[Archived] Paul's Progress

[Tris]

I'll except i'm wrong IF Ince can increase the home crowd by 25% with his 'attractive football and a winning team' thats adding an extra 4k onto 17k taking the home crowd to 21k for me then that would show Paul Ince and his team being a success.

Early days

Implication being that Mark Hughes was an utter failure, given that crowds declined throughout his tenure?

[JAL]

Implication being that Mark Hughes was an utter failure, given that crowds declined throughout his tenure?

Its been documented by many posters on here that the quality of football at the home games last season under Hughes was poor so the challenge for Ince is to better Mark Hughes record thats the challenge maybe the PR side of Rovers may have to change aswell who knows.

[Tris]

Its been documented by many posters on here that the quality of football at the home games last season under Hughes was poor so the challenge for Ince is to better Mark Hughes record thats the challenge maybe the PR side of Rovers may have to change aswell who knows.

It makes a difference of a few hundred if that. You might have noticed people are losing their jobs left right and centre, but you're going to declare Ince a failure if crowds don't increase by 25%? And are implying Mark Hughes is to blame for the decline over the past few seasons regardless of outside factors.

I'm beginning to think you are simply on a wind up.

[my_name_is_Earl]

Great to see Ince coming over and applauding the fans yesterday ... I don't remember Hughes ever being so demonstrative.

I agree, he is much more aware of the fans and seems more enthusiastic about developing a relationship then Hughes. Hughes was certainly out for himself rather than the club and to be fair who can complain, he took us forward.

Ince actually reminds me, certinaly on the basis of personality, of Graeme Souness who repeatedly acknowledged that football is for the fans, the most famous line being 'I want the fans to enjoy their pint after the game'. I think Ince is keen to portray himself as a 'fans man' and long may it continue.

[Mr Creosote]

It makes a difference of a few hundred if that. You might have noticed people are losing their jobs left right and centre, but you're going to declare Ince a failure if crowds don't increase by 25%? And are implying Mark Hughes is to blame for the decline over the past few seasons regardless of outside factors.

I'm beginning to think you are simply on a wind up.

JAL and his chums have used a Burnley victory and a Chelsea signing as sticks to beat Ince with so why not the size of the gates?

[otto man]

what an exellent post - well done mate! spot on

No it's not! He's slating others for expressing their opinions(how ever unpopular) then using a 3 game run to point out just how wrong the skeptics are and then to cap it all(the most ironic bit now) He sits on the fence with his own opinion( well Ince could do well , then again, he might not, ooh er I just can't decide).... The mind boggles!

[thenodrog]

At this rate we will be safe from relegation after 15 games or so!

Well done Ince

Why are we allowed to be allowed to play Everton, Necastle and Fulham every week?

[AussieinUk]

Three on the bounce and a tricky fixture to come. :rovers:

As, I said on another thread - Well done to PI and the team!

We really need this decent run to continue, but I wont expect much from the next game..

[Mr Creosote]

No it's not! He's slating others for expressing their opinions(how ever unpopular) then using a 3 game run to point out just how wrong the skeptics are and then to cap it all(the most ironic bit now) He sits on the fence with his own opinion( well Ince could do well , then again, he might not, ooh er I just can't decide).... The mind boggles!

No he isn't. He is allowing the guy a chance. Unlike some on here who simply wont because they "dont like him", "he's thick", "he's a cocky Cockney" and other *ahem* reasons .

[JAL]

It makes a difference of a few hundred if that. You might have noticed people are losing their jobs left right and centre, but you're going to declare Ince a failure if crowds don't increase by 25%? And are implying Mark Hughes is to blame for the decline over the past few seasons regardless of outside factors.

I'm beginning to think you are simply on a wind up.

No, just trying to say increased interest in Rovers would mean that Paul Ince is a success, maybe an extra 4k on the home crowd might be a little bit excessive in the current economic climate but it has to moving close to that target for me.

Thoroughly looking forward to christmas when Fowlers contract is terminated and some new exciting players are brought in.

[1864roverite]

AndyC

Thanks for your comments.

I have never actually not been warm to PI, its the lack of purchase of a top quality midfielder to replace Bentley that I am still sore at.

I reiterate, PI came to Rovers when we were already established in the top 7. The team wasnt broken, it wasnt underskilled and it had a serious work ethic. All it needed was tinkering and a bit of tlc after the upheaval of summer.

I am only against him for the signing sof Fowler and Andrews when IMO and I repeat IMO we could and should have aimed higher.

Despite my opinions on those two, I have never faltered in my actual support for BRFC. Granted, I couldnt be bothered versus Everton at home but the pricing issues were off the mark for a cup game.

I will be back in my seat for Saturday's entertainment versus the real red scum

[dr_awol]

Thoroughly looking forward to christmas when Fowlers contract is terminated and some new exciting players are brought in.

i think we will be buying Villanueva for at around 5m in jan?

Fowlers seams to be doing alrite atm

I have never actually not been warm to PI, its the lack of purchase of a top quality midfielder to replace Bentley that I am still sore at.

just because Villanueva does not play in the same pos as bentley, does not mean he cant give the same amount of creative input as bentley, assist dont always have to be from the wings

but i think we will prob buy a right winger to replace bentley, but i think it would be more an up and coming type , one for the next season.

