[Archived] Sam Allardyce

[Amo]

Boro are also the perfect example of why Holt was misguided in his beliefs. Backing young managers for the sake of it, instead of giving the club a fighting chance, is actually short-sighted and prejudiced.

[Eddie]

If we had gathered 24 points from both sets of 17 games, we woud be comfortably in 7th and the box seat for European qualification WITH THE SQUAD WE HAVE NOW.

Conversely, two sets of 17 games under Ince would have seen us on 26 points and looking up at WBA and everyone else in the League with the prospect of relegation becoming a mathematical certainty today.

This argument is so flawed.

[philipl]

This argument is so flawed.

I agree.

We would never have got above 13 points with Ince still in charge.

[John]

This is a review of the Man City match, but worth putting in here. Scathing article below slamming Sam and the style of football at BRFC.

The Allardyce Way is a step back in time. WATCHING Blackburn can be as attractive as a day trip to a Mexican pig farm.

[RevidgeBlue]

We've probably done better under Sam than we would have done had Ince remained at the helm, but nevertheless, we've been a lot less impressive under his stewardship than I was expecting when he took over.

I didn't expect us to turn into a team of world beaters overnight, but I did expect us to be tough, well organised, and hard to beat 100% of the time.

Not surrender monkeys who seemingly target certain games for maximum effort and throw in the white towel before we've even kicked off in others.

A massive improvement needed next season. Maybe Sam can bring it about surrounded by a few more of his own players.

[broadsword]

throw in the white towel

two metaphors for teh price of one! :-)

[Parsonblue]

Maybe Sam can bring it about surrounded by a few more of his own players.

I think that is the key. We are never going to be able to play free flowing football on the budget we have. West Brom have tried to do that on a limited budget and are about to be relegated. I think there will be major changes this summer - there has to be or we will be certain to be relegated next season. Sam needs to bring in players who he feels will be best suited to the style he wants to play. I have no problems with Sam's style if it gets results. I just don't believe that the present crop of players are athletic enough to play the sort of football that Sam wants to play. I honestly don't believe you can judge Sam until we see him with a team of his own players.

[47er]

We've probably done better under Sam than we would have done had Ince remained at the helm, but nevertheless, we've been a lot less impressive under his stewardship than I was expecting when he took over.

I didn't expect us to turn into a team of world beaters overnight, but I did expect us to be tough, well organised, and hard to beat 100% of the time.

Not surrender monkeys who seemingly target certain games for maximum effort and throw in the white towel before we've even kicked off in others.

A massive improvement needed next season. Maybe Sam can bring it about surrounded by a few more of his own players.

We've PROBABLY done better under Sam?!!!!!Given that we are down to 1 striker and have so little going for us in central midfield I think we are doing better than anyone has a right to expect. You seriously think it could have been better if Ince had remained?

[Exiled in Toronto]

Since Sam was universally credited with tightening things up at the back earlier in his reign, and is thus a defensive genius, to whom should we direct the blame for conceding 12 in the last 4 away games?

[47er]

Since Sam was universally credited with tightening things up at the back earlier in his reign, and is thus a defensive genius, to whom should we direct the blame for conceding 12 in the last 4 away games?

Conceding goals for fun was par for the course under Ince--------3 in 11 minutes against Wigan FFS. Defence stuffed up yesterday but in the Liverpool/Arse games, we were simply overrun all over the pitch. Back 4 have generally stood up well since Allardyce came, thats why our goal difference isn't the worst in the Premier anymore and we pick up points to the tune of 24 from 18 games. Not great but considering what went on before and whats left to pick from------not bad at all. Only survival matters now and its still on.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Conceding goals for fun was par for the course under Ince--------3 in 11 minutes against Wigan FFS. Defence stuffed up yesterday but in the Liverpool/Arse games, we were simply overrun all over the pitch. Back 4 have generally stood up well since Allardyce came, thats why our goal difference isn't the worst in the Premier anymore and we pick up points to the tune of 24 from 18 games. Not great but considering what went on before and whats left to pick from------not bad at all. Only survival matters now and its still on.

We only let in 3 in 18 mins today, so quite the improvement there then.

It's a serious question though - was he a defensive genius in Feb/March or were we just playing some poor attacking teams? Because we are being found out big-time at the moment, even in the games we are winning. Wigan could have had 6 and Fulham should have buried us in the first half.

