[Archived] 2 Million Unemployed By Christmas

[Sandiway Blue]

Look on the bright side : they'll be able to have a chat in the WMC with the unemployed from the Thatcher era.

Looks like `new labours` arrogance has rubbed off on it`s supporters eh?

By the way most WMC`s are closed down these days,unlike labour,times change.

[Bazzanotsogreat]

I say it's time the Lib Dems were given a chance. I would rather vote Labour again then give the Tories another crack. Better the devil you know and all that.

Pathetic

[thenodrog]

I say it's time the Lib Dems were given a chance. I would rather vote Labour again then give the Tories another crack. Better the devil you know and all that.

You are obviously a deep political thinker Elijah. Without googling can you tell us who is leader of that party?

I would imagine the entire party would run for cover if they even looked like getting elected. LibDem MP must be the second best job in politics after Euro MP's of course.

[Amo]

You are obviously a deep political thinker Elijah.

It's not worth getting deep and meaningful over politics, they're all out for themselves anyway.

All I'm saying is, Labour & the Tories have screwed up in recent years so give the Lib Dems a chance.

[scotchrover]

And the last 11 years have been marvellous?

We have a government leading us into recession with jobs being lost left right and centre.The company i work for let 10 people go last month and for the first time in 12 years of working there,we never got an annual pay rise.Also my 2 brother-in-laws have just been put on a 4 day week (that should bring back memories for our commie buddies )at the company they work for.

We have a government who has invaded Iraq solely for the purpose of their oil fields-no other reason.

We have a government who lets energy companies raise prices by up to 35 PERCENT ANNUALLY (even though average salaries will be lucky to see a 3 percent rise) because they know the government are too gutless to do anything about it.

We have a government who blights our landscape by putting huge hideous wind farms over our countryside which half the time aren`t even switched on and produce little power.

We have a government who patronises everybody by telling them to think of the environment,even though they drive around in gas guzzlers themselves.

When the conservatives were booted out of Downing Street it was because change was needed,just the same as after 11 years of labour rule a change NOW is also needed.

We have to renationalise the energy companies

Stuff the environment- who cares if its's going to get hotter eh?

If you vote Tory, you'll regret it for however long they stay in power. THEY WILL FINNISH THE JOB OF SHUTING THE NORTH DOWN THIS TIME.

Any northern torys have to be thick as Thatcher started the North South divide.

VOTE LIB DEM

[Sandiway Blue]

We have to renationalise the energy companies

Stuff the environment- who cares if its's going to get hotter eh?

If you vote Tory, you'll regret it for however long they stay in power. THEY WILL FINNISH THE JOB OF SHUTING THE NORTH DOWN THIS TIME.

Any northern torys have to be thick as Thatcher started the North South divide.

VOTE LIB DEM

Totally agree on your first point,however considering the sh*t summer we have just had you must be joking about your second point?I think it was last year when scientists actually claimed that the ozone layer is repairing itself?And if you think a couple of wind farms is going to offset the mass pollution caused by China,India and the U.S then you are as puddled as this potty government!Or maybe the wind farms are there to offset the pollution caused by the tanks rumbling illegally across the Iraqi desert.

[thenodrog]

We have to renationalise the energy companies

Stuff the environment- who cares if its's going to get hotter eh?

If you vote Tory, you'll regret it for however long they stay in power. THEY WILL FINNISH THE JOB OF SHUTING THE NORTH DOWN THIS TIME.

Any northern torys have to be thick as Thatcher started the North South divide.

VOTE LIB DEM

Never mind that VOTE SCOTCHROVER FOR MOD!

[jim mk2]

Totally agree on your first point,however considering the sh*t summer we have just had you must be joking about your second point?I think it was last year when scientists actually claimed that the ozone layer is repairing itself?And if you think a couple of wind farms is going to offset the mass pollution caused by China,India and the U.S then you are as puddled as this potty government!Or maybe the wind farms are there to offset the pollution caused by the tanks rumbling illegally across the Iraqi desert.

It would appear that Call Me Dave is a big fan (geddit?) of green renewable energy too.

So vote Tory for a cleaner, better Britain ..... and pots more cash in the pockets of Tory-voting farmers

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/node/4693

[scotchrover]

Never mind that VOTE SCOTCHROVER FOR MOD!

HA HA.

However i could never be a mod as iam too anti thatcher and anti tory for some people on hear.

[thenodrog]

It would appear that Call Me Dave is a big fan (geddit?) of green renewable energy too.

So vote Tory for a cleaner, better Britain ..... and pots more cash in the pockets of Tory-voting farmers

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/node/4693

Your stupidity increases weekly as your love affair with the idiotic Brown flounders.

I should think that the main benefactors of renewable energy will be manufacturers of renewable equipment and installers of i.e. of plumbers and heating engineers. Some geezer has just canoed across the Arctic sea where once he'd have had to sledge and you put a political slant on it!

I was joking when I suggested that you would hope that the particle accelerator thwarts the tories by detroying the planet first ...... now I'm not sure.

HA HA.

However i could never be a mod as iam too anti thatcher and anti tory for some people on hear.

Yes I can hear thanks.

[blue phil]

Your stupidity increases weekly as your love affair with the idiotic Brown flounders.

Oh I don't know about that , Theno . Pretty soon there'll only be jimbo left who'll want to know the Brown boy ......

