[Archived] Paul Ince

[den]

Imo thats not the issue here Den

To me they are ready (maybe not Treacy who I don't think is good enough anyway) but the team is not - its a common factor not to introduce youngsters when things are not going good but gradually when most things are ok.

As we all know though, the situation has been far from ideal and is a tad unfair to call them when the more established players have not been performing.

So - who's ready?

I'm not calling the kids or blaming them for the sides performance - not for one second. Nor is it good to throw the youngsters into a struggling side, but Waggy seems to think it's an Ince positive. I don't.

[leftfooter]

You could however sack the lot and get Parkes back why he was allowed to leave I'll never know just shows there is no loyalty in the game anymore.

You're right about the loyalty issue.

If memory serves me right, he found out he had been fired by Hughes whilst listening to Radio Lancashire one morning.

[jannerman]

I voted sack - and I like to think I'm a tolerant kind of guy - but I think, as many have said, that the time has come and we need someone in before January to steady the ship and get some targets lined up in good time....

Surely an experienced manager would have a "plan" in advance of getting a new job? I just don't think we can afford Ince the time to learn his trade, maybe if we were in the fizzy pop league but how much money not to mention kudos is in staying in the Premiership?

Might have made a difference if he'd joined towards the end of the season?

Do we really think if anyone interviewed for the job and said, "I'll get in Robbie Fowler, Keith Andrews, a couple of inexperienced loan players, etc" it'd go in their favour?

Sorry, but footballs a fickle game, and it's tantamount to the continued survival of the club to stay up for many reasons

[BRFC4Life]

Ok, just got home from work, checked teletext and Ince hasnt been sacked yet.

Please someone tell me that teletext is broken and Ince is currently down the Jobcentre handing in his P45....................Please!

[Billy Castell]

Dear Sir/Madam,

This e-mail has been sent to register my dispair at how the season has been going under our current manager, and how I believe, with a heavy heart that he is not up to the task of guiding us to safety, let alone European qualification.

I was broadly in favour of the appointment of Mr. Ince as it was an intruiging appointment. He seemed to do very well at Macclesfield and Milton Keynes, and looked to have a bright future. It was a risky appointment but one that seemed to have the potential of paying off hansomely. I am all in favour of a Premiership club giving chances to managers who work their way up through the domestic leagues like Martin O'Neill.

However, current results have been so dire I believe that Paul Ince and his coaching team are simply not up to the task of managing this club. Whilst we have had a great deal of change with Mark Hughes and many coaches leaving, those who have replaced them seem incapable of putting out a team that can fight and win, despite the squad being largely the same. A team that finished in the top 10 surely cannot be relegation fodder all of a sudden?

Fan morale is at rock bottom as you may have noticed, and that can damage the atmosphere at any ground, not to mention ticket sales. To me it feels like we are slipping into seeing relegation as inevitable, and that the club, through a combination of bad management and coaching as well as an apparent lack of investment in the quality of playing staff is doomed. And all this at a time when Burnley are getting their act together and not employing some mini owning psychopath.

To conclude this long winded plea, I ask the board to do the decent thing and relieve Mr. Ince of his present role ASAP, and to give more funds to the next manager as whatever compensation you will owe Paul Ince will be nothing when compared to the drop in revenue when we are relegated.

Yours Sincerely,

Bily Castell

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Just sent this e-mail to the 'General Enquiries' section of the contact us thing on the official site. Just thought you should know.

[joey_big_nose]

Ok, just got home from work, checked teletext and Ince hasnt been sacked yet.

Please someone tell me that teletext is broken and Ince is currently down the Jobcentre handing in his P45....................Please!

looks like he is going to get the liverpool game. If he wins that i will chew my own arm off.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Amazing Bily.

[CAPT KAYOS]

So - who's ready?

I'm not calling the kids or blaming them for the sides performance - not for one second. Nor is it good to throw the youngsters into a struggling side, but Waggy seems to think it's an Ince positive. I don't.

