[Archived] Sam Allardyce

[Amo]

What was he thinking playing Roberts upfront on his own!? We all know he couldnt score in a brothel not to mind on the pitch!!

I reckon he could with his wages.

[sambo]

Didn't know where to put this..

A quote from our very own Waggy, the day Ince was sacked...

the vultures are gathering,well all off you on this board want to take a long look at yourselfs,you seem to be on one big ego trip wanting our manager sacked,i'm going to say you might all be a little disapionted later.call yourself rovers fans.your a disgrace to the club,5 months the man has been in charge,if a new manager came in,how is he going to get our team preforming,we need millions to buy players,the players are at fault,even the most blinkered off you must realise this

His attitude now is contradictory to this...

Probably not the best day to post this, but before Waggy jumps in with his tiresome two penneth, remember this... you want our manager gone, therefore YOU are a disgrace to the club (if what you said above is true...)

[Amo]

Didn't know where to put this..

A quote from our very own Waggy, the day Ince was sacked...

the vultures are gathering,well all off you on this board want to take a long look at yourselfs,you seem to be on one big ego trip wanting our manager sacked,i'm going to say you might all be a little disapionted later.call yourself rovers fans.your a disgrace to the club,5 months the man has been in charge,if a new manager came in,how is he going to get our team preforming,we need millions to buy players,the players are at fault,even the most blinkered off you must realise this

His attitude now is contradictory to this...

Probably not the best day to post this, but before Waggy jumps in with his tiresome two penneth, remember this... you want our manager gone, therefore YOU are a disgrace to the club (if what you said above is true...)

I find it difficult to believe a grown-man typed that word-jumble.

[JonnyH]

Outrageous comment to make, a real poke at the Ewood crowd.

To be fair Tris respect has to go both ways and I think those wuckfits on the top corner were a disgrace. Don't get me wrong I think Sam made a mistake with his tactics today but I think it's quite a tame quote given what he must think of that section of ingrates. Thankfully I was in a position to shout exactly what I thought about them.

[beerwins]

I may well be cold hearted and no matter what a manager has done at a past team doesnt matter to me, hughes didnt really have the cv to set the world on fire but his signings were top drawer and he give our team a good team spirit which enabled rovers to push on. Ince was a clown just another manager that thought that being mister buddy would get the results, that didnt work and good riddance.

I have always had good respect for sam and what he achieved at bolton, but were not bolton, we like to see good football being played and a good work ethic which helps us to climb that league.

Sam annoyed me to hell with the small club comments and his new ones about i am the expert (although they seem to be said in a lighthearted manner) they were still said so the intent and arrogance is still there.

As far as im concerned he is the manager of rovers and will get my backing, but please dont come the allmighty messiah because of keeping us up, results speak for themself and if they dont come arrogance certainly wont help you.

Managers jobs dont last as long as pundits and fans and certainly dont have the same power.

[philipl]

My favourite Jimmy Armfield quote:

Blackburn don't have fans, they have a jury.

[patrickvalery]

I'm going to have to take issue with a few things said on here.

Firstly football is business. We gladly welcome the TV revenue each year and as such we have to understand that needs must. Our stature is such that we need this money and we have to ensure we stay in the division which offers it....by any means. Sam kept us up last year with a side which was on its knees. We played ugly football and we got the points on the board. I don't believe there is a manager in the country capable of taking that same side and re-moulding them into a free flowing football side in the space of one close season. Souness had us playing beautiful stuff once upon a time. But he had the luxury of rebuilding a side who'd been relegated and still had Sir Jacks money.

Sam has said the likes of Elrio Van Heerden will not necessarily make an impact until the second half of the season. We have signed more players this summer than i can recall in many years. They will take time to settle. Due to our financial restraints we couldn't sign established premier league players, so they came from far and wide. This just adds longer to the settling period.

I'm not the optomistic type. But i feel some perspective is required here. Anyone who thought the squad would be top ten this season is deluded. Loosing such experience and influential types as Tugay and Oiijer was always going to hit us hard. We lost the best target man in the league and one of the best left backs too. However, we have replaced them (in the most part) with players Sam deems good enough to have a bright future. Once the dust settles i firmly believe that we will be greatful for Sam's input. But we have to accept any rebuilding he is attempting has to be cautiously undertaken alongside securring our league status. We saw the results last year of wholesale changes to style and philiosophy.