[thenodrog]

This is a review of the Man City match, but worth putting in here. Scathing article below slamming Sam and the style of football at BRFC.

The Allardyce Way is a step back in time. WATCHING Blackburn can be as attractive as a day trip to a Mexican pig farm.

Who cares what that numpty thinks? We have less financial resources than just about every other club so it stands to sense that we will only be able to afford slightly less skilfull players. So why does this numpty think that we are able to pass the rest of the Prem to death and outplay them on the ground? We cannot afford top quality players and if we do find one then some big club will just snap him up and whisk em away like Spurs did with Bentley, Lpool did with Bellamy and Chelsea with Duff etc and right back to Everton snaffling Fat Fred donkeys years ago. rem it's only the arab dosh that got SWP back!

Most of the people who write stuff like that are simply shallow thinking creeps who pontificate from distance and have prob possessed two left feet all their lives and been forced to theorise from a safe distance all their born lives. So simply don't read the crap they write.

A massive improvement needed next season. Maybe Sam can bring it about surrounded by a few more of his own players.

That will be a better time to judge when he's shipped out the 'luddites' amongst the playing staff and got his own men in.

[thenodrog]

Since Sam was universally credited with tightening things up at the back earlier in his reign, and is thus a defensive genius, to whom should we direct the blame for conceding 12 in the last 4 away games?

OK waggy mk 2. Lets sack him this summer and you tell us who we can get who will come in and work on our budget? Sniping at a sitting target is bloody easy. Why not try cutting him some slack and affording dsome praise for rescuing us (hopefully) from a position of certain relegation at Christmas?....... Or do you have an alternative agenda to see us back with the dead legs in the lower divisions?

[Parsonblue]

Since Sam was universally credited with tightening things up at the back earlier in his reign, and is thus a defensive genius, to whom should we direct the blame for conceding 12 in the last 4 away games?

And to whom should we credit for taking us from 5 points adrift at Christmas to six points clear of the relegation places now? And who do we credit for achieving this with an injury hit squad and the smallest spending budget in the Premier League?

[yoda]

And to whom should we credit for taking us from 5 points adrift at Christmas to six points clear of the relegation places now? And who do we credit for achieving this with an injury hit squad and the smallest spending budget in the Premier League?

You and Theno' are right, some people just don't understand how bad we were under the no mark Ince,

plus we now have an injury list that is longer than Ince's defeats

SA is going to keep us up by whatever means he thinks fit and some indie loving numpty from manc land can go and shove his mp player up his jacksie and start contemplating who their next manager is going to be

[deryck guyler's spoon]

This is a review of the Man City match, but worth putting in here. Scathing article below slamming Sam and the style of football at BRFC.

The Allardyce Way is a step back in time. WATCHING Blackburn can be as attractive as a day trip to a Mexican pig farm.

I'm not a huge Allardyce fan and, to be honest, I've hated watching us recently. Yesterday, however, we played some decent stuff! Villaneuva looked the best player on the pitch!

We and Allardyce are an easy target for this plum who is the epitomy of the sort of lazy, useless writing that is all too prevailant on the sports pages. So many journo's are s**t at their jobs that I dont bother with the papers any more and judging by circulation figures I'm not alone.

[gumboots]

I'm not a huge Allardyce fan and, to be honest, I've hated watching us recently. Yesterday, however, we played some decent stuff! Villaneuva looked the best player on the pitch!

We and Allardyce are an easy target for this plum who is the epitomy of the sort of lazy, useless writing that is all too prevailant on the sports pages. So many journo's are s**t at their jobs that I dont bother with the papers any more and judging by circulation figures I'm not alone.

As is well known, I'm not an Allardyce fan either but that is irrelevant if the guy keeps us up. There is an excitement in winning, especially when you know that two of the opposition players' fees would buy your club, that is not appreciated by those who watch from outside. There is an excitement in winning when you hear about other clubs' injury lists causing them problems and realise that nobody ever seems to mention the extent of our injury list and the fact that a couple of key players missing plays more havoc with a weaker squad than it does with the big boys. Yes, no doubt we would get fed up if all we ever saw was a long ball game but I can't believe that is all we would see in future. It might predominate but that would make skill moments all the sweeter and I'd take it if it means survival every season.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

The press are settling some old scores with Sam at the moment. The reporter in my Sunday paper ( Observer) gives us a good kicking because of our current style of play without going into the fact that we've lost nearly all our creative players.