I don't think its a positive either.

However , in answer to your question and as mentioned my opinion only - Olsson is ready - but not as a left back - but on the left wing.

Judge - not sure what is going on behind the scenes with this player, but not been convinced about a youngster at Rovers for a long time but he is an unpolished gem in my book - Tugayesque but with a bit more Billy Whizz and Dennis the Menace about him.

[Billy Castell]

Re Anti-Dingle:

Amazing waste of time? Probably. Amazing there are not so many spelling mistakes? That is true, or amazing that I actually sent an e-mail?

Honestly, if we all sent these kind of messages, then things might just move along a little faster.

[rog of the rovers]

Back

As long as he is the Rovers boss I will back him.

The decision is Mr Williams' and his alone.

Until told otherwise get off your soap boxes, and get behind the team!!

Paul Ince's Blue and White army!!!

[RibbleValleyRover]

Watched a couple of the after game interviews and the BBC News channel just showed part of tonight’s Inside Sport interview with Ince. The interview is on at 11:05pm on BBC One tonight.

Ince looks a broken man, clearly out of his depth and is struggling to find a way out of our slump. I admit I am finding it rather sad to see Ince like this as I of course want our manager and the club to do well.

It’s clearly evident that a job at this level has come too early for him, he is struggling to find the right formation, style of play and a regular starting eleven. I know injuries haven’t helped.

I have a feeling if Ince managed to turn around the slump, keep us clear of relegation this season he could well kick on and do a better job next season.

But at the same time can we afford to wait and see if he can turn things around?

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Re Anti-Dingle:

Amazing waste of time? Probably. Amazing there are not so many spelling mistakes? That is true, or amazing that I actually sent an e-mail?

Honestly, if we all sent these kind of messages, then things might just move along a little faster.

Read my post again, then yours, Bily.

[Shevchenko]

But at the same time can we afford to wait and see if he can turn things around?

No.

[1864roverite]

Back

As long as he is the Rovers boss I will back him.

The decision is Mr Williams' and his alone.

Until told otherwise get off your soap boxes, and get behind the team!!

Paul Ince's Blue and White army!!!

Thats where the problem lie fella, we ALL love and support our teamand can see the shortfalls and inadequecies its a pity that the manager cannot.

Noone is on the soapboxes we just dont want our team to go down

what is wrong with that ?

[OscarRaven]

Back

As long as he is the Rovers boss I will back him.

The decision is Mr Williams' and his alone.

Until told otherwise get off your soap boxes, and get behind the team!!

Paul Ince's Blue and White army!!!

what stupid logic, people want Ince out to save the club - You sit on your hands and watch the relegation, as for me no thanks I have a brain and will do everything I can to get things changed and save my club.

[gillibrand]

It's always sad at the end of the season and you see the look on the fans faces when they find out their team is relegated!

[broadsword]

Holy dogshit, has this guy not been sacked yet?

the board must have a ruddy death wish. We are shipping goals left right and bloody centre. You can't stay up like that. There is an air of complacency with cruz and warnock actually believing we can make europe. This is dangerous complacency which sees teams relegated.

the longer he stays the worse it will get. He's done enough damage already, please get she before he really screws up up.. Its heart breaking to stand by and watch this happen

[gumboots]

what stupid logic, people want Ince out to save the club - You sit on your hands and watch the relegation, as for me no thanks I have a brain and will do everything I can to get things changed and save my club.

It's a decision he's never had to make either or at least not on his own. Souness and Hughes both left of their own accord and previous managers were sacked by Jack. Perhaps that's why he appears to be reluctant to do it, but then he presumably gets paid enough to take tough decisions.

[skrover]

I get the feeling that if the Liverpool game goes badly then the decision will be made. If the sentiment on this site is anything to go by then he will get a clear message from the supporters which could seal it. Hopefully the supporters will get fully behind the team from the start and we will win. Though I see the point of view of those who would like us to lose if it meant Ince was sacked but I would still like the three points. It might lead to a few more.

