[Archived] Paul Ince

[roverfanuk]

Damn it... Turned tv onto Sky Sports News and the yellow banner was going across, thought. YES FINALLY!

Turns out to be a update on the Cricket!

[G Somerset Rover]

Ditto...I would imagine that tomorrow is D-day if Nicko's write up comes true.

If there's nothing by tomorrow evening then I'm guessing he'll be in charge for the Wigan game.

[martonrover]

Ditto...I would imagine that tomorrow is D-day if Nicko's write up comes true.

If there's nothing by tomorrow evening then I'm guessing he'll be in charge for the Wigan game.

Not quite that clear cut owing to the contractual/compensation issues involved.

Ray Harford,(R.I.P.),was sacked on a Friday.

[leftfooter]

I just found this in The People and when I googled Sunday People the thrid link I came to was this one Kiss N Sell Nice to see the paper has standards.

I'd like to hear Alan Nixon justify slaughtering Ince like this. All these little things written as fact, lets have some proof not tittle tattle or is Kiss N Sell in full flood around Ewood?

Paul you seem like a decent and loyal guy, but you come out with such nonsense sometimes, it's really hard to credit.

Proof? It's not a court case for goodness sake. And even if it was, there is enough circumstantial evidence built up against Ince for there to be at least a case to answer.

Do you really expect him to name his sources? Do you really believe that Nixon is fabricating what he has written or that he is being misled?

These allegations - I wouldn't even call them rumours any more - have been recounted in the public domain so often and with such detail that to dismiss them in the manner you do means that you are now (fair play to you, I understand that) willfully ignoring the reality of the situation.

[American]

Would the same person suggest that the relative success under Hughes, was nothing to do with Hughes, - it was all to do with JW?

No. Responsibilities on both sides.

Much like Hughes was finding with the bargain bin. You can get some good buys, but sometimes you end up with a Righters. Unfortunately, squads are large enough to handle a few bad buys, but management teams aren't.

[Roost]

Ditto...I would imagine that tomorrow is D-day if Nicko's write up comes true.

If there's nothing by tomorrow evening then I'm guessing he'll be in charge for the Wigan game.

B**LOCKS to what Nicko says anyway. What will happen will happen, we dont need some egocentric hack looking to get his ego stroked by saying ' I told you so' His piece about Ince was laughable and such a typical lazy jouno scribble.

We WILL be ok with Ince in charge and being at Ewood yesterday convinced me of that.

I for one cannot wait for the trip to wigan next saturday...........

One Love - BRFC

[philipl]

Other posters have heard similar - Philipl is one who springs to mind as someone who's had all sorts of abuse for refusing to name his sources. I'll be very interested to hear what he says now.

There is another possibility - that the board have had their hand forced by players and/or members of staff leaking information in an attempt to undermine a manager that they clearly do not like.

Thanks T4E.

I'm not going to add and to be honest it would mostly only be putting flesh onto the bones of things that have either appeared or been alluded to here already.

Ince and his people and the club and their people will no doubt be preparing for a robust discussion about compensation and getting their papers ready without needing to print out yet another page from brfcs.com

The more Rovers keep for the transfer kitty the better so far as I am concerned. Can anybody in all seriousness suggest that Ince has been worth his £1.5m a year pay rate?

There is a strange coincidence- Oliver Holt's now third public utterance about Rovers and racism has again happened when there has been a development which might cause a less tolerant Chairman than John Williams to dismiss the Manager. Holt's first innuendo laden piece appeared as Mr Ince was making an unfortunate start to his tenure at Ewood Park to say the least.

Quoting somebody, Holt is "out of order" in referring to Rovers supporters' web sites but sadly I can think of a tiny minority of three posters on this site (out of how many members now? - it is in the thousands) whom he could conceivably cite in his defence- (and I am most definitely not thinking of thenodrog). However, Holt in his besmurching of the good name of Rovers, Rovers' supporters and our forums is an absolute disgrace by any standards of decency, guilty of the lowest form of reprehensible journalism and utterly pathetic.

[DingleBaiter]

Some questions that article begs.

1. Will any new manager slacken the trustees tight grip on JW's cash? - Come on Fred ....

Fred who? Dibnah?

[Roost]

Fred who? Dibnah?

West........?

[Iceman]

Fred Kruger(sp)

[Stuart]

Fred who? Dibnah?

Flintstone

[JAL]

We WILL be ok with Ince in charge and being at Ewood yesterday convinced me of that.

I for one cannot wait for the trip to wigan next saturday...........

One Love - BRFC

How do you come to this conclusion after 5 months of consistantly poor decisions made by Paul Ince, even on saturday MGP goes off Derbyshire replaces him on the left wing. Is Ince completly stupid, then after many minutes he realises his mistake and takes Derbyshire off only for then to be replaced by the left winger who should have come on in the first place.

Nicko points out some of his mistakes there have been many more, it now looks like Paul Ince is trying to do what he should have doing several months ago - its too late now for Ince. Why should the club suffer anymore for his slack inability of being able to manage a premiership football club hes on a par with the infamous Harry Basset.

[Iceman]

Havent heard too much from Fred Walker, but hopefully things will change now.

[DingleBaiter]

The guy is obviously a fighter and won't leave until he is pushed out.

Nicko, your line on Ince/48 hrs in that article was pretty categoric, no grey area as I read it. The rest seemed to be regurgitated/new slant on old stuff that you've 'sat on' for the right reasons, as you've elaborated on in this thread.

Is that line above you creating a bit of 'wriggle room' (in case it doesn't happen) as you did when the Andrews deal looked a little shaky, or are you still adamant Ince will be gone within that 48 hours timescale?

Lastly, when does that 48 hours run out, so we can make arrangements for the celebration/mourning/wake? (17hrs & counting)

[Hughesy]

Its more likely to be a choice of this - so what would you take?

Ince out and new manager given £5m to spend + whatever is received for Roque (IF he goes)

Ince stays, still £5m and also Roque will definatley go.

[Iceman]

Yeah interesting,whats that all about mr nixon? 2 contrasting points you making, so im guessing you not 100℅ sure of this whole 48 hours story.

[DingleBaiter]

It'll be interesting to see whether the money issue is down to the trustees not trusting Ince with funds or simply we dont have any money!

I am confused as we should have had a £10 million kitty anyway, plus about £8 million to spare from Bents after sales, baffling where the money is going.

I'd suggest it's not the obvious conclusion people seem to be making about a perceived lack of funding. There's a difference between them not backing Ince until he's shown he's worth backing, or 'keeping one's powder dry' as a contingency as any new manager would require funding (to acquire, and players, and sacking compo)?

[leftfooter]

They are colleagues working for the same rag ffs Pafell! There's more chance of Glenn Miller landing in France tomorrow than of Nicko savaging Holt in print!

I disagree with the above sentiments.

I know for a fact that Nicko has sat on this knowledge for a long time.

By going in to print now, Nicko has undermined Holt's spurious and scurrilous agenda.

Basically he's set out a coherent case against Ince for his lack of competence and indeed professionalism to manage a Premier League club.

Compare this with Holt's emotional rabble rousing.

Basically, the best thing the club can do in order to silence Ince's lick-spittle media lackeys such as Lewis and Holt is to sack him forthwith.

Once Ince has been sacked; let's see Holt or Lewis then accuse JW or any of the Board of being motivated or influenced by racism.

Holt and Lewis should listen carefully; they will hear the libel court's gates creaking in the background...

[T4E]

Two very good posts in a row leftfooter - maybe you're not a complete ###### after all

[John]

Ince has always said he had respect for us because we are a family club. Maybe taking things too far though (extract from the article in the People):

The new Rovers manager raised more eyebrows when he brought his children into training - and also wanted to join in himself.

[DingleBaiter]

Ince was at the Liverpool academy watching his son 2 hours before the Sunderland game kicked off.

Are you sure? The game against Everton would have been over by 1230, so think it's unlikely Thomas would have been playing at 1300

[mattyboy6000]

oooh bold - oooh underline!!!

whoopdedoo.

[leftfooter]

So basically you've written a lot of slanderous crap about Ince in the Sunday People under the headline "Ince WILL be sacked within the next 48 hours" whereas in reality you're admitting on here you have no idea what the situation is.

If so, Ince is a wealthy man and can therefore afford the rich man's pleasure of resorting to the libel courts for seeing himself traduced in print.

Or he can come out and refute all the allegations on local media, point by point.

I suspect he'll do neither somehow.

P.S. Your posts regarding Nicko are becoming increasingly hysterical RB and I wonder why?

Maybe you should avoid stress for a while. Perhaps you need a holiday or you should take up a hobby instead; flower arranging perhaps?

[1864roverite]

B**LOCKS to what Nicko says anyway. What will happen will happen, we dont need some egocentric hack looking to get his ego stroked by saying ' I told you so' His piece about Ince was laughable and such a typical lazy jouno scribble.

We WILL be ok with Ince in charge and being at Ewood yesterday convinced me of that.

I for one cannot wait for the trip to wigan next saturday...........

One Love - BRFC

1 I despise the Mirror as a paper becasue its labour linked but please, Alan Nixon has at least backed up his stories and they have actually come true.

2. As for ego stroking ? Never had a scotsman in for that kind ot hing, its normally his sporran

3. if you think we are going to be okay with Ince and co, just what have you been drinking or taking at Ewood ? We have been dire at best whereas there is no word available to describe the worst efforts.

4. Wigan ? bigger hole than burnley. On a cold wintry day make sure that your warmed up for it because with Ince and co in charge you wont be jumping around, not in joyous scenes anyway. I would stand by for the emeeeeeeeeele and Zaki show, aided and abeted by camara and co.

It will not be pretty

[my_name_is_Earl]

I don't think Ince should be in charge for the Wigan game. It's another game out of the way to get some points and we cannot afford this. At any rate, the board should be making a statement one way or the other - back him or sack him. Do they not realise that such indecision is going to open up a pandoras box of rumours amongst fans which is the wrong thing to do whatever they decide. if they're going to keep him then he sure as heckfire could do with the backing, if not we shouldn't let the Wigan game approach without a new man in.