[Archived] A Break With Tradition

[ABBEY]

Interesting comment but the 'rebranding' of the Premier League from the Premiership is only a word change rather than the more dramatic formation of the Premiership. Truth be told, winning the top division in this country is still a damn fine achievement whatever it's called and that achievement is more spectacular given the domination of two clubs (with the addition of Chelsea) in the last 17 years.

Oh, the idea that PNE fans hate us as much as Burnley fans is quite wide of the mark. They tend to dislike you lot and Blackpool a great deal more. Years past, many fans went to PNE at home one weekend and Rovers the next. I doubt that fits in with the accepted view of football history and rivalry but it's the truth.

the nobenders i know HATE rovers and are worse than burnley for thinking they are the biggest club in the world...

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

I have to agree with Abby there,bigger chips on their shoulders than our Clarrot 'friends' those Preston lot when it comes to Rovers.

'BIG CITY' status they may have but P.N.E. lets them down.

[SD4E]

I have to agree with Abby there,bigger chips on their shoulders than our Clarrot 'friends' those Preston lot when it comes to Rovers.

'BIG CITY' status they may have but P.N.E. lets them down.

i always viewed PNE as a smaller nephew, the type you would pat on the head at christmas and say "ahhhh" to.

[den]

i always viewed PNE as a smaller nephew, the type you would pat on the head at christmas and say "ahhhh" to.

I'd pat their fans on the head with a shovel.

[Hughesy]

A real Sky-subscribing, Barmy Army, 'soccer' fan comment.

Anyhow, you won the 'Premiership', not the 'Premier League'.. so you've never won it either.

I never mentioned the league name, so you picking up on the league's renaming is sad. It wasnt reformatted then was it - just a simple name change. They didnt change the number of teams or anything like that. CHAMPIONS 94-95 - STILL hurts you doesnt it!!

As for Sky-subscribing - I dont have sky, I have a season ticket and have had for the last 15 years...and counting.

Doubt you go to Turd moor to watch the games, unless of course you are 1 of the very few that do especially with an average gate of just over 12,000 and the biggest gate being 16,000 despite your best season for years! Pathetic excuse for a football club.

Oh yeah almost forgot.... Only 10 days until its been 30 years.....AND COUNTING!!!

Also not far since 95 years since Burnley won a domestic cup final - Think our last one was 7 year ago - Happy Anniversary!!

[SamDingle]

I never mentioned the league name, so you picking up on the league's renaming is sad. It wasnt reformatted then was it - just a simple name change. They didnt change the number of teams or anything like that. CHAMPIONS 94-95 - STILL hurts you doesnt it!!

As for Sky-subscribing - I dont have sky, I have a season ticket and have had for the last 15 years...and counting.

Doubt you go to Turd moor to watch the games, unless of course you are 1 of the very few that do especially with an average gate of just over 12,000 and the biggest gate being 16,000 despite your best season for years! Pathetic excuse for a football club.

Oh yeah almost forgot.... Only 10 days until its been 30 years.....AND COUNTING!!!

Also not far since 95 years since Burnley won a domestic cup final - Think our last one was 7 year ago - Happy Anniversary!!

Two things I've noticed. You're quite angry and have a council estate dog.

Oh and a third.. you never set foot in Ewood until Jersey Jack turned up with his cash.

[ABBEY]

1/ .30 years and still counting,hurt angry? lets see hurt angry....your own town centre smashed to smithereens ,your managers wife set on fire.

2/ he might have a dog he may not but id bet he hasnt banged it like you lot do.

3/ some of us have been lifelong fans and some of us have not crowds not reaching 2000.

[Billy Castell]

2/ he might have a dog he may not but id bet he hasnt banged it like you lot do.

You met his sister then?

Oh and Husghsey's dog looks gorgeous.

[yoda]

A real Sky-subscribing, Barmy Army, 'soccer' fan comment.

Anyhow, you won the 'Premiership', not the 'Premier League'.. so you've never won it either.

We never won the 4th division either!

[1864roverite]

No break in tradition there Shaun, say it as you mean it

There is no argument to had my little burnley friends, no matter what the hate, what you think or what you hope for, Rovers and Burnely do not stand comparison, in any way, shape or form. The exception being that we share the same County as our host (well almost !).

I am not bitter towards our local "rivals", as a Rovers fan from the 70's I was simply brought up to despise everything associated with the word Burnley and clarrot and blue. That was the way of a Rovers supporter back then and it is kind of hard to rid oneself of that trait.

I love when we play them, I love it when they spout nonsense and I love when they get beat.

Thing is, it has been such a long time since I felt deflated when they beat us that I really do believe in the fact that time really does heal wounds.

