[Archived] Paul Ince

[rovgers]

If this is true then the easy way as been taken, the hard bit will be to get the new manager in as quick as possible.

Hope the board doesn't fart about like it did in the summer.

Heard that sunderland have received over 40 applicants, I wonder if the Rovers targets are amongst them?

[Hughesy]

Id like to see us move for Allardyce before the wigan game

[Fraserkirky]

If true, about time! Was willing to back him till saturday, but someone said early he was probably out before the liverpool game but nobody would want to come into the liverpool game!

Souness for me, will need a large transfer budget(Rsc money plus) but will get the job done.

Others Advocaat, Allardyce.

[joey_big_nose]

At the end of the day a manager lives and dies by his results.

I'd like to wish Paul Ince all the best for the future. I think he got a job at this level too soon but i believe that he could one day have a future as a premier league manager. I can't blame Ince for taking the job, who wouldn't? John Williams and the board have to take a huge amount of the blame for our current plight.

Well I hope he has re-evaluated how you approach beign a manager. He should take a long look at how much work and structure Highes applies to his methods and try to imitate it.

He obviously is good at developing rapport with players, and is not afraid of trying new things. But he needs to improve the organisational aspects and develop a proper thought out philosophy.

[AggyBlue]

He's gone, decided today at emergency meeting.

Then you woke up.

That'll teach you for falling asleep on the sofa

[roverfanuk]

For me his time had come... He hadnt got the results...

On one side i feel sorry for the guy. But on the other, i know the shedfull of cash he will get in the form of compo. Not to mention the rubbish he is likely to put into the media with regards to descrimination.

If he wants to get into management again, he is going to have to make the club a scapegoat for the form...

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Two good things if this is true apart from the obvious:

- We have 22 days to find a new manager to take on the task of getting us out the relegation zone

- We have 22 (+ Part of January) days for the manager to draw up a wish list for the transfer window...

[modes98]

Merged topics. You can claim this one if/when it comes out tomorrow Hughesy

I'm sure there will be no end of members wanting to confirm Ince leaving but as of this moment it's still speculation.

Daily Star - Ince has until Wigan Game.

[RevidgeBlue]

Not to mention the rubbish he is likely to put into the media with regards to descrimination.

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If it is indeed confirmed, what makes you say that?

That is grossly unfair and bang out of order.

[philipl]

Says the man who labelled Ince a nonce

In computing, the nonce is the new element which is introduced which enables the system to be hijacked or destroyed.

[hollowsr]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/col...icle5304254.ece

A good read in the times labeled as being today? Possibly a bit of a pop at Mr O Holt??

[DingleBaiter]

In computing, the nonce is the new element which is introduced which enables the system to be hijacked or destroyed.

Aren't they only used once though Philip? Then again, for some on here that would have been once too much

Then again, if they're different each time it could also apply to his first eleven

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

All this "confirmed" stuff is annoying. I'll take confirmed when the club announce it.

[philipl]

Aren't they only used once though Philip? Then again, for some on here that would have been once too much

Then again, if they're different each time it could also apply to his first eleven

I was thinking of the inital usage being the date of his appointment triggering a total rolling system failure thereafter.

[Exiled in Toronto]

In computing, the nonce is the new element which is introduced which enables the system to be hijacked or destroyed.

Then perhaps you'd better stick to using it on computer nerd message boards rather than general public colloquial ones where the word's more common usage might reasonably be deemed to apply. I'm sure you wouldn't want to be misunderstood...

[RevidgeBlue]

Then perhaps you'd better stick to using it on computer nerd message boards rather than general public colloquial ones where the word's more common usage might reasonably be deemed to apply. I'm sure you wouldn't want to be misunderstood...

[philipl]

What colloquial usage?

I have just looked it up and whilst I was aware previously of the word's old English etymology as meaning a singular event or unique individual but I was totally unaware it had a synonym in slang.

I sincerely apologise for any unintended offence- I genuinely did not know and I understand EiT's reaction now.

[RevidgeBlue]

Souness for me, will need a large transfer budget(Rsc money plus) but will get the job done.

Could anyone on here please come up with a plausible reason why Souness would be the answer to anyone's problems?

After three good seasons with us he lost the plot completely, and left us on the brink of destruction, relegation bound with an aging squad worth next to nothing. God bless you Mark Hughes.

He then went on to fail miserably at Newcastle. if you look on Wikipedia it says one of their Season review DVD's has Shay Given commenting on a bad atmosphere on the training ground and bust ups with players. Nothing new there then.

