[Archived] Sam Allardyce

[thenodrog]

god help us then,the football is crap now just wait for next season

Mid table with crap football waggy.... then surely with each transfer window passing the only way is up.

btw what your golden boy Incy up to these days? Living the high life off the money that he's blagged off us I'd imagine.

How many besides you are in his fan club these days?

[waggy]

Mid table with crap football waggy.... then surely with each transfer window passing the only way is up.

btw what your golden boy Incy up to these days? Living the high life off the money that he's blagged off us I'd imagine.

How many besides you are in his fan club these days?

he'll be sat in the sun with that other loser hughsey

[DanLad]

I guess it's obvious he's a fake Sam when you hear Salgado is doing backup vocals, he wouldn't settle for second place, it was believable up until then.

Salgado would be happy to do whatever is required for the team, so long as the SONG gets to number 1.

[jannerman]

Just spent 10 mins cracking up at that twitter feed - if it wasn't a fake I think I'd add Sam to my list of heroes - totally random but well worth a giggle

[American]

Have been critical of Sam in the past, but he has done a great job turning the season around and getting results at home against the top 3 (Chelsea twice). Our defense, at times, is one of the most dominant in the league and hopefully it will get consistency and give us a better goal differential next season. Must be nice to be able to choose 2 from Samba, Givet, Jones and Nelsen and even be able to play Givet at LB (though not his best position). Salgado is also starting to show that he still has something left. Wouldn't mind seeing Chimbonda replaced, if we can find someone to take him, with a fullback who won't give wingers too much space.

Have also been very happy with him giving youth a chance and looking for younger continental players.

Overall, would just like to see some consistency in our approach to games. There seems to be a mix of really good play where we score goals with dreadfully boring play. Bolton home is a great example of this. The first 40 minutes was dull, but it picked up for the rest of it. In the entirety of the season, I'd probably have to give him a B.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Has fully won me over...working miracles with the budget available to him.

[RevidgeBlue]

I would have sacked Sam after the Citeh away game and I don't like the way we play under him even on the occasions when we eke out a result. Neither do I think we've had quite such a miraculous season as he makes out.

Nevertheless with twelve or thirteen games to go I thought we'd limp home with about 39 points so credit is due for a much better finish than anticipated a couple of months or so ago.

Whether or not we're on the right lines long term I'm not yet convinced by, we're carrying a hell of a lot of very expensive deadwood imo with the likes of Jacobsen, Chimbonda, Salgado, Diouf, Grella, Andrews and Pedersen so unless there is substantial investment in the midfield and attacking areas this summer I feel we will start next season as favourites to go down with Wolves and WBA and whoever is promoted via the play offs.

Looked at in black and white with a transfer budget of -16m before the off I suppose it's been very satisfactory in that sense, but for me it's been one of the least enjoyable campaigns in nearly 40 seasons of watching us.

I am encouraged by the emergence of Jones, Olsson, Hoillet and Nzonzi so if we can maintain that side of things and get out of the recent habit of selling our best players then we might start to really improve in the long term.

[CrazyIvan]

I would have sacked Sam after the Citeh away game and I don't like the way we play under him even on the occasions when we eke out a result. Neither do I think we've had quite such a miraculous season as he makes out.

Nevertheless with twelve or thirteen games to go I thought we'd limp home with about 39 points so credit is due for a much better finish than anticipated a couple of months or so ago.

Whether or not we're on the right lines long term I'm not yet convinced by, we're carrying a hell of a lot of very expensive deadwood imo with the likes of Jacobsen, Chimbonda, Salgado, Diouf, Grella, Andrews and Pedersen so unless there is substantial investment in the midfield and attacking areas this summer I feel we will start next season as favourites to go down with Wolves and WBA and whoever is promoted via the play offs.

Looked at in black and white with a transfer budget of -16m before the off I suppose it's been very satisfactory in that sense, but  for me it's been one of the least enjoyable campaigns in nearly 40 seasons of watching us.

I am encouraged by the emergence of Jones, Olsson, Hoillet and Nzonzi so if we can maintain that side of things and get out of the recent habit of selling our best players then we might start to really improve in the long term.

What planet are you on?

[American]

Whether or not we're on the right lines long term I'm not yet convinced by, we're carrying a hell of a lot of very expensive deadwood imo with the likes of Jacobsen, Chimbonda, Salgado, Diouf, Grella, Andrews and Pedersen so unless there is substantial investment in the midfield and attacking areas this summer I feel we will start next season as favourites to go down with Wolves and WBA and whoever is promoted via the play offs.

Must suck going through life with such a negative outlook.

We do need investment in those areas, but even as is, no way do we go into next season as one of the 5-7 favourites for relegation.

Obviously you haven't been watching lately if you think Salgado is deadwood....

[Kelbo]

Must suck going through life with such a negative outlook.

We do need investment in those areas, but even as is, no way do we go into next season as one of the 5-7 favourites for relegation.

Obviously you haven't been watching lately if you think Salgado is deadwood....

Salgodo is showing what a great professional he is, ability, experience and quality, a really top pro!

And for all his achievements works so hard for the team, 100% commitment.

[RevidgeBlue]

Obviously you haven't been watching lately if you think Salgado is deadwood....

He's improved considerably since his initial appearances but he's still only average at best imo.

Sam's signed three right backs none of whom have been as good as Emerton was in that position.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Whether or not we're on the right lines long term I'm not yet convinced by, we're carrying a hell of a lot of very expensive deadwood imo with the likes of Jacobsen, Chimbonda, Salgado, Diouf, Grella, Andrews and Pedersen so unless there is substantial investment in the midfield and attacking areas this summer I feel we will start next season as favourites to go down with Wolves and WBA and whoever is promoted via the play offs.

Kin'ell, welcome back Rev!

[roversmum]

A little ray of sunshine. Just when I was beginning to feel optimistic and look forward to next season

[Tom]

I had to leave before the lap of honour, did Sam get a good song from the fans?

I wasn't a fan of his early in the season but he certainly deserves credit.

[Parsonblue]

He's improved considerably since his initial appearances but he's still only average at best imo.

Sam's signed three right backs none of whom have been as good as Emerton was in that position.

I was very critical of Salgado when he arrived but having watched every game he has played for the club he has totally won me over. He has used his vast experience to adapt to the Premier League and over the past three months he has been one of our most consistent performers week in and week out. He also appears to be a good influence within the dressing room. From what I have seen, Salgado and Jacobsen are both far better full-backs than Emerton.

I would also disagree with you about us being favourites for relegation next season. While we have Sam at the helm I think we will continue to enjoy Premier League football at Ewood Park. It may not always be