Wiggy Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Ha! Sam admits But Im also aware the rest of the team has not contributed enough goals. I seem to be repeating myself week after week. We just cant find a cutting edge to give us a victory." Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/152053/Nikola-Kalinic-kept-out-of-firing-line/ If he starts on Sunday with Kalinic on the bench he's not just stubborn he's absolutely nuts. His main concern should be who to partner Nico with up front in a 442. A win on Sunday would give him much needed breathing space. Aimless balls played to a lone striker will result in the end of his career ( without wanting to sound Machiavellian, is a big payout what he wants ?)
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Paul Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 http://www.dailyexpr...of-firing-line/[/quote] Our manager seems to have completely lost the plot.
Bobby G Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 GIVE HIM A CHANCE! For God's sake what is he on about?
Majiball Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Ha! Sam admits “But I’m also aware the rest of the team has not contributed enough goals. I seem to be repeating myself week after week. We just can’t find a cutting edge to give us a victory." Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/152053/Nikola-Kalinic-kept-out-of-firing-line/ So thats why we never start games till the second half. If my boss gave me the same pep talk week in & out after one year I too would probably just switch off as well. No wonder we always concede so early.
Steve Moss Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 GIVE HIM A CHANCE! For God's sake what is he on about? I want to give, and I am giving, Sam a 'chance', to the extent my opinion counts of anything (which it doesn't). I also want to see some improvement. It wouldn't take much for the Rovers to consistently beat the bottom 10 sides and sometimes beat/sometimes get points from top ten sides. Sometimes we're so close it hurts. But to get over that line, something needs to change. It sounds like Sam's coming to that realization. I hope.
Ossydave Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I want to give, and I am giving, Sam a 'chance', to the extent my opinion counts of anything (which it doesn't). I also want to see some improvement. It wouldn't take much for the Rovers to consistently beat the bottom 10 sides and sometimes beat/sometimes get points from top ten sides. Sometimes we're so close it hurts. But to get over that line, something needs to change. It sounds like Sam's coming to that realization. I hope. He was on about giving Kalinic a chance not Sam I would have thought. The lad plays his best game in a Rovers shirt, he'll be chomping at the bit dying to get back on the pitch and expert benches him? It absolutely beggars belief!
Steve Moss Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 He was on about giving Kalinic a chance not Sam I would have thought. The lad plays his best game in a Rovers shirt, he'll be chomping at the bit dying to get back on the pitch and expert benches him? It absolutely beggars belief! My apologies. I misunderstood. I agree that Kalinic needs to start. As does Di Santo and Hoilett. They'll actually run and fight for the ball, which would be a plus.
John Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Sam Allardyce has done a very decent job considering the budget restrictions and while their position will remain perilous, probably all season, he’s got the know-how to keep them doing just enough to steer clear of danger.
gumboots Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Sam Allardyce has done a very decent job considering the budget restrictions and while their position will remain perilous, probably all season, he’s got the know-how to keep them doing just enough to steer clear of danger. Well, I never did rate his football knowledge when he worked for Talksport and to say we are neithr good nor bad is rubbish. we are very bad more of the time than not. WE should beat teams like west Ham at our own place so he's wrong about performing in line with expectations. In line with media expectations perhaps but not in line with even moderate fan expectations. We should be comfortable in 13th not looking back over our shoulders at the teams who could so easily overtake us.
67splitscreen Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Its possible that this may have been posted somewhere else - apologies to Freddy:- Is this Allardyce? Or is this just fantasy? Caught in a poor team, Try to hoof it to victory, Open your eyes, Just stop telling lies and see, We're just a poor team, we have no quality, Because its easy come, easy go, Just like that Elrio, Any way the Blues scores, doesn’t really matter to me, To me. Grella, just skinned a man, Put the ball between his legs, But he slipped and now he's dead. Givet's game has just begun, But Nelsen's gone and thrown it all away. Roberts!!! Oooohh!!! Didn’t mean to make us lose, He couldn't score if we played until tomorrow, Carry on, carry on, cos we are Blackburn Rovers. Big Sam, your time has come, Sends shivers down my spine, When you say that we played fine . Goodbye, Pedersen, you’ve got to go, Gotta leave you far behind with your long throws. Nikola!!! Oooohh!!! (anywhere the ball goes) I’m not gonna lie, I sometimes wish you'd never been bought at all. I see a little overweight South African, Benni Mac, Benni Mac, will you do a back heel. Hoilett quick as lightning, Jacobsen is frightening me. Franco Di Santo, Franco Di Santo Franco Di Santo, Franco Di Santo Where's the goal I don't know We’re just a poor team, nobody likes us, He’s just a right-back too old for Madrid, Spare me this game from this monstrosity. Dunny, the window, please don’t let him go, Nzonzi, no, we will not let him go – let him go Nzonzi, we will not let him go – let him go Nzonzi, we will not let him go – let him go We will not let him go – let him go We will not let him go – let him go No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Allegedly part of the song has just been on five live, they are obviously watching this board.