He makes it sound like we're playing a centre-half up front because we want to play that way.

Sam's obviously upset a few people in the past and now they're getting there own back.

In my eyes Sam's done his level best to get us out of the mess that the owners, directors and most of all Paul Ince had got us into. We were crap with Ince when he had a full squad to choose from, what he'd be like with this severely weakened squad I shudder to think.

Sam's about the only one that is remaining calm and in control at a time of incredible pressure.

[Bobby G]

I wont judge him on anything more than safety this season.

[thenodrog]

The press are settling some old scores with Sam at the moment. The reporter in my Sunday paper ( Observer) gives us a good kicking because of our current style of play without going into the fact that we've lost nearly all our creative players.

He makes it sound like we're playing a centre-half up front because we want to play that way.

Sam's obviously upset a few people in the past and now they're getting there own back.

Managing a club that regularly whupped the Arsenal won't have helped. The massed ranks of spitting image type sports journo's prob cost him the England job too. Something must have for the FA to have appointed bloody Maclaren a while back thats for certain sure! Still I think that having the 'system' so against him might just provide plenty of motivation to our benefit..... It didn't do any harm to Nottm Forest did it?

btw "without going into the fact that we've lost nearly all our creative players" That goes deeper than you are implying! The bstards never acknowledge the fact that year in year out every time we get a creative player some media favourite big club comes and nicks him! No doubt that git thinks that we should simply have smiled and bent over whilst handed RSc on a plate to moneybags Man City in January too? I effin hate em! They hated us when Jack Walker made us top dogs and it's still running deep with some of them. I'll bet Holt and Powell are just snidily biding their time till SA slips up toio before they come crawling out from under their particular stones.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

btw "without going into the fact that we've lost nearly all our creative players" That goes deeper than you are implying! The bstards never acknowledge the fact that year in year out every time we get a creative player some media favourite big club comes and nicks him! No doubt that git thinks that we should simply have smiled and bent over whilst handed RSc on a plate to moneybags Man City in January too? I effin hate em! They hated us when Jack Walker made us top dogs and it's still running deep with some of them.

You get the feeling many of them will never forgive us 'upstarts' for that.Christ, they could never even fully acknowledge Rovers the season we won the damn thing....'BIG CLUB' biased ham shankers the lot of 'em!

[Amo]

I know there are quarters of Rovers fans who are disillusioned with Big Sam, but his job was always damage limitation. He's still fighting the battle Ince got us into.

With Sam's track record so far, we would be in a comfortable mid-table position. With his own players at the club, I'm sure we'd be competing for Europe.

[Guest Vinjay606]

His short term job is damage limitation and he's dealt with that competently enough. I didn't want him in the summer though (or in January) when the club had just finished top half. Some people may hypocritically change their view based on half a season of results but I haven't. I still don't think he's the right long term option but I look at everything short term at the moment anyway until the one major issue is resolved. Some people would describe the job he's done as great. I point to Brian Kidd and the Nottingham Forest failure Hart managing to keep up their side suggesting that it's not been of colossal difficulty if they could manage it.

He's set 3 more points as the target setting the bar to a minimum as he often has recently. I see no reason why there shouldn't be 6 points from the next 3 games to end the season on a reasonably high point.

[Stuart]

Managing a club that regularly whupped the Arsenal won't have helped. The massed ranks of spitting image type sports journo's prob cost him the England job too. Something must have for the FA to have appointed bloody Maclaren a while back thats for certain sure! Still I think that having the 'system' so against him might just provide plenty of motivation to our benefit..... It didn't do any harm to Nottm Forest did it?

I'll get slated for this (unless Vinjay brings up a new takeover rumour) but anyone else see the similarities between Allardyce and Clough Snr?

- Both built their reputations managing 'unattractive' clubs (Derby / Bolton)

- Both went to a 'big club' (Leeds / Newcastle) and were sacked without being given enough time

- Both were interviewed for the England job but were overlooked in favour of 'Yes Men' (Greenwood / McClaren)

- Both have 'big' nicknames (Ol' Big 'ed / Big Sam)! Okay, I'm struggling now.

- Both believed in the beautiful game, keeping the ball on the ground. Hang on, scratch that one.

By pro rata, I guess that means we'll win the FA Cup at some point in the next couple of years!

[Guest Vinjay606]

Clough would have hated everything BFS stands for. No doubt about that.