As for his "I'm the expert" comment. Well quite frankly he is. If any of us were we'd be in the job ourselves. Let the man do his job and see where we are around Christmas.

And on a final note, i think Sam has given us more reason to cheer than any summer under Hughes. I'm adamant that Hughes would not have squeezed as much money out of our board. Sam has clearly pressured the powers that be to go that extra mile this close season. Every year numerous fans bemoan the lack of incoming transfers. Well that can't be levelled at Sam. He has now got the best back four i've seen us have since we won the title. Paid £6m for 'the future of Croatian football' and brought in a Real Madrid CL winner.

[Mr. E]

I'm going to have to take issue with a few things said on here.

Firstly football is business. We gladly welcome the TV revenue each year and as such we have to understand that needs must. Our stature is such that we need this money and we have to ensure we stay in the division which offers it....by any means. Sam kept us up last year with a side which was on its knees. We played ugly football and we got the points on the board. I don't believe there is a manager in the country capable of taking that same side and re-moulding them into a free flowing football side in the space of one close season. Souness had us playing beautiful stuff once upon a time. But he had the luxury of rebuilding a side who'd been relegated and still had Sir Jacks money.

Sam has said the likes of Elrio Van Heerden will not necessarily make an impact until the second half of the season. We have signed more players this summer than i can recall in many years. They will take time to settle. Due to our financial restraints we couldn't sign established premier league players, so they came from far and wide. This just adds longer to the settling period.

I'm not the optomistic type. But i feel some perspective is required here. Anyone who thought the squad would be top ten this season is deluded. Loosing such experience and influential types as Tugay and Oiijer was always going to hit us hard. We lost the best target man in the league and one of the best left backs too. However, we have replaced them (in the most part) with players Sam deems good enough to have a bright future. Once the dust settles i firmly believe that we will be greatful for Sam's input. But we have to accept any rebuilding he is attempting has to be cautiously undertaken alongside securring our league status. We saw the results last year of wholesale changes to style and philiosophy.

As for his "I'm the expert" comment. Well quite frankly he is. If any of us were we'd be in the job ourselves. Let the man do his job and see where we are around Christmas.

And on a final note, i think Sam has given us more reason to cheer than any summer under Hughes. I'm adamant that Hughes would not have squeezed as much money out of our board. Sam has clearly pressured the powers that be to go that extra mile this close season. Every year numerous fans bemoan the lack of incoming transfers. Well that can't be levelled at Sam. He has now got the best back four i've seen us have since we won the title. Paid £6m for 'the future of Croatian football' and brought in a Real Madrid CL winner.

So we have "the best back four since '94", a Real Madrid CL winner and the future of Croatian football and yet we have to be deluded to hope of finishing top 10?

[patrickvalery]

So we have "the best back four since '94", a Real Madrid CL winner and the future of Croatian football and yet we have to be deluded to hope of finishing top 10?

Yes i believe so. The areas of the squad which require time to settle are not the back four and Salgado (whether thats in the back four or the midfield). I think the likes of Hoillet, N'Zonzi, Van Heerden, Kalinic etc... will need half the season the get up to full speed. I don't think half a season is long enough to expect a top ten finish. Do you?

The only bit of business which perplexes me is Di Santo. Not because of his talent. But because coupled with Kalinic it seems a big ask for such a young and inexperienced strike force to provide enough goals to expect a succesfull campaign. Other than that i don't have any issues with Allardyce and what he's done thus far.

[cruz]

In the first 5 minutes even I could see that the negative formation Allardyce started with was not working but it was his total pigheadedness in continuing with that broken formation that frustrated me and probably the majority of the crowd. We condeeded far too much space to a poor west ham side in midfield and seemed to have no urgency and no desire to win the game. Had we reverted to 4-4-2 at least at half time we would have had a comfortable victory.

Last season Allardyce was a necessary evil to get us out of the mire. Unfortunatley my fears of finding his style of play hard to swallow for a full season is coming true. It will be a long, painfully dull and frustrating journey to May 9th 2010.

[Big Fat Sam]

And on a final note, i think Sam has given us more reason to cheer than any summer under Hughes. I'm adamant that Hughes would not have squeezed as much money out of our board. Sam has clearly pressured the powers that be to go that extra mile this close season. Every year numerous fans bemoan the lack of incoming transfers. Well that can't be levelled at Sam. He has now got the best back four i've seen us have since we won the title. Paid £6m for 'the future of Croatian football' and brought in a Real Madrid CL winner.

