[Archived] Spurs Preview

[AggyBlue]

Be honest AGGY, Rovers are a pale shadow of the team that finished last season.

Is it the fans fault ?

is it the teams fault ?

or

Is it the managements fault ?

The longer this run goes on the more the finger should be pointed at the manager.

We are playing more open football from last season. We do need to play much tighter for the rest of the season.

If Ince can't or isn't prepared to adapt, then we need a change before the transfer window opens.

[T4E]

I should have put a smiley.

Ah, that old chesnut. So you're logging off for a few days, but not before you've made a wee joke?

Aye, sure.

[jny]

Another absolutely awful (dare I say) performance!!!!. 1.why have we got a clown for a manager. 2. why did almost every pass we had go straight to a SPURS player 3. where was the marking 4. why did the strikers always have their backs to the ball. 5.Where has the transfer kitty gone 6.why were Andrews and Mokoena not substituted and yet Emerton and McCarthy were 7.why did the rovers players all go for the same ball. 8.why didnt Tugay or Villanueva play 9.how many deflections to spurs players were there. 10. why did we just let spurs at us 11.Are there any positives?

[Rover95]

I was in the 'give ince a chance' camp at the start of the season. I was hoping that it could be a great appointment of an up and coming manager. Now it just looks like we're going down and staying there based on that performance.

What worries me is that Ince just doesn't seem to know what he's doing when it comes to tactics. Why not play Tugay from the start? I appreciate he may not be up to 90min every game but he made a difference last week against Sunderland when he came on and I believe he would have done the same today from the start.

I can't see where the next win is going to come from or the next goal. The whole team look uninspired if you ask me and the only option is to change the management.

Don't ask me who though - I've got no idea

[den]

It's got to be said, tactically Ince hasn't got a clue. Once more absolutely baffling substitutions. We need a goal, so he takes off McCarthy, brings on a striker to play right midfield and replaces Pedersen with an inferior Treacy.

and still we play one up front.

We can't go on like this.

[T4E]

Looks like Deepdale and Turf Moor are beckoning!

It's worse than that - they're passing us on the way down!

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

arguably the worst rovers performance ive seen. 10 men or 11 that was shocking. yes we only had one up front but that doesnt mean we cannot keep possession. Personally i was happy with the line up but too many individual errors cost us - and to my mind those errors cannot be put down to Ince. im not absolving him of blame but there comes a point when the players have to stand up.

Ratings:

Robinson - had surprisingly little to do. 6

Ooijer - Did well to keep Bentley quiet but poor going forwards. 5

Samba - looked ok defending, useless with distribution. 5

Nelsen - Best of the back four. 6

Olsson - similar to when zurab played petrov. except worse. 2

Emerton - Provided an outlet in the first half but clearly tired. 5

Andrews - did little if nothing. at best can be described as ineffective. 4

Moko - Basically a fifth defender. disrupted our play as much as theirs. 3

Gamst - looked decent first half, very poor in the second. 4

Santa Cruz - did as much as he could with the service. only player of quality on our side. He will leave in Jan. 6

McCarthy - didnt do much but prob had our best chance. 5

Simpson - vast imrovement on Olsson but naive going forward. 5

Derbyshire - wrong player to bring on (Roberts should have been sub). did nothing at all. 3

Treacy - wrong player to bring on (Tugay should have been sub). came on too late to make impression. 3

[philipl]

Down to 19th and the clubs immediately above us yet to play in this round of matches.

The frightening thing is that if we don't win at Pompey, there is going to be a gap opening up between us and safety very quickly indeed.

My shout would be that Pompey is the last game before the decision is taken.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Ah, that old chesnut. So you're logging off for a few days, but not before you've made a wee joke?

Aye, sure.

I know nobody wants us to lose (except perhaps Frisky) but I think he deserves a few more games. Liverpool and Portsmouth are very difficult games. I just get annoyed when people act like they have done since the Hull game. People are even criticising his suit and shirt.

That was a poor performance, but I agree with Modes in that Olsson cost us big time. I think if we had kept McCarthy and Santa up top we would have got something.

It's a difference of opinion, which is fair enough. Some people think he should be sacked, some people want to give him a chance to play a settled XI and get a run going.

[Amo]

The thing is ADB, people like you have been saying this for ages - 'give him until etc etc'. Sooner or later you're going to run out of games.

[den]

some people want to give him a chance to play a settled XI and get a run going.

Seriously ADB, have you seen ANY evidence of that happening?

[BRFC4Life]

Ok, can we sack Ince now. Enough is enough. Wanted him to do well but clearly out off his depth with no idea how to manage, Proved beyond doubt as he should have seen Olsen was struggling and changed things but left things how they were and low and behold we're down to 10 and the games over. Awful, awful stuff from a guy who's been involved in the top flight game for 20 yrs. Until Ince is sacked and someone who knows what he's doing is put in charge, i've fully prepared myself for Rovers to get nothing from every game.

What's even worse (if its possible) is I bought a mate a ticket for the Liverpool game in the Frasier Eagle stand and was stunned to be told it was £28. How the hell are we meant to fill Ewood Park playing the worst footie since Souness and charging so much for us to watch it?

[1864roverite]

By bringing in a manager with experience he wont need time to look at potential signings.

What Rovers need is a leader off the pitch, someone who as an aura of knowing what to bloody well do when the chips are down.

we need staff to change things around in training because Matthias appears to be a joke.