RIML Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Sam Allardyce says he is not worried about the sack at Blackburn. Why on earth should he be?Big Sam kept them in the Premier League last season and is doing a good job on limited resources. Rovers need him more than Allardyce needs them. I have to say I think he's right, ok it's Wooly from the Daily Star but here's why I think he's right, We have been on a bad run lately and people think it's a similar run to what Ince had before he got the sack, err no because we were in the bottom three with Ince and looked certain for the drop. This talk of sacking Allardyce when we're only a win away from being around the top 10, is just crazy. He's done a good job so far on limited resources, he's brought in players for the future and who he thinks will fetch us some money in the long term, Kalinic and Nzonzi. He has also brought in some more experienced players, Givet, Salgado, Chimbonda, Jacobsen. He's played Dunn in his preferred position and got him playing back to his best, he's brought players through the ranks, albeit in cup games and the odd Prem game but still they are showing signs of promise for the future, Jones, Olsson, Hoilett. As you can tell I'm looking at the positives and will continue to do so. The negatives well our away form is bad and playing one up front is quite negative but surely the fans attitude is negative too. Maybe it's time we ALL started believing in the manager and the players and get behind them.
ABBEY Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Maybe it's time we ALL started believing in the manager and the players and get behind them. believe in hoof ball ,never.
John Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I have to say I think he's right, ok it's Wooly from the Daily Star but here's why I think he's right, We have been on a bad run lately and people think it's a similar run to what Ince had before he got the sack, err no because we were in the bottom three with Ince and looked certain for the drop. This talk of sacking Allardyce when we're only a win away from being around the top 10, is just crazy. Agree with this, bottom half is ever so tight. No doubt the next few games are vital and we have to pick up some points (and wins). However, some are acting like we are cast adrift at the bottom. When it comes to Rovers I'm a natural pessimist, but am not too worried yet.
RibbleValleyRover Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 People go on about hoof football, but a change in manager resulting in better looking, more stylish football doesn't guarantee that it would transform our season and keep us well clear from a relegation battle. I've seen sides play nice attractive football and they have gone down, West Brom being a recent example. I'm not happy with the situation we are in, but the style of football isn't a major point for me, its the fact that we are not picking up points. I think most fans would accept/ignore the dire football if we were picking up points, i know i would.
PAFELL Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Agree with this, bottom half is ever so tight. No doubt the next few games are vital and we have to pick up some points (and wins). However, some are acting like we are cast adrift at the bottom. When it comes to Rovers I'm a natural pessimist, but am not too worried yet. John, ny view isn't the league position alone - but the way - the style Rovers are playing. At the begining of the season I thought Rovers, with the current squad, had a chance of finishing well in the top 10. Also without any fear of relegation, but a safe top 10 position. But I also hoped that Rovers would have ago at teams instead of just sitting back and hoping for a clean sheet. Kicking it forward and hoping for a goal. Set pieces are all part of the game and yes every team should and do work on them. But no team should play in a maaner that they are relying on them. There are times this season - sadly briefly - when the team has played with the ball on the floor and the skill and the movement is a shock because we are not used to seeing it from a Rovers team these days. The truth is this team can play skillful competitive football, but the manager is stopping them doing it by the way he sets the team up and the tactic he gives them. Yes a few more points on the board sees Rovers in the top 10 and safer from the drop. But at this moment in time the confidence is sapped throught the squad and that is down to the manager. Now for me, that has to change or the manager has to go.
sambo Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Oh so playing Kalinic in a relegation battle could ruin him... What I think that is more than reasonable. Leaving him rotting on the bench with no reward for a good performance will ruin him you fat tosser.
John Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 John, ny view isn't the league position alone - but the way - the style Rovers are playing. I do think we play too much long ball, some of it seems aimless. However, IMO, we don't have the players to play it on the deck successfully. Even Dunn, arguably our best player, is erratic with his passing. Technically, our players don't have the ability to pass the ball accurately. In the past, with Tugay and Bentley, you would want to use the ball to better effect, but we don't have those type of players on our books anymore. Villa in the second half for example, sat back, which provides more space and were happy for us to pass it about in less threatening areas of the pitch.
Backroom Tom Posted January 16, 2010 Backroom Posted January 16, 2010 I've said this before but I honestly think Sams treatment of Kalinic is appaling. Fair enough if he was genuinely protecting him but we've seen proof that thats not the case. If he was easing him in for his own good trying to protect his confidence he wouldn't have: - Thrown him in for 75 minutes against Sunderland - Singled him out in interviews for missing chances - Dropped him after being the best man in a Rovers shirt on the park (after Brum) - Moaned constantly in the press about our strikers not scoring And for me the most insulting to Kalinic. - bleat on about how we can't afford quality like Darren Bent and Crouch, basically telling Nikola that he had to settle for him and he isn't good enough. Sam deals in excuses but if Kalinic does play tomorrow and scores no doubt he will try and claim the credit for it.
Backroom DE. Posted January 16, 2010 Backroom Posted January 16, 2010 I've said this before but I honestly think Sams treatment of Kalinic is appaling. Fair enough if he was genuinely protecting him but we've seen proof that thats not the case. If he was easing him in for his own good trying to protect his confidence he wouldn't have: - Thrown him in for 75 minutes against Sunderland - Singled him out in interviews for missing chances - Dropped him after being the best man in a Rovers shirt on the park (after Brum) - Moaned constantly in the press about our strikers not scoring And for me the most insulting to Kalinic. - bleat on about how we can't afford quality like Darren Bent and Crouch, basically telling Nikola that he had to settle for him and he isn't good enough. Sam deals in excuses but if Kalinic does play tomorrow and scores no doubt he will try and claim the credit for it. I agree, Sam was singling Kalinic out long before he had a go at MGP, Benni or Diouf. At the time I said I couldn't understand why and I still don't. His treatment of the lad is baffling and worrying.
S15 Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I'll slag Sam when I think he's doing something wrong, but to play Devils' Advocate you can say what you want about the way he's treated Kalinic but when he arrived he looked hopeless however now he's started looking the part. Perhaps some praise for the manager in this instance?
Backroom Tom Posted January 16, 2010 Backroom Posted January 16, 2010 None at all from me, I have no qualms with him not playing at first but if that is the case why play him at Sunderland? And if he is as delicate as Sam makes it seem why the criticism?
S15 Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 Not sure, but he works with him on a day to day basis and whatever he's said/done, he's started to get a reaction.
Backroom DE. Posted January 16, 2010 Backroom Posted January 16, 2010 I'll slag Sam when I think he's doing something wrong, but to play Devils' Advocate you can say what you want about the way he's treated Kalinic but when he arrived he looked hopeless however now he's started looking the part. Perhaps some praise for the manager in this instance? He looked off the pace in his first ever premier league game, but that's to be expected. He hasn't really played enough since then to claim he's looked hopeless, decent or otherwise until quite recently IMO, and he has looked the part. Obviously Sam sees him in training every day, so maybe he's been slacking or underperforming there. If Kalinic has responded to BFS's criticism favourably then great, but I still don't think he deserved to be singled out for criticism over other players.
Blue blood Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 I do think we play too much long ball, some of it seems aimless. However, IMO, we don't have the players to play it on the deck successfully. Even Dunn, arguably our best player, is erratic with his passing. Technically, our players don't have the ability to pass the ball accurately. YES WE DO! WE'VE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN THIS SEASON, WHENEVER WE PASS IT ON THE DECK WE LOOK A FAR BETTER TEAM. In the past, with Tugay and Bentley, you would want to use the ball to better effect, but we don't have those type of players on our books anymore. Villa in the second half for example, sat back, which provides more space and were happy for us to pass it about in less threatening areas of the pitch. I WOULDN'T CALL HITTING THE POST TWICE LESS THREATENING AREAS OF THE PITCH. THE UNDENIABLE FACT IS WHEN WE PLAYED IT ON THE DECK WE LOOKED A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER.
PAFELL Posted January 16, 2010 Posted January 16, 2010 None at all from me, I have no qualms with him not playing at first but if that is the case why play him at Sunderland? And if he is as delicate as Sam makes it seem why the criticism? If I remember correctly, were not both Bennie & roberts injured? I remember Sam saying he had no choice to play him against sunderland - but wished he didn't have to do so.
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