[Archived] Paul Ince

[thenodrog]

But who would you want as a manager of rovers and WHY would you pick that person.

The likes of Bilic and Ten Cate were certainly romantic notions in the summer, but realistically now we are up to our necks in the brown stuff we need a man who it is PROVEN year after year that can do best with a club of our resources. A man who can at least inject / restore COLLECTIVE TEAM SPIRIT and PRIDE into a squad, a man who must have a burning desire to prove the establishment rejection wrong (incredibly in favour of the Wally with the Brolly), a man with a wounded bear mentality to shove one right up the likes of Notlob and the Mags. We all know that man is sat on his arse doing sweet FA at the moment in a bungalow somewhere between Blackburn and Bolton. No contractual requirement to sort out with other clubs either ........ Oh and if the board delay any longer a man with 2 promotions from the second Div on his cv!

It's a no brainer really is it? Sure Irvine and Coyle are doing well at the moment but either could be a flash in the pan so in actuallity there really is no decision to make.

All that appears to be against Allardyce is a rumour that some board / trust member apparently has an "over my dead body" issue with him. I stress it is a rumouronly and that I have no solid details so I cannot comment further, but unfortunately we all know that the body in the coffin will be BRFC's if the issue cannot be resolved and the Paul Ince fiasco is allowed to continue much longer.

[leftfooter]

Ha ha. I'm loving football at the moment.

Anyhow, Owen fancies managing in the Prem next year. Kind of rules you guys out, don't you think.

'He who gloats over another's misfortune will not be spared punishment himself'

Proverbs 17.

[Bobby G]

Kamy any updates on behind the scenes happenings?

[thenodrog]

McLaren and Allardyce might have done a better job but we will never know,

Mentioning those two in the same sentence is an insult to one.

[CrazyIvan]

The likes of Bilic and Ten Cate were certainly romantic notions in the summer, but realistically now we are up to our necks in the brown stuff we need a man who it is PROVEN year after year that can do best with a club of our resources. A man who can at least inject / restore COLLECTIVE TEAM SPIRIT and PRIDE into a squad, a man who must have a burning desire to prove the establishment rejection wrong (incredibly in favour of the Wally with the Brolly), a man with a wounded bear mentality to shove one right up the likes of Notlob and the Mags. We all know that man is sat on his arse doing sweet FA at the moment in a bungalow somewhere between Blackburn and Bolton. No contractual requirement to sort out with other clubs either ........ Oh and if the board delay any longer a man with 2 promotions from the second Div on his cv!

It's a no brainer really is it? Sure Irvine and Coyle are doing well at the moment but either could be a flash in the pan so in actuallity there really is no decision to make.

All that appears to be against Allardyce is a rumour that some board / trust member apparently has an "over my dead body" issue with him. I stress it is a rumouronly and that I have no solid details so I cannot comment further, but unfortunately we all know that the body in the coffin will be BRFC's if the issue cannot be resolved and the Paul Ince fiasco is allowed to continue much longer.

Much as I dislike the idea of him in the long-term, Allardyce is the only answer to this current question. Whith the genuine quality in this squad who knows what he could actually accomplish.

[thenodrog]

Much as I dislike the idea of him in the long-term, Allardyce is the only answer to this current question. Whith the genuine quality in this squad who knows what he could actually accomplish.

Re: the bit in capitals Ivan.

[Bobby G]

Guardians headline is we want Ince OUT, and that the chants ranged from we want Souness back to Tony Parkes, etc...

[CrazyIvan]

Re: the bit in capitals Ivan.

That's exactly why he is the answer right now.

[Jan]

Would that not be doing the same as appointing Ince? Coyle doing well at a lower league side, as did Ince. Ok I think Coyle could do a better job than Ince. But Coyle also has no prem experience.

Coyle may have no Premier experience, but he has been a success in Scotland as well as Burnley. He got St Johnstone to a cup semi-final and although they lost I remember them playing well (I was there- Ps I also visited MK Dons as I think I said before Ince was appointed and I remember p**s poor football). He also won two Scottish Division 1 Manager of the month awards. And he's been a manager since 2005.

So he has worked himself up the leagues culminating in managing a team, with even fewer resources than us, to 4th in the Championship and a Carling cup semi-final. All the while playing decent football. We could do worse.

[CrazyIvan]

Coyle may have no Premier experience, but he has been a success in Scotland as well as Burnley. He got St Johnstone to a cup semi-final and although they lost I remember them playing well (I was there- Ps I also visited MK Dons as I think I said before Ince was appointed and I remember p**s poor football). He also won two Scottish Division 1 Manager of the month awards. And he's been a manager since 2005.