....a bit like Eva standing by her man in the bunker

[Bazzanotsogreat]

It's not worth getting deep and meaningful over politics, they're all out for themselves anyway.

All I'm saying is, Labour & the Tories have screwed up in recent years so give the Lib Dems a chance.

In one breath you say all political parties are out for ‘themselves’, then the next sentence, you say we proclaim; we give the one of the parties that are ‘only in for themselves’ a chance. Rather hypocritical don’t you think?

You rather sum up quite a large percentage of Liberal voters – In that, you don’t know what the parties philosophy is nor any of its current policies, yet you choose to tell everyone else that they ‘should be given a chance’. Based on what?

The mind boggles

[blue phil]

You rather sum up quite a large percentage of Liberal voters – In that, you don’t know what the parties philosophy is nor any of its current policies

THIS is what the Liberal Party stands for in Blackburn .

Very much like the Labour Party in many ways - dominated by a "minority" clique and corrupt to the very core .

[Flopsy]

good old tories

[Billy Castell]

Gives a new meaning to the term Swingometer.

Let's all vote for the silly candidates, and then we can have a monster raving loony party government. The 'proper' politicians are incapable, or just a load of arses, so lets kick them out and bring in the silly squad. Or perhaps we can vote UKIP. everyone blames the EU for almost everything, so perhaps we should vote for them.

[el_gringo_999@yahoo.co.uk]

I'm really not too familiar with any of the classic economic theorists . But I do know that communism runs counter to human behaviour and instinct and is totally impractical in the non theoretical world .

Free market principles at least are realistic in the real world and have something going for them - on an individual and national basis . I think that might mean I'm inclined to the Adam Smith breed of economics ......but I'm not sure

Smith breed economics would not allow the illigality of a single product which their is a market for - e.g drugs, for that is a barrier to trade. Smith himself also noted of 'Special Interests' which must be overcome in order to make his vision of unfettered capitalism work - stuff like bankers guilds, unions and chambers of commerce would be a big no-no.

I would associate the beliefs held in Smiths work to be those of a Lib Dem.

I would suggest you are more of a Friedrich Hayek or Milton Friedman (spose he can be classed as classical now hes gone?) type of guy, although I would hope you were not a Pinochet fan, as seems to go hand in hand.

[el_gringo_999@yahoo.co.uk]

We have a government who lets energy companies raise prices by up to 35 PERCENT ANNUALLY (even though average salaries will be lucky to see a 3 percent rise) because they know the government are too gutless to do anything about it.

We also appear to have an electorate without much of a clue. How is voting in a MORE liberal party going to put a reign on energy companies? If you are genuinely concerned about Energy prices, I am sure the BNP, SWP, or UKIP is a much wiser voting choice than a party whose core belief has always been the liberalisation of trade, therefore allowing companies to charge whatever they feel they can get away with.

The big problem in this respect is that the three British parties are far too similar. Utility companies know they can get away with far more because the government has no barrel to point at them. In some countries this is the threat of nationalisation (Venezuela have just nationalised, the reason being that the government felt not enough was being re-invested) from one party, in others the threat of closing in on future profits (e.g Yanks may vote Democrat and withold new opportunities for companies that would have been availble under Bush's 'return to Imperialism' if theyre bills go up too high), in others the threat of complete de-stabalisation (e.g civil war - not too profitable for energy companies).

[el_gringo_999@yahoo.co.uk]

THIS is what the Liberal Party stands for in Blackburn .

Very much like the Labour Party in many ways - dominated by a "minority" clique and corrupt to the very core .

Pretty much every academic study on the subject of party corruption has found that patronage, clientelism and corruption are massively increased when the political spectrum is narrow, and this in turn forces voting rates down.

[blue phil]

The political spectrum is bloody narrow all right in Blackburn . Traditional party ideological lines are virtually irrelevant . It's run more on tribal lines with the Asian councillors on hire to the highest bidder ...........and before that's construed as a racist comment they're now being joined in this manner by the For Darwen lot . No wonder people detest the lot of them .

Any more links to the political antics in the Midlands , Flopsy ? It'll be a welcome relief to read more of party councillors that really do look after their constituents' interests ......

[Flopsy]

Except they appear to charge you for the pleasure, and if you saw their faces you'ld expect them to pay you.

[blue phil]

You don't have to look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire , Flops

[Flopsy]

some of us dont subscribe to the Abbey school of pulling women.

She's a stumper and no mistake

[MCMC1875]

Back on topic - XL makes it another 1,700 out of work.

[jim mk2]

You know the world economy is in trouble when major banks start collapsing which is happening in the US with the demise of Lehman Brothers and 25,000 thrown out of work following on from the trouble at Bear Stearns only a few weeks ago.

Although Northern Rock has been nationalised and the Derbyshire and Cheshire building societies taken over by the Natiowide because they were effectively bust, all we need now is similar blood-letting in London with the collapse of a major bank (RBS is my favourite) and the bottom of this financial bear market might be near.

Not the collapse in house prices however - that has 2 more years at least to go.

[ABBEY]

some of us dont subscribe to the Abbey school of pulling women.

She's a stumper and no mistake

thats not my rule...mine was if she has a pulse and doesnt stink of pee ,then id hit it

keep me out the politic thread..