Over the years we have felt sadness at Ewood. Relegation, Jacks death, the Kidd era and the Ince era. That was nothing to the feeling when the dingles beat us. That feeling has never since been repeated in 30 years nor is it likely to be

[thenodrog]

All in all I don't see it as much of an option, despite it making complete business sense.

Ah there's the rub......

Truth is lots of people criticise but very few offer a viable alternative for a future of football at the top table for any local club! Just why are so many happy to be football minnows?

[ABBEY]

gord it would be a no goer from the start there is no way on earth that rovers ,dingles ,nobenders or the donkey lashers could mix week in week out peacefully.

[Fife Rover]

Interesting comment but the 'rebranding' of the Premier League from the Premiership is only a word change rather than the more dramatic formation of the Premiership. Truth be told, winning the top division in this country is still a damn fine achievement whatever it's called and that achievement is more spectacular given the domination of two clubs (with the addition of Chelsea) in the last 17 years.

Oh, the idea that PNE fans hate us as much as Burnley fans is quite wide of the mark. They tend to dislike you lot and Blackpool a great deal more. Years past, many fans went to PNE at home one weekend and Rovers the next. I doubt that fits in with the accepted view of football history and rivalry but it's the truth.

And I can definitely vouch for that. I was one of them, who along with hundreds of others used to crowd onto dozens of coaches from Robinsons and Ribblesdale etc at the old coach park behind Ainsworth St every other Saturday. Did it for years, but gave up when Sir Tom decided to call it a day in 1960.

[Fife Rover]

Ah there's the rub......

Truth is lots of people criticise but very few offer a viable alternative for a future of football at the top table for any local club! Just why are so many happy to be football minnows?

There is a very simple answer to that question Theno. Which is: I am a Rovers fan and before I would prostitute my allegiance to Rovers by supporting any other club in the same way as I feel about Rovers I would much rather just retire gracefully from all football supporting. And before you or any body else decides to leap onto the fact that I already do support other clubs here in Fife, I would point out that my feelings for those clubs is one of fondness, not a lifelong love affair. I have throughout my long career lived in many different parts of the UK and have always found a nearby football club to "support" for the duration of my stay, never have I regarded any of them with the feelings I have for my beloved Blackburn Rovers, nor ever could do.

[thenodrog]

gord it would be a no goer from the start there is no way on earth that rovers ,dingles ,nobenders or the donkey lashers could mix week in week out peacefully.

They do at England games abbey.

[thenodrog]

There is a very simple answer to that question Theno. Which is: I am a Rovers fan and before I would prostitute my allegiance to Rovers by supporting any other club in the same way as I feel about Rovers I would much rather just retire gracefully from all football supporting. And before you or any body else decides to leap onto the fact that I already do support other clubs here in Fife, I would point out that my feelings for those clubs is one of fondness, not a lifelong love affair. I have throughout my long career lived in many different parts of the UK and have always found a nearby football club to "support" for the duration of my stay, never have I regarded any of them with the feelings I have for my beloved Blackburn Rovers, nor ever could do.

You nad I don't really count Fife. The future is with the kids..... and i'm sure that most of them would want top football. Just as a matter of interest how many of our objectors to LU actally live outside of Blackburn but within Lancashire? The way immigrants are multiplying means by definition that our indigenous population is falling so we need to appeal to a wider audience and having 'Blackburn' in the name hardly helps that in the long term does it?

People! If you want to add to the debate then HEADS OVER HEARTS please!

[jim mk2]

People! If you want to add to the debate then HEADS OVER HEARTS please!

Give it a rest Gordon. Football is an affair of the heart, which is why people love Rovers and hate Burnley and vice versa. Some mutant club would never work.

[ABBEY]

They do at England games abbey.

not week in week out they dont and when feelings are running high there true colurs will show....im rovers til i die ...i would NEVER go to watch let alone support your LUFC.

[thenodrog]

not week in week out they dont and when feelings are running high there true colurs will show....im rovers til i die ...i would NEVER go to watch let alone support your LUFC.

Dont matter too much cos your kids would Abbs and thats what counts most.

[ABBEY]

my kids wouldnt gord,one dont care much for footy and the youngest is a rover and is worse than me over passion hahaha

[tonygreenbank]

Just reflect on these acts of thuggery!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRKdtm6LjSs

[TimmyJimmy]

Just as a matter of interest how many of our objectors to LU actally live outside of Blackburn but within Lancashire? The way immigrants are multiplying means by definition that our indigenous population is falling so we need to appeal to a wider audience and having 'Blackburn' in the name hardly helps that in the long term does it?

thenodrog, you know I agree with your views on this and believe that the only way a 'rebranding' could work is to drop the name Blackburn and keep the name Rovers then work hard to "build the franchise" as the money boys say but ... I think we all know this is not going to happen despite it being business sensible. All changes of this magnitude need revolution not evolution. Until everything is broken down and gone then there could never be a club that all mill towns could support, passions and history are just too deep. We could never transition from where we are now into just Rovers. IF we get relegated AND continue to fall through the divisions to obscurity ie when it's gone and over we could rebuild and your ideas would then be mega sensible. If money, or lack of it, kills off the other local teams then we may see a drift to a neutral Rovers team but it would take generations to build new allegiances and passions. The trustees seem hell bent on killing us off by neglect so we may not have too long to wait... enter our hero BFS from stage left giving the finger to the Jersey boys passions live on In the meantime this is all good knock around stuff and I love it, but the reality is that your idea is an idea before its time, a good one, perhaps inevitable but I think we'll have to die first.