So he has worked himself up the leagues culminating in managing a team, with even fewer resources than us, to 4th in the Championship and a Carling cup semi-final. All the while playing decent football. We could do worse.

Has he got his badges?

[Grabbi Graeme]

Just seen post match interview with Ince saying "no need to panic it's early doors in the season", what the hell is he on about, does he not realise we are in December.

[Majiball]

yes, but stop putting so much stock in them, Thousands of people have there badges, they are driving licences and are so out of date its unreal.

[thenodrog]

yes, but stop putting so much stock in them, Thousands of people have there badges, they are driving licences and are so out of date its unreal.

Can you not see that it's not so much not having the badges it's the attitude behind it.

[martonrover]

Coyle may have no Premier experience, but he has been a success in Scotland as well as Burnley. He got St Johnstone to a cup semi-final and although they lost I remember them playing well (I was there- Ps I also visited MK Dons as I think I said before Ince was appointed and I remember p**s poor football). He also won two Scottish Division 1 Manager of the month awards. And he's been a manager since 2005.

So he has worked himself up the leagues culminating in managing a team, with even fewer resources than us, to 4th in the Championship and a Carling cup semi-final. All the while playing decent football. We could do worse.

Burnley wouldn't give us permission to speak to him meaning he'd have to resign.

Given the respective circumstances of the two clubs it would be a tough decision for him.At the moment his stock is rising.Taking us on at this point would be a gamble.

[Jan]

Can you not see that it's not so much not having the badges it's the attitude behind it.

Absolutely 100% correct. What it says is "I'm serious about becoming a manager and I'm willing AND ABLE to do everything in my power to make myself the best manager I can be"

As opposed to "this is so easy I'll toss being a manager off in my sleep"

[bubblerrovers]

Paul Ince's face on the main website looks like he had a good old cry, poor bloke just not up to the job, nothing personal

[John]

We must give him time, remember when he first joined he said he had a 3-4 year plan! Surely it was mentioned that we have no transfer funds when he met JW for his interviews??

Need to get rid ASAP.

[Jan]

Burnley wouldn't give us permission to speak to him meaning he'd have to resign.

Given the respective circumstances of the two clubs it would be a tough decision for him.At the moment his stock is rising.Taking us on at this point would be a gamble.

Which, I'm afraid, says it all

[Bobby G]

Anyone offered would take it. We are not in a Derby position for God's sake. We are a couple of points off safety and with a half decent second half to the season we will finish around 10-12.

[Majiball]

Can you not see that it's not so much not having the badges it's the attitude behind it.

First off, if you read my posts from today you'll see I even offer his attitude as a reason to get rid on the cheap, if possible. Call it failure to fulfil contractual obligations IE attend.

The post I replied too from CrazyIvan, asked about badges not Inces attitude to gaining them.

So in answer to your question "I can" but it was not the question posed so I did not comment.

[CrazyIvan]

Can you not see that it's not so much not having the badges it's the attitude behind it.

It's also the fact that nobody is going to get a Premier League managerial position without them, especially if Ince gets canned.

[thenodrog]

First off, if you read my posts from today you'll see I even offer his attitude as a reason to get rid on the cheap, if possible. Call it failure to fulfil contractual obligations IE attend.

The post I replied too from CrazyIvan, asked about badges not Inces attitude to gaining them.

So in answer to your question "I can" but it was not the question posed so I did not comment.

Sorry..... there's a lot of posts today.

[den]

We have to get back to being hard to beat, either that, or we go down. Simple as that.

I don't know whether Ince and his coaches can bring themselves around to that kind of approach, having nailed his hat to the mast with his ambition to play attacking football. There's absolutely no signs at the moment that they realise that. We seem to be going out with no idea whatsoever as to what's needed to win a game. We approach every game in exactly the same manner - airy fairy, wishy washy football. Wide open in all areas of the park. So naive it's untrue.

IMO, Allardyce, who was my choice in the summer, could be the person to get a grip on the players and tactics. I was never a lover of Bolton's approach to football, but whatever you say about his style of football at Bolton, they were always hard to beat - and it's vital that we get back to that mindset. Can't see anyone else who can do the necessary, other than Allardyce.

Not sure he would come though.

[CrazyIvan]

First off, if you read my posts from today you'll see I even offer his attitude as a reason to get rid on the cheap, if possible. Call it failure to fulfil contractual obligations IE attend.

The post I replied too from CrazyIvan, asked about badges not Inces attitude to gaining them.

So in answer to your question "I can" but it was not the question posed so I did not comment.

The reason I asked the question was because of the ruling about having them before you're allowed to be a Premier League manager.

[LDRover]

Who the hell keeps voting to back Ince?