The main concern though has to be over his transfer dealings. On Wikipedia it comments on Souness's first foray into the transfer market at Newcastle was for Boumsong for 8.2m - a player who had been available on a free transfer months previously. The transfer was so odd it attracted the attention of the Stephens inquiry - although no evidence of irregular payments was found.

The selling club, surprise, surprise, Rangers. The agent: surprise, surprise Willie Mckay. (Who I think you'll also find was involved in most of Souness's duff deals here)

He's been out of work since being sacked in Feb 2006 - obviously no-one else wants him.

How could we even contemplate taking him back? Much less give him the keys to the warchest in January.

[FourLaneBlue]

Could anyone on here please come up with a plausible reason why Souness would be the answer to anyone's problems?

Not me. The only other time I can remember Rovers fans being as divided as they are at the moment was to the end of the Souness regime. We should not go back to that again and it shows just how far we have fallen that we are even apparently considering it.

It is the last thing we need to have people at loggerheads during a survival battle.

Allardyce could well have been just as likely to trigger such division in the summer (although it is amazing what winning games can do to quiet fans down) but now it seems that many of the fans initially hostile against him are now looking him for him to save us!

If we can possibly get BFS we should not be looking at Souness. The man can start an argument in an empty room.

[roverfanuk]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/col...icle5304254.ece

A good read in the times labeled as being today? Possibly a bit of a pop at Mr O Holt??

Is a very good read.

Seperate from the Ince section of the article. I like the bit at the very bottom:

McClaren was not a bad manager, just the wrong England manager. The Blackburn Rovers fans who reacted so furiously to the mention of his name might wish they had him now.

Also, just to add. At around 9pm the Blackburn Rovers Official Messageboard went down? Maybe we shouldnt read too much into this. Then again, maybe the club is taking measures to make sure nobody makes any outlandish comments tomorrow should something pop up in the breaking news section.

[47er]

Not me. The only other time I can remember Rovers fans being as divided as they are at the moment was to the end of the Souness regime. We should not go back to that again and it shows just how far we have fallen that we are even apparently considering it.

It is the last thing we need to have people at loggerheads during a survival battle.

Allardyce could well have been just as likely to trigger such division in the summer (although it is amazing what winning games can do to quiet fans down) but now it seems that many of the fans initially hostile against him are now looking him for him to save us!

If we can possibly get BFS we should not be looking at Souness. The man can start an argument in an empty room.

Moreover the problems we've had with Ince are exactly those which brought Souness undone---old-fashioned training with the manager more interested in playing 5-a-side, hopeless dealing in the transfer market. playing favourites, weak coaching staff, players out of position. I could go on.Add to that his ability to fall out with half the squad and we'd be stuffed. He took us from 6th(where to be fair he'd got us) to relegation certainties in 15 months. No way do I want him back.

[Iceman]

What am i missing? Has ince been dismissed? The only time the official board is down,if something big is about to happen or Groobs just had enough of the posters talking rubbish.

[American]

Could anyone on here please come up with a plausible reason why Souness would be the answer to anyone's problems?

After three good seasons with us he lost the plot completely, and left us on the brink of destruction, relegation bound with an aging squad worth next to nothing. God bless you Mark Hughes.

He then went on to fail miserably at Newcastle. if you look on Wikipedia it says one of their Season review DVD's has Shay Given commenting on a bad atmosphere on the training ground and bust ups with players. Nothing new there then.

The main concern though has to be over his transfer dealings. On Wikipedia it comments on Souness's first foray into the transfer market at Newcastle was for Boumsong for 8.2m - a player who had been available on a free transfer months previously. The transfer was so odd it attracted the attention of the Stephens inquiry - although no evidence of irregular payments was found.

The selling club, surprise, surprise, Rangers. The agent: surprise, surprise Willie Mckay. (Who I think you'll also find was involved in most of Souness's duff deals here)

He's been out of work since being sacked in Feb 2006 - obviously no-one else wants him.

How could we even contemplate taking him back? Much less give him the keys to the warchest in January.

Because of the promotion season, the Worthy cup, the 6th place finish, the battle the club showed during the near miss (yes, the near miss wasn't good, but we battled at the end to survive), the fact that Duff and Dunn haven't ever been near as good as they were under him, the fact he was smart enough to replace Curtis with Neill.

[Iceman]

What is wrong with curbishley?

[dingles staying down 4ever]

What is wrong with curbishley?

Dull as dishwater

[daveoftherovers]

Dull as dishwater

And Rubbish

Out of work

A Quitter

And Not the right answer...

IF we replace PI we should be raising our standards not merely maintaining them...