[thenodrog]

All changes of this magnitude need revolution not evolution. Until everything is broken down and gone then there could never be a club that all mill towns could support, passions and history are just too deep. We could never transition from where we are now into just Rovers. IF we get relegated AND continue to fall through the divisions to obscurity ie when it's gone and over we could rebuild and your ideas would then be mega sensible. If money, or lack of it, kills off the other local teams then we may see a drift to a neutral Rovers team but it would take generations to build new allegiances and passions. The trustees seem hell bent on killing us off by neglect so we may not have too long to wait... enter our hero BFS from stage left giving the finger to the Jersey boys passions live on In the meantime this is all good knock around stuff and I love it, but the reality is that your idea is an idea before its time, a good one, perhaps inevitable but I think we'll have to die first.

1. "All changes of this magnitude need revolution not evolution." I think you intended that the other way around Timmy.

2. "IF we get relegated AND continue to fall through the divisions to obscurity ie when it's gone and over we could rebuild and your ideas would then be mega sensible." You are way way wrong there mate. One must always try to negotiate from a position of power NOT one of weakness.

3. "The trustees seem hell bent on killing us off by neglect" I'm not having that at all. If they were so callous they'd have sold us twice over, and as I have posted somewhere else taking the current financial malise into account that would have been absolutely horrific. There are a lot of shallow thinkers on here who should be lining up right now to publically eat large doses of humble pie. I doubt we'll see it though.... Nobody likes admitting that they were wrong do they?

[TimmyJimmy]

1. "All changes of this magnitude need revolution not evolution." I think you intended that the other way around Timmy.

2. "IF we get relegated AND continue to fall through the divisions to obscurity ie when it's gone and over we could rebuild and your ideas would then be mega sensible." You are way way wrong there mate. One must always try to negotiate from a position of power NOT one of weakness.

3. "The trustees seem hell bent on killing us off by neglect" I'm not having that at all. If they were so callous they'd have sold us twice over, and as I have posted somewhere else taking the current financial malise into account that would have been absolutely horrific. There are a lot of shallow thinkers on here who should be lining up right now to publically eat large doses of humble pie. I doubt we'll see it though.... Nobody likes admitting that they were wrong do they?

1. No that is the way I meant it, we will never do a hearts and minds and somehow evolve into 'The Rovers' or Lancs United or whatever, nobody wants it and no one is willing to give up what they already have/enjoy/hold dear. Lord forbid that we crash and burn as a club but that's the only scenario where that idea would work. If the clubs gone and all the bits are broken and cannot be reassembled then it's time for new thinking and a new (even improved?) club can emerge from the ashes appealing to a wider fan base, hence revolution, something has to be broke (badly) before we improve things. For me that's one of two benefits of relegation, a) I get to see real football against real teams who are supported by fans who are there because the love their clubs ie not the prawn sandwich brigade and things will get better in the long run. Don't get me wrong I desperately don't want us to go down, this is just an interesting discussion you raise, but if we did then maybe short term pain long term gain. We certainly aren't going anywhere fast with the current set up.

2. I'll leave that one, I have no problem in being wrong but it seems to be a logical option you (and me) put forward to an empty audience, no position of strength as most people on here (ie the true supports) Don't want it. It's still a good idea though.

3. For those that know me I defend the club and everyone associated with until the end. I remain the biggest advocate of all the lost causes, Souness, Ince, Kidd, I never see things are going bad before others and I'm a slow learner. But at least I do learn, it's taken a long time but at last my eyes are open, this Jersey lot are a proper shower. Not because they want to sell, that's their right, but because they choose not to sell and then starve the club of funds to develop. The world has changed, you cannot survive in the EPL without constant change/renewal in the squad and that takes money. If you don't want to spend any cash and want to sell - then sell, if you want to hang on to the club then you also have to spend. ###### or get off the pot. All this crumbs from the Lords table stuff is just making our death slow and painful. Message from me to the Trustees - get behind us or get out of our way.

[TimmyJimmy]

just read what I wrote, can't use these rubbish editors, so the smiley face wasn't meant and the hash symbols should read SH1T