle on until a worthy player comes along.

We need a good central midfielder more urgently, and I will be very angry if our cash is blown on somebody for the sake of it.

I'd rather have Emerton/Reid for 6-12 months and sign the right guy for big money (if needs be) when he comes along.

Pennant or somebody for over the odds will be awful, and a sign of desperation on Inces' part.

I dont think we can struggle on until a worth player comes along.. we need a right sided player and a at least one central player like yesterday.. and IMO I still think we need another quality striker..

If RSC gets an injury or is on international duty (it is world cup qualifying after all) Matt, McBennie (Not the same player anymore), Gally (should go), Fowler (past it).. Roberts (all toil and no result).

If we sign Pennant for 6m I will cry.. he is not worth that at all.. smacks of desperation purchasing him for those kind of pennies... especially when by christmas his value will of dropped due to the modern day cost of bench warmers.

[Bazzanotsogreat]

£22m?! I've never seen that figure put on here. We'll be lucky if we have £10 million to spend. £6 million on Pennant and £4 million on a good central midfielder and I'll be very happy at this stage.

I know there's no harm in dreaming...but you're going to be very, very disappointed when the window shuts...why torture yourself?

Your figure is way out. We have raised over 10 million in just transfer dealings. The 22 million is probably closer to the mark and that is a little on the low side.

Even PhilpL- who is one of the self-appointed Trustee sheriffs has stated that the club have over 20 million in the kitty and to quote him ‘sees no reason why the club couldn’t go out and blow over 15 million on one player’

[67splitscreen]

Can't see how signing Pennant, could be seen as desperation.

According to Nicko, we have been on his tail for weeks.

No argument about his price tag or his ability???.

[LeChuck]

Your figure is way out. We have raised over 10 million in just transfer dealings. The 22 million is probably closer to the mark and that is a little on the low side.

Even PhilpL- who is one of the self-appointed Trustee sheriffs has stated that the club have over 20 million in the kitty and to quote him ‘sees no reason why the club couldn’t go out and blow over 15 million on one player’

Philipl, for all his good posts on Rovers' accounts, it's renowned for putting the most intense positive spin on everything to do with Rovers. Coupled with his wildly inaccurate guestimates which come around every transfer window and you don't really have a reliable source to reference.

I'm not sure how you've worked out that we've brought in more than £10 million. It seems widely accepted that we received around £9 million for Bentley, and we lost £1 million on the Friedel/Robinson swap. We would have gotten a few extra million from the difference in compensation for the change in coaching staff. Although Villanueva is currently a loan, that £3 million or so to make it permanent HAS to be taken out of this years budget and set aside. To be honest, £10 million is really pushing it, unless we got mega money for Hughes and co.

It's insane to think we'll have in excess of £20 million to spend. Even with the trustee's extra £3 million, it would take a hardcore optimist to get past the £12 million mark. Why do people think they trustees would suddenly dig £10-12 million out of their own pocket to hand to a completely unproven manager when they wouldn't do it for a proven expert in the transfer market? It would be absolute madness to hand Ince that kind of money without him proving himself first, and we're prudent at the best of times.

I've completely omitted that odd £10 million figure that has been floating around on here without substance by the way, if you can bring some concrete evidence that it exists (Nicko doesn't count) then I might change my mind.

[Bazzanotsogreat]

I'm not sure how you've worked out that we've brought in more than £10 million. It seems widely accepted that we received around £9 million for Bentley, and we lost £1 million on the Friedel/Robinson swap. We would have gotten a few extra million from the difference in compensation for the change in coaching staff. Although Villanueva is currently a loan, that £3 million or so to make it permanent HAS to be taken out of this years budget and set aside. To be honest, £10 million is really pushing it, unless we got mega money for Hughes and co.

It's insane to think we'll have in excess of £20 million to spend. Even with the trustee's extra £3 million, it would take a hardcore optimist to get past the £12 million mark. Why do people think they trustees would suddenly dig £10-12 million out of their own pocket to hand to a completely unproven manager when they wouldn't do it for a proven expert in the transfer market? It would be absolute madness to hand Ince that kind of money without him proving himself first, and we're prudent at the best of times.

I've completely omitted that odd £10 million figure that has been floating around on here without substance by the way, if you can bring some concrete evidence that it exists (Nicko doesn't count) then I might change my mind.

It was widely reported that Rovers received between 4-5 million in compo for Hughes his staff a minimum of 9 million for Bentley 3 million from the trust & 500k from the garner sale. Outgoings- 3.5 Robinson, 400k Villanueva loan a maximum of 1 million for Ince’s backroom team ( call it 5 million in total). How does this not add up to more than 10 million Lechuck

Secondly to politely re-iterate JW has stated that additional trust money will be made available in January ( this will cover the Villanueva transfer fee)

On the other figures you really are on your own with those figures. Are you saying that If Bentley was not sold we would have no money to spend?

Nicko has stated that the 10 million actually came from Hughes before he left- which was a result of the extra 20-25 million rovers received for a 7th place finish under the new TV rights deal. 10 million sounds about right if you take this on board

[philipl]

The £10m has substance as I have repeatedly shown.

You see you are every bit as fallible as anybody else.