[Archived] Paul Ince

[Parsonblue]

As probably our worst ever manager who failed miserably at division three level thirty five years ago, it irritates me immensely to hear Dinnis go on as if he is some sort of relevant authority.

You might as well seek the views of Jim Iley.

Richard Dinnis was caretaker manager for 6 games. Of those games 3 were won and 3 were lost. I suspect our present manager would be pretty happy if he had won half of his games. Richard did a decent job for the Rovers as a caretaker manager between Ken Furphy and Gordon Lee. I have always found Richard to be a great guy to talk to and one who is very knowledgeable about the game. He worked very successfully under both Furphy and Lee as an assistant and so knows the coaching role very well.

As a commentator on radio he is employed to offer an opinion based on his knowledge as a professional coach. I think he does it well and his comments on the Rovers are what the overwhelming majority of fans seem to believe. With regard to the quality of coaching at the club at least he is qualified to give an opinion more so than most of us as he has actually earned his living doing the job.

[roversactive]

This beggars belief... Ince now has his eyes on managing England !!!! Here

He is most likely just simply answering a question about English managers, obviously skysports are going to play on the headline.

[CrazyIvan]

This says Robbie Fowler is 38! They might be right too, he's slower than Tugay!

[Parsonblue]

I watched the Paul Ince interview last night and thought he came across very well. He came across as a genuine guy who took a gamble with the Macclesfield job because he wanted to get his foot on the managerial ladder. He readily admitted that if he had failed there his hopes of a career in management would have been over. Full marks to the guy for taking a job on in those circumstances.

He showed he is ambitious and saw the Rovers as a big club and that it was an opportunity that was too good to turn down. He gave the impression that, because of the colour issue, the opportunity to manage in the Premiership may not have come again if he hadn't grasped the lifeline the Rovers threw him. However, he talked about a tough interview process and so must have impressed John Williams with his ideas for the club.

What the BBC interview lacked was any probing questions about the present plight of the club. The question of coaching qualifications was ignored but his approach to signing new players was interesting. He stated the importance of a player's background and that he wanted people who had experienced adversity in their lives. Again he showed the isolation of the job in that he said there was nobody he could talk to about his problems but had to rely on himself to get through difficult times.

I totally agreed with his assessment that outside of the big four the main requirement was forty points and survival for every other club in the Premiership. I don't think he was taking a dig at the club in that statement but merely giving an honest assessment of the state of English football.

As I said, I thought Ince came across well as a person. However, I suspect that the interview is unlikely to change opinions with regard to his ability to get the Rovers out of the present position. Three points from the last 27 can't be talked away and the only way in which he will win the fans over is by winning matches.

[LeChuck]

I watched the Paul Ince interview last night and thought he came across very well. He came across as a genuine guy who took a gamble with the Macclesfield job because he wanted to get his foot on the managerial ladder. He readily admitted that if he had failed there his hopes of a career in management would have been over. Full marks to the guy for taking a job on in those circumstances.

Personally, I think he saw going in the lower leagues as a way of being able to take a management position without taking any of the relevant coaching qualifications. He dragged his playing career out long enough to have had enough time to do some of the work before he moved in to management as well.

He just seems completely out of touch with the modern Premier League, every top club puts great value on the UEFA Pro license, but for some reason Ince thought he could get a better education coaching in the lowest tier of the football league.

[Jan]

Personally, I think he saw going in the lower leagues as a way of being able to take a management position without taking any of the relevant coaching qualifications. He dragged his playing career out long enough to have had enough time to do some of the work before he moved in to management as well.

He just seems completely out of touch with the modern Premier League, every top club puts great value on the UEFA Pro license, but for some reason Ince thought he could get a better education coaching in the lowest tier of the football league.

And boy, was he wrong. There is no place for the "university of life" rubbish in this day and age.

[thenodrog]

It was a sop of an interview wasn't it? Gabby Yorath didn't ask many searching questions did she? I guess someone from BRFC PR dept must have been in the background next to the mains cut out fuse.

Manager of England?"?! Yeah right. Presumably with Mathias and Knox on the bench next to him no doubt and all this with not a coaching qualification between them.

Other than that he came across as an OK guy if hardly a deep thinker. The loneliness bit seemed tangible, but how the hell a guy can be in football all those years without forging strong links and freindship with fellow professionals (players / managers / coaches ) with whom he could confide, seek advice or basically chew the fat over with I fail to understand.