I'd take any of the summer with Hughes over Sam at present. If Hughes had been made to raise 20M and cut 5M off the wage bill I reckon he would have walked. Best back four since we won the league, sorry since they haven't even played together thats quite a statement.

If we take half the season to get going we'll be down.

[patrickvalery]

I'd take any of the summer with Hughes over Sam at present. If Hughes had been made to raise 20M and cut 5M off the wage bill I reckon he would have walked. Best back four since we won the league, sorry since they haven't even played together thats quite a statement.

If we take half the season to get going we'll be down.

Rubbish!

With everyone fit the back four will almost certainly be Chimbonda, Nelsen, Samba, Givet. Only Chimbonda hasn't been a part of that unit and he's a very established PL defender.

I never said the whole side will take half a season to get going did I? But i think its fair to say the youngsters we've brought in will take this long to bed in. I'm afraid most people argued the toss about Kevin Davies having no sell on clause and how we should be looking to young talent. Well thats pretty much what we've done. With that comes a period of settling in. You can't have it both ways. Or very rarely anyway.

[Big Fat Sam]

Rubbish!

With everyone fit the back four will almost certainly be Chimbonda, Nelsen, Samba, Givet. Only Chimbonda hasn't been a part of that unit and he's a very established PL defender.

I never said the whole side will take half a season to get going did I? But i think its fair to say the youngsters we've brought in will take this long to bed in. I'm afraid most people argued the toss about Kevin Davies having no sell on clause and how we should be looking to young talent. Well thats pretty much what we've done. With that comes a period of settling in. You can't have it both ways. Or very rarely anyway.

So they have never played together but they are still the best back four we've ever had, sorry I suggest you read the first line of your reply. Also why have you not included our champions league winner?

This is what you said:

As for his "I'm the expert" comment. Well quite frankly he is. If any of us were we'd be in the job ourselves. Let the man do his job and see where we are around Christmas.

is christmas not half of the seaon over?? (not even ince got that long) He's got 10 games patrick for me, same as everyone gets every year. I'm well aware that kids need longer to settle especially those who have never played here before.

[patrickvalery]

So they have never played together but they are still the best back four we've ever had, sorry I suggest you read the first line of your reply. Also why have you not included our champions league winner?

This is what you said:

As for his "I'm the expert" comment. Well quite frankly he is. If any of us were we'd be in the job ourselves. Let the man do his job and see where we are around Christmas.

is christmas not half of the seaon over?? (not even ince got that long) He's got 10 games patrick for me, same as everyone gets every year. I'm well aware that kids need longer to settle especially those who have never played here before.

I think you need to take some of your own medicine matey. I said as good as we've had SINCE we won the title. I completely stand by that. I cannot think of a better back four we've had since the glory days than Chimbonda, Nelsen, Samba and Givet. Yes as a complete unit the four haven't played together because of Nelsen's injury. But 3 of them have played together regularly and I'm pretty certain Chimbonda will add to that.

The reason i didn't include Salgado in there is becasue i don't think he's in our strongest back four line up YET. Thats not to say he won't be.

And whats your point about Christmas being half the season? Big deal. We can all work that out. I'm obviously missing your point. I don't feel Sam should be judged now and i firmly believe at Christmas we'll be doing much better. Because, as i said, the young lads will take that long to adapt.

I'm not sure what you're getting so upset about.

[GiddyGoat]

I'm no expert in running a football club or coaching a prem team, but I do know @#/? when I see it..........

[Big Fat Sam]

I think you need to take some of your own medicine matey. I said as good as we've had SINCE we won the title. I completely stand by that. I cannot think of a better back four we've had since the glory days than Chimbonda, Nelsen, Samba and Givet. Yes as a complete unit the four haven't played together because of Nelsen's injury. But 3 of them have played together regularly and I'm pretty certain Chimbonda will add to that.

The reason i didn't include Salgado in there is becasue i don't think he's in our strongest back four line up YET. Thats not to say he won't be.

And whats your point about Christmas being half the season? Big deal. We can all work that out. I'm obviously missing your point. I don't feel Sam should be judged now and i firmly believe at Christmas we'll be doing much better. Because, as i said, the young lads will take that long to adapt.