We have 24 games left to get it right, we need points, we need a change and we need a positive broom sweeping through the club.

As it stands, with Ince at the helm, the books may well show a profit.

Next season the books wont be there because the ckub will no longer exist as we know it.

Time is no longer something Ince has, its clear that he doesnt command the respect that he did in Div 2 because these players, or at least some, dont care for his Guvnor style leadership.

[andrew92]

People are even criticising his suit and shirt.

he suits fine, but standing in it on the side lines and spitting!? just looks wrong!! he got to go, hopefully before he pompey game, but i honestly dont think anything will happen without a bit of a protest!

[ontwowheels]

Next Few games

Portsmouth

Liverpool

Stoke

Sunderland

Man City

Fulham

Newcastle

Bolton

Where are the points going to come from?

[tony gale's mic]

Nope. We aren't picking up points but we're not awful, apart from the second half against Sunderland.

We are not taking our chances. We had 2 chances in that game which should have been buried!

Btw for all those who didn't want us to sign Lennon in the summer, what do you think now?

And how many did Spurs have?! We've played the second bottom side in the league and Sunderland in the last two games and looked utterly bereft of ideas.

In the summer, we were a top 7 side. We could afford to be picky. Lennon was excellent in the first half but a lot of that was down to our awful defending. We did contain him a bit better in the second half though.

[DE.]

We are, as it stands, the worst team in the premiership... possibly tied with west brom. There is nobody in the league we can be confident of beating, and we have proven this by losing or drawing to practically every side in or around us.

If that isn't a case for change I don't know what is.

[BuckyRover]

I think we played ok. We were always going to be up against it with 10 men.

Ince started by playing players in their correct positions. If Olsson hadn't gone mad we could have got something against them. We were playing one of the form teams in the league.

Disappointed but this was much better than last week.

Interesting to hear that Spurs before today had more points than at this stage last season. Just shows what a strange league it is at the moment.

Another which people on here seem to miss is that no a single pundit has commented on our "relegation" form. I think it is because they realise that the league is too tight to make any comments regarding relegation. In a few games time Hull could find themselves in the relegation zone.

[1864roverite]

Next Few games

Portsmouth

Liverpool

Stoke

Sunderland

Man City

Fulham

Newcastle

Bolton

Where are the points going to come from?

we could easily have expected 15-19 points from those games in previous years but this year? we will be lucky to get 5 points.

[dopper69]

If we did sack Ince, the new manager would have no money to bring anyone in. I would imagine (don't know the facts) that Ince gets around 1.5 million a year on a three year contract. That will be a big wedge of compensation money for a board that doesnt seem to put much out.

[ontwowheels]

I think we played ok. We were always going to be up against it with 10 men.

Ince started by playing players in their correct positions. If Olsson hadn't gone mad we could have got something against them. We were playing one of the form teams in the league.

Disappointed but this was much better than last week.

Interesting to hear that Spurs before today had more points than at this stage last season. Just shows what a strange league it is at the moment.

Another which people on here seem to miss is that no a single pundit has commented on our "relegation" form. I think it is because they realise that the league is too tight to make any comments regarding relegation. In a few games time Hull could find themselves in the relegation zone.

Well it won't be too long before we get the "too good to go down!" remarks and that is as bad as the manager having the chairmans support!!!

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

SIMPLY NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

I'm honestly very worried now after today....did our squad of players look like they cared enough to get us out of the brown stuff?...go on be honest with yourself.That performance for me was apathetic at best.

Why the hell do we create so little from open play?,where are the leaders on the pitch?...their dodgy keeper was hardly tested FFS!

This cant be allowed to carry on,its like nobody gives a stuff anymore,we are mere Championship cannon fodder at this rate.

[tony gale's mic]

I think we played ok. We were always going to be up against it with 10 men.

Ince started by playing players in their correct positions. If Olsson hadn't gone mad we could have got something against them. We were playing one of the form teams in the league.

Disappointed but this was much better than last week.

Interesting to hear that Spurs before today had more points than at this stage last season. Just shows what a strange league it is at the moment.

Another which people on here seem to miss is that no a single pundit has commented on our "relegation" form. I think it is because they realise that the league is too tight to make any comments regarding relegation. In a few games time Hull could find themselves in the relegation zone.

We were playing the 19th placed team in the league FFS. Fulham beat them last week.

If three points from eight games isn't relegation form I don't know what is.

Wake up.

[philipl]

Bucky, sod the pundits. The evidence of everyone's eyes is the last two games were relegation form.

Then look at the last six player table and be very very worried.

I feel numb at the moment. My club is being destroyed.

[1864roverite]

I We were playing one of the form teams in the league.

Another which people on here seem to miss is that no a single pundit has commented on our "relegation" form. I think it is because they realise that the league is too tight to make any comments regarding relegation. In a few games time Hull could find themselves in the relegation zone.

We were also playing 2nd from bottom.

No pundit will ever mention the obvious.

Hull have a good number of points more than us and as of today, they have a far better chance of surviving than Rovers. Hull and stoke have effort, ethics and the will to grind results out whereas powerpuff Rovers roll over and die, have no work ethic and have a management team tha is only second in the worse stakes to WBA.

Should Rovers take the plunge and sack Ince, we still face a fight to get out of the bottom 3.