[Billy Castell]

Read my post again, then yours, Bily.

I wasn't getting shirty in my last post, it probably didn't scan well. Oh, and I used my real name, which I can spell thankfully. Other people have trouble with my real surname though!

[John]

Not surprisng, but West Ham fans enjoying our agony. On Setanta just there, they were asked if they thought they could be involved in a relegation scrap. They replied, no, Blackburn are already down, with a chorus of laughter in the background.

Our friend, Robbie Fowler, is a guest in the studio.

[LDRover]

Our friend, Robbie Fowler, is a guest in the studio.

He'll be looking at any weaknesses in the Liverpool defence that he can exploit with his lightning pace and clever movement.

[John]

Management is lonely - Ince. Under-pressure Blackburn manager Paul Ince tells Inside Sport's Gabby Logan how lonely it can be down at the bottom of football's Premier League.

[tony gale's mic]

INCE WANTS ENGLISHMAN TO TAKE ROLE

Posted 01/12/08 19:33

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Blackburn manager Paul Ince believes the homegrown managers in the Premier League will be pressing for the chance to succeed Fabio Capello when the Italian's spell as England boss comes to an end.

Ince, who claims he will only spend 10 years as a manager, is in his first season as a top-flight boss and has noticed a distinct change in the mentality of Premier League stars since his own playing days.

He has observed a culture which means some players are overly concerned by "how much you can get, what you can have and what you can drive", but believes the national team remains in a healthy state.

And Ince, who won 53 caps for England, said: "I've captained my country so it would be great to manage it.

"That's the exciting thing about being a British manager in the Premier League...and it's a shame sometimes, it's a sad indictment on our game that we have to go and look overseas.

"Now we've got the likes of myself, Tony Adams, (Gareth) Southgate coming through. In times to come, it might give us a chance to actually manage our country."

While Adams' Portsmouth side are in the top half of the table, Southgate's Middlesbrough team are in lower mid-table while Ince's Blackburn are one place off the bottom.

Speaking on Inside Sport Ince revealed his initial experiences of life back in the Premier League, after spells in charge of Macclesfield and MK Dons.

He revealed there are now "a lot more egos, personalities, characters" in the league, than he ever experienced as a player.

Ince added: "I'm not going to tarnish all players with the same brush, but some players it's about how much you can get, what you can have and what you can drive and what you can live in.

"My time ... it was all about what we can win, what we can actually achieve."

With Rovers languishing in the bottom three, Ince is determined to lead his team to safety but admits Blackburn are unlikely to challenge at the top end in the near future due to their financial constraints.

He said: "I feel that you just want to stay in this league, because we haven't got the financial clout to do anything else and push forward."

Asked about spending the next 20 years as a manager, Ince, 41, said: "It won't be 20 years. It'll be 10 years and that's it."

AAAARRRGHHHH every time I read this bloody buffoons interviews I feel like punching something.

Why is he so obsessed about an Englishman managing England?! He was harping on about it before his time at Rovers when England were looking for a new boss, when he suggested the FA should make the idiotic mistake of only looking at English candidates AGAIN, even after the McLaren debacle. And now this is the second time in the space of a week that he's talked about it.

How can you have the gall to talk about managing your country when you're doing so spectaularly poorly with your own side?

And this last paragraph:

He said: "I feel that you just want to stay in this league, because we haven't got the financial clout to do anything else and push forward."

Get him out. Now.

[hawaii501]

I think Ince's down fall is actually the Rovers players stabbing him in the back. All the blame cant be placed on Ince, the players must take some blame. Nelsen's captaincy role has been shocking, he doesnt appear to be the leader he once was. He's a few yards off the pace.

I think it could be time for Ince to go pretty soon but its not all his fault.