I'm not sure what you're getting so upset about.

ROFLMAO

[philipl]

I cannot see anything wrong with Patrick Valery's comments.

[patrickvalery]

ROFLMAO

This doesn't mean a thing to me. But good argument my friend.

I cannot see anything wrong with Patrick Valery's comments.

I must admit Phillip, i didn't think i'd written much to offend anyone. Guess i misjudged the situation.

[Big Fat Sam]

I cannot see anything wrong with Patrick Valery's comments.

So you too believe that we have the best back four since 94?? Personally I believe the proof is in the pudding and since they have never played together you cannot say that. There's a term in football for such statements, "on paper" why because until they play together thats all it is an idea/opinion. Once we've seen them on the pitch for some time you can start with all these pre-mature claims.

Michel Salgado is the best defensive midfielder that Rovers have had period!!

Is he??? because I see a lot of holes in statement at present. But its no different to the one made by Patrick.

If we wait till christmas it could be too late (not wanting it to get to that) but even last year we cut it fine if thats to be the case. once we're ten games in we'll all have a better understanding of where we as a team lie within that structure. But if we're struggling still we will need to act much sooner than christmas.

[Parsonblue]

He's got 10 games patrick for me, same as everyone gets every year. I'm well aware that kids need longer to settle especially those who have never played here before.

I think you'll find that John Williams and co will give him a lot longer - and rightly so. This is not the Blackburn Rovers of Jack Walker's day, this is a totally different club that is financially struggling at the moment. Sam's percentage football might not be to everyone's taste, although I found the previous three games very entertaining, but if we are still a Premier League club next May then it will be judged a success.

Also, sacking Paul Ince and his staff brought major financial problems to the club. We are hardly likely to go down that road again. We are on our third manager in a short space of time. What we need now is a period of continuity. Hopefully, Sam will be here for some time to build the club up - hopefully starting with the Academy, which I believe he is involved in finding the new head of the Academy.

[patrickvalery]

I think you'll find that John Williams and co will give him a lot longer - and rightly so. This is not the Blackburn Rovers of Jack Walker's day, this is a totally different club that is financially struggling at the moment. Sam's percentage football might not be to everyone's taste, although I found the previous three games very entertaining, but if we are still a Premier League club next May then it will be judged a success.

Also, sacking Paul Ince and his staff brought major financial problems to the club. We are hardly likely to go down that road again. We are on our third manager in a short space of time. What we need now is a period of continuity. Hopefully, Sam will be here for some time to build the club up - hopefully starting with the Academy, which I believe he is involved in finding the new head of the Academy.

Hurrah! Some sense at last!

[Big Fat Sam]

I think you'll find that John Williams and co will give him a lot longer - and rightly so. This is not the Blackburn Rovers of Jack Walker's day, this is a totally different club that is financially struggling at the moment. Sam's percentage football might not be to everyone's taste, although I found the previous three games very entertaining, but if we are still a Premier League club next May then it will be judged a success.

Also, sacking Paul Ince and his staff brought major financial problems to the club. We are hardly likely to go down that road again. We are on our third manager in a short space of time. What we need now is a period of continuity. Hopefully, Sam will be here for some time to build the club up - hopefully starting with the Academy, which I believe he is involved in finding the new head of the Academy.

This is just a senario:

So if after ten games we are say 4-5 points a drift in the bottom three you wouldn't be worried? Because I would be.

Given our narrow escape last year I'd like to think should that senario arise we would act quicker, because we cut it fine last year.

I could not agree more we need continuity, but sacking a manager is nothing compared to the finacial losses of relegation. I hope Sam is the man to bring it to our club, but if he's not then so be it.

As I said a senario, not what I want or what I believe is best for the club.

[tony gale's mic]

4 points out of 9 this time last year under Ince.

Bit of a pointless comparison...it was the 8 games lost in a row that cost Ince his job.

[The Prof.]

Yesterday was truly grim - injury's didn't help.

But As for Sam - well I don't see anyone else with a pedigree coming here at the moment (and I can't think another manager with prem experience being remotely interested) and unless you want a puppet like Ince arguing for short change for people like Andrews (how poor was he yesterday!) then doffing their forelock I think we need to stick with him. At least he has stuck his chin out for cash from the sales.

[American]

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