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I'll repeat what I asked yesterday if anyone can help.

I want to watch this game but I'm flying out from Liverpool Airport at 7pm.

Does anyone know a decent pub close to Liverpool Airport that will definitely have the game on.

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Clarette Burnley? Surely he should have been reported to the NSPCC for that? Some dude down Devon way called his son Burnlee apparently I read in a magazine recently.

Good job we're not daft enough to do that sort of thing and it's only the dog that gets called Rover!

Never mind, she will be happy with a bit of blue inside her :blink:

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Clarette Burnley? Surely he should have been reported to the NSPCC for that? Some dude down Devon way called his son Burnlee apparently I read in a magazine recently.

Good job we're not daft enough to do that sort of thing and it's only the dog that gets called Rover!

Is that as bad as John "Portsmouth Football club" Westwood...I

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4 scum giving it large in the yard today man i hope to give em ###### on tuesday...told em not to shag there sister on wembley way as they will get arrested ...SCUM

I've got half a dozen lifelong bas*ard fan mates and am currently working in Sheffield.

I'm not entertaining thoughts of defeat. It would be time to shuffle off this mortal coil.

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I've got half a dozen lifelong bas*ard fan mates and am currently working in Sheffield.

I'm not entertaining thoughts of defeat. It would be time to shuffle off this mortal coil.

Not long to go then!

:rover:

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I've got half a dozen lifelong bas*ard fan mates and am currently working in Sheffield.

I'm not entertaining thoughts of defeat. It would be time to shuffle off this mortal coil.

As someone who has been disappointed with Longsider's reaction to the stick he has been getting-on a Rovers' website-and having previously enjoyed his contributions, I must say I was amused by Sam.

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As a journalist once famously said, we are, after all a real football town unlike Blackburn. :closedeyes:

Ah-ha .... I remember this misleading and mischievous quote very well. It appeared in the Observer newspaper almost exactly ten years ago in a match report for the Rovers 'v' Nottingham Forest relegation-six-pointer. Rovers were beaten and effectively relegated ... and the reporter, one Ian Whittell, interpreted the atmosphere of doom and gloom shrouding Ewood as apathy.

To put the record straight and educate the seriously deluded hack I sent him the following reply:-

Dear Mr Whittell,

I have just finished reading your match report of the Blackburn/Forest match; you certainly know how to kick a fan when he is down. I have no complaints at all relating to your condemnation of the rag-tag bunch of spineless misfits currently masquerading as a team in the famous Blue and White Halves. No, my beef concerns your perpetuation of the myth that Burnley is somehow more of a football town than Blackburn. Let me enlighten you with a few facts preventing you from making this same mistake again:-

1) In their most recent top-division days Burnley regularly failed to attract 20,000; indeed in both 1968-69 and 1973-74, average gates were the lowest in the division.

2) In March 1975 Burnley, then second placed in the first division, hosted Arsenal; the gate that day being a disappointing 17,539 (and you dare to call our gate of 24,565 against Forest disappointing).

3) In Burnley’s near-disastrous season of 1986-87 gates regularly fell below 2,000, with an all-time low of 1,696 against Colchester on 4th November 1986. (Nothing like turning out for the lads when they need you).

4) Blackburn’s record attendance - 61,783. Burnley’s record attendance - 54,775

5) Pro-rata Blackburn’s support is arguably one of the best in the country. Due to it’s location the town has virtualy no hinterland. Five miles to the south, Bolton territory; five miles to the west, Preston territory; five miles to the east Burnley territory; five miles to the north, sheep!. These boundaries are physical and therefore limit Blackburn’s potential to 138,000 made up of Blackburn itself (105,000) and it’s satellite Darwen (33,000). With this in mind an average gate of 25,000 is remarkable. Burnley while being of modest size itself (90,900) has the undivided attention of it’s satellites;- Nelson (30,453), Rossendale (20,000),Colne (20,000), Padiham (10,000) plus to the west a large band of disenfranchised soccer fans from the Yorkshire rugby area around Keighley. Even with it’s larger hinterland and cheaper tickets Burnley’s average attendance has failed to reach half that of it’s bitter rivals. If a club like Newcastle United, with the luxury of a massive hinterland, could attract the same density of support as the Rovers they would need to increase the capacity of St James Park to over 75,000.

To conclude, please research your subject before making off the cuff remarks. To Blackburn people the Rovers football club is everything. Please don’t belittle it.

yours in sport

I never did get a reply!

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Ah-ha .... I remember this misleading and mischievous quote very well. It appeared in the Observer newspaper almost exactly ten years ago in a match report for the Rovers 'v' Nottingham Forest relegation-six-pointer. Rovers were beaten and effectively relegated ... and the reporter, one Ian Whittell, interpreted the atmosphere of doom and gloom shrouding Ewood as apathy.

To put the record straight and educate the seriously deluded hack I sent him the following reply:-

Dear Mr Whittell,

I have just finished reading your match report of the Blackburn/Forest match; you certainly know how to kick a fan when he is down. I have no complaints at all relating to your condemnation of the rag-tag bunch of spineless misfits currently masquerading as a team in the famous Blue and White Halves. No, my beef concerns your perpetuation of the myth that Burnley is somehow more of a football town than Blackburn. Let me enlighten you with a few facts preventing you from making this same mistake again:-

1) In their most recent top-division days Burnley regularly failed to attract 20,000; indeed in both 1968-69 and 1973-74, average gates were the lowest in the division.

2) In March 1975 Burnley, then second placed in the first division, hosted Arsenal; the gate that day being a disappointing 17,539 (and you dare to call our gate of 24,565 against Forest disappointing).

3) In Burnley’s near-disastrous season of 1986-87 gates regularly fell below 2,000, with an all-time low of 1,696 against Colchester on 4th November 1986. (Nothing like turning out for the lads when they need you).

4) Blackburn’s record attendance - 61,783. Burnley’s record attendance - 54,775

5) Pro-rata Blackburn’s support is arguably one of the best in the country. Due to it’s location the town has virtualy no hinterland. Five miles to the south, Bolton territory; five miles to the west, Preston territory; five miles to the east Burnley territory; five miles to the north, sheep!. These boundaries are physical and therefore limit Blackburn’s potential to 138,000 made up of Blackburn itself (105,000) and it’s satellite Darwen (33,000). With this in mind an average gate of 25,000 is remarkable. Burnley while being of modest size itself (90,900) has the undivided attention of it’s satellites;- Nelson (30,453), Rossendale (20,000),Colne (20,000), Padiham (10,000) plus to the west a large band of disenfranchised soccer fans from the Yorkshire rugby area around Keighley. Even with it’s larger hinterland and cheaper tickets Burnley’s average attendance has failed to reach half that of it’s bitter rivals. If a club like Newcastle United, with the luxury of a massive hinterland, could attract the same density of support as the Rovers they would need to increase the capacity of St James Park to over 75,000.

To conclude, please research your subject before making off the cuff remarks. To Blackburn people the Rovers football club is everything. Please don’t belittle it.

yours in sport

I never did get a reply!

Good stuff! I was actually at the game mentioned in point 2 (I think). I used to like Arsenal so my old man took me. I think it ended 3-3 and I seem to remember Alan Ball getting stick from the Burnley fans around us in the Bee hole end. That gate was about the same as we were getting in the third division. I remember being surprised about big gaps on the terraces even as a nipper. That and my old man cussing under his breath. He always referred to Burnley as "that shower of s***".

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I'll repeat what I asked yesterday if anyone can help.

I want to watch this game but I'm flying out from Liverpool Airport at 7pm.

Does anyone know a decent pub close to Liverpool Airport that will definitely have the game on.

Not many pubs near by I'm afraid.

The best thing to do would be to jump in a cab and go down Aigburth Road until you hit a pub.

If possible then watch the game in the city centre then hop on a bus to the Airport, although the bus ride will probably be 20 mins with all the stops.

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I'll repeat what I asked yesterday if anyone can help.

I want to watch this game but I'm flying out from Liverpool Airport at 7pm.

Does anyone know a decent pub close to Liverpool Airport that will definitely have the game on.

I don't know how much this will help but if you are taking your laptop with you and have sky, you could connect to the wifi in liverpool airport and watch it on sky player.

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If you take the Dingles estimation of the population of Burnley, which at 70,000 I think is seriously under egged, and the fact that they have 7,000 ST holders, ie 1 in 10 in the town have ST's (and I'll bet more like 9 in 10 have STD's!), by their own admission their support levels cant stand up to ours. Whatever the population of Blackburn is (Not including Darwen, as Burnley didnt include Nelson, Padiham etc), our ST numbers stand at what, 13,000, 14,000? My knowledge of the figures involved isnt great but Im sure I know who comes out on top...

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Anyone hear that ginger haired **** on talk sport with Ian Wright yesterday, talking about how burnley would fill 30k every week if they reached the premiership??

Tell you what we have some deluded, ill-informed individuals getting column inches and radio airspace these days.

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Reading the comments in the paper.

You have to laugh at little old burnley and Mr Fletchers efforts, what a bloody embarassment.

Thing is this -

No queueus for merchandise

No massed ranks of fans hoping for ticket returns

No happy atmosphere, the old dears going by were darting for the cheap meat at the local butchers shop

No honking from motorists (6th finger stuck up ahole)

and this loud mouthed ex-Bolton wannabee gobbing off about taking the coffers out of burnley f.

Point is Fletch, your club prices are more expensive than the rogue traders and THTAS why your fans are buying from them you idiot.

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