One thing I felt was that he is keen to do 'wew wiv Bleckburn' but that he was viewing the job as just that... a job and as a mere stepping stone to greater things.......... so no change there then.

[Benni's Hot Pot]

It was a sop of an interview wasn't it? Gabby Yorath didn't ask many searching questions did she? I guess someone from BRFC PR dept must have been in the background next to the mains cut out fuse.

Manager of England?"?! Yeah right. Presumably with Mathias and Knox on the bench next to him no doubt and all this with not a coaching qualification between them.

I think the reason Ince was asked more general questions on the Inside Sport show, rather than focusing on Rovers' current plight, is because it's hardly a national issue that Blackburn are struggling in the Premier League. Few folk outside East Lancs are gonna care. Much bigger issues in the eyes of the BBC are why so few young English managers are being given a chance at the top, and why there are hardly any black managers in the English game at all. I think that's why Ince was asked about much wider topics like the England job being managed by an Englishman, for instance.

I also got the impression that the reason Gabby Logan didn't grill Ince on the pressure he's under at the moment was because she doesn't really expect him to lose his job any time soon. Back in the studio after the interview, Logan and Jonathan Pearce were both saying that Rovers had to stick by Ince and give him time - it didn't seem like they thought, like a lot of Rovers fans expect, that Ince might only be a couple of games from the sack.

I think that gives Rovers a taste of what to expect if Ince does lose his job soon. There'll be a lot of finger pointing from old friends like Oliver Holt saying we haven't given him sufficient time. I wonder if they'd be doing the same if Ince was an untested foreign manager?

[leftfooter]

Richard Dinnis was caretaker manager for 6 games. Of those games 3 were won and 3 were lost. I suspect our present manager would be pretty happy if he had won half of his games. Richard did a decent job for the Rovers as a caretaker manager between Ken Furphy and Gordon Lee. I have always found Richard to be a great guy to talk to and one who is very knowledgeable about the game. He worked very successfully under both Furphy and Lee as an assistant and so knows the coaching role very well.

As a commentator on radio he is employed to offer an opinion based on his knowledge as a professional coach. I think he does it well and his comments on the Rovers are what the overwhelming majority of fans seem to believe. With regard to the quality of coaching at the club at least he is qualified to give an opinion more so than most of us as he has actually earned his living doing the job.

Very well put Mr. Parsonblue.

Attacking an honest guy like Richard Dinnis for just doing his job was a cheap shot.

[gillibrand]

Ince is interested in Ince, and will do whatever he can to achieve this, a chance of Premiership management must have been a dream come true even if he does not rate Blackburn Rovers, they are just a stepping stone, and the media and the pundits will make as much of him as possible because he is the fist black premiership manager and because it is what a certain ilk have wanted for a long time .

[LanghoRover]

It was just another anti-white guilt trip banging on about so called "racism"..The panel would never work in TV again if they told the truth that's how things work today.....The lunatics have taken over the asylum

[gumboots]

I too thought Ince came over relatively well in the interview last night. Not necessarily as the manager who is going to get us out of the mess we're in but as someone who wants to do well at whatever he does. The England manager question was just that and obviously they are going to make an issue of it. Ince didn't really, just gave an answer. I'd still love us to do well with him although I don't agree with idiots who say we've made our choice and we have to stick with him. No, we don't - not if we don't see how he's going to turn things around. They just say it because it's us and they don't care if we get relegated because there are big clubs like Birmingham to be promoted into our place or plucky clubs like Reading with Mr interesting Coppell who are situated in the SE so they don't have to leave London to cover their games. We do have a choice and if the board don't think Ince can do it then they need to make the change and soon.

[The Prof.]

Trustees Crisis Meeting - Decide this was worthy of a new thread!

[gazsimm]

Trustees Crisis Meeting - Decide this was worthy of a new thread!

Paul Ince going to be sacked today?????????????????????????????????????

[The Prof.]

Paul Ince going to be sacked today?????????????????????????????????????

I doubt it - I think they are going to back him with cash.

[gazsimm]

I doubt it - I think they are going to back him with cash.

thats madness, we will be to far behined everybody else in the league come January, with Ince still in charge.

[Majiball]

I doubt it - I think they are going to back him with cash.

Dammed if we do and Dammed if we don't great. He's had his chance to spend our dollars and hasn't signed one good one yet (sorry forgot about Robbo).

[islander200]

He shouldn't have sold them then. The one single, biggest factor in rovers current problems, is Ince's decision to let Bentley go. It's caused us problem's not just on the right wing, but at full back and central midfield as well.

Huge, huge misjudgement and it might cost him his job.

Are you that stupid?Ince was left with no choice but to sell them,it was not inces decision to let bentley go did you not see bentley interview with skysports in which he said he wanted out?Ince did not want to sell bentley,bentley wantedout when sparky was still in charge.I bet your one of those people who has been on inces back since the start?People on here have been critical of inces transfer activity so far which might be a fair point,but ince had a limited time to bring new players,his 1 major outlay grella has spent most of his time injured but surely ince cannot be blamed for this nless he can see into the future!People also keep on slagging himfor signing andrews,i my opinion andrews has looked pretty decent and a much beter player han his league 2 status suggested.Throughout the summer nicko kept us up to datewith inces target and i tink i am right in saying that he made moves for some pretty decent players but these bids were turned down(a mystery right wing targetwho nicko described as quality)

[Athlete]

Ince managing England ?????????? the guy is a moron the press would have a bigger field day than the Taylor turniphead days ha ha

INCE OUT INCE OUT

[tony gale's mic]

Are you that stupid?Ince was left with no choice but to sell them,it was not inces decision to let bentley go did you not see bentley interview with skysports in which he said he wanted out?Ince did not want to sell bentley,bentley wantedout when sparky was still in charge.I bet your one of those people who has been on inces back since the start?People on here have been critical of inces transfer activity so far which might be a fair point,but ince had a limited time to bring new players,his 1 major outlay grella has spent most of his time injured but surely ince cannot be blamed for this nless he can see into the future!People also keep on slagging himfor signing andrews,i my opinion andrews has looked pretty decent and a much beter player han his league 2 status suggested.Throughout the summer nicko kept us up to datewith inces target and i tink i am right in saying that he made moves for some pretty decent players but these bids were turned down(a mystery right wing targetwho nicko described as quality)

Barry is still at Villa isn't he? We didn't have to sell him. If he stuck with us he wouldve been obliged to give his all for us to impress Capello if nothing else.

[den]

Are you that stupid?Ince was left with no choice but to sell them,it was not inces decision to let bentley go

No I'm not stupid, thanks for asking.

Who sold Bentley?

He had three years left on his contract and even people who argue with me about this, also admit he should never have been allowed to leave without a replacement - which is admitting that Ince could have prevented him from leaving.

[gazsimm]

No I'm not stupid, thanks for asking.

Who sold Bentley?

He had three years left on his contract and even people who argue with me about this, also admit he should never have been allowed to leave without a replacement - which is admitting that Ince could have prevented him from leaving.

Bentley was always to go Den, even if Hughes was still in charge, his mind was made up. The big problem Ince made though was not to replace him in the summer.

[LeChuck]

I'm sorry, but this 'Bentley would have gone anyway' talk just isn't true. Look at how Villa handled the Barry situation.

If we'd kept hold of Bentley and remained challenging for European places, do you really think he'd be so desperate to get to Spurs in their current situation? I imagine he'd be glad he dodged a bullet, and the summer goings-on would have all-but forgotten about. Just like it has with Gareth Barry.

To counter-balance that somewhat though...I actually don't think selling Bentley was a mistake, we got really good money for him. The mistake was not replacing his creativity, or even attempting to. It's no coincidence that Roque rarely threatens goal anymore, he used to thrive off Bentley's crossing.

[Mr Creosote]

I'm sorry, but this 'Bentley would have gone anyway' talk just isn't true. Look at how Villa handled the Barry situation.

If we'd kept hold of Bentley and remained challenging for European places, do you really think he'd be so desperate to get to Spurs in their current situation? I imagine he'd be glad he dodged a bullet, and the summer goings-on would have all-but forgotten about. Just like it has with Gareth Barry.

To counter-balance that somewhat though...I actually don't think selling Bentley was a mistake, we got really good money for him. The mistake was not replacing his creativity, or even attempting to. It's no coincidence that Roque rarely threatens goal anymore, he used to thrive off Bentley's crossing.

It is true. We aren't Villa, they are a bigger club than us and are backed by an American billionaire. They could realistcally put there foot down and we couldn't.

[den]

Bentley was always to go Den,

Only if Ince agreed to it - otherwise he would be here now. Don't kid yourselves, a lot of managers would have fought tooth and nail to keep him, knowing how vital he was to our creativity. Ince had no idea what he was selling.