[imy9]

AndyC

Thanks for your comments.

I have never actually not been warm to PI, its the lack of purchase of a top quality midfielder to replace Bentley that I am still sore at.

I reiterate, PI came to Rovers when we were already established in the top 7. The team wasnt broken, it wasnt underskilled and it had a serious work ethic. All it needed was tinkering and a bit of tlc after the upheaval of summer.

I am only against him for the signing sof Fowler and Andrews when IMO and I repeat IMO we could and should have aimed higher.

Despite my opinions on those two, I have never faltered in my actual support for BRFC. Granted, I couldnt be bothered versus Everton at home but the pricing issues were off the mark for a cup game.

I will be back in my seat for Saturday's entertainment versus the real red scum

We may have been a top 7 team last year but having lost Bentley and Brad, a new team coming in and with every club spending ludicrous amounts of money, it was always going to be difficult to replicate this- a prime reason why Hughes jumped shipped.

I would also point to the fact that we had a number of key players in our first team who had handed in transfers, that does not reflect a happy camp, the final game of the season made the lack of unity apparent for all to see.

Man City- £67 million plus

Villa- £40 million plus

Bolton- £17 million

Fulham- £22 million plus

Portsmouth- £16 million plus

I could go on but it is tough to compete and IMO the only way forward for us (unless we get a new benefactor) is to develop our youth team, the likes of Olsson, Treacy, Judge etc must be developed, that is the harsh reality of life.

[Amo]

I am still sceptical about Ince's appointment, and the signings of Andrews & Fowler, but credit to him for the positive steps the team has been making recently. He's not been afraid to chop and change both formation and personnel, and more importantly it's paying off. So I'm not gonna fault the guy for that, and long may it continue.

[cn_barlow]

I would also point to the fact that we had a number of key players in our first team who had handed in transfers, that does not reflect a happy camp

I've asked this on another thread previously but dont think it was answered....who were these players who handed in requests? There were 6 werent there?

[thenodrog]

...... the final game of the season made the lack of unity apparent for all to see.

Not how I rem it. Freidel spewed a simple save to give them the lead and then I saw Rovers having by far the best of the game with RSC playing a blinder before we got suckered by a series of break away goals.

[imy9]

Ooijer, Brad, Bentley, The Axe, Roberts, thats 5 definates and I think the 6 one was Rigters but not sure on that one.

Five first team players handing in requests is not the sign of a happy camp IMO.

Remember we also had Benni and Zurab unhappy too.

Not how I rem it. Freidel spewed a simple save to give them the lead and then I saw Rovers having by far the best of the game with RSC playing a blinder before we got suckered by a series of break away goals.

Football is about opinions and I saw a defence in turmoil, a team lacking in fight that was dominated by a rampant Blues side.

http://www.skysports.com/football/match_re...2849476,00.html

"Well deserved win"

[thenodrog]

Ooijer, Brad, Bentley, The Axe, Roberts, thats 5 definates and I think the 6 one was Rigters but not sure on that one.

Five first team players handing in requests is not the sign of a happy camp IMO.

Remember we also had Benni and Zurab unhappy too.

Are you certain that they all put in actual transfer requests last season? I'm not. I think you need to check your facts.

http://www.skysports.com/football/match_re...2849476,00.html

As I said, we were bossing the 2nd half until the breakaways.

[imy9]

I am sure BUT even if no one handed in a transfer request, each one made it known openly that they wanted to move, this again does not reflect a happy camp.

EIGHT players from the first team is a huge number of unhappy players.

[thenodrog]

I am sure BUT even if no one handed in a transfer request, each one made it known openly that they wanted to move, this again does not reflect a happy camp.

EIGHT players from the first team is a huge number of unhappy players.

You are using too much spin. Personally I can only rem Roberts actually asking for a transfer. Apart from Benny and Bents the rest were only 'unhappy' because they couldn't get into the team and that will always happen.

[JAL]

i think we will be buying Villanueva for at around 5m in jan?

Fowlers seams to be doing alrite atm

Fowler is doing nothing, hes contributing the square root of diddly squat for the first team at Rovers!.

[Billy Castell]

He set up Olsson's winner in the league cup, so he's done something. Although JAL will say it was a terribly mis-hit shot, alien mind control or something.

Paul has seemingly stabilised things after the rather mad pre-season and first few games. We have bounced back after a couple of tonkings, and the team is starting to gel. We are winning games, and being a little less turgid than the last few months under Hughes. Things are going OK.

[JAL]

He set up Olsson's winner in the league cup, so he's done something. Although JAL will say it was a terribly mis-hit shot, alien mind control or something.

Waiting for this, he set up Olssons winner with a bog standard pass, when it was Olsson who had to do all the hard work to score his goal, sorry Billy just not good enough any professional player could have done what Folwer did there.

[cn174]

Waiting for this, he set up Olssons winner with a bog standard pass, when it was Olsson who had to do all the hard work to score his goal, sorry Billy just not good enough any professional player could have done what Folwer did there.

I bet Jason Roberts couldn't

[AggyBlue]

I bet Jason Roberts couldn't

Don't take him on, he's not a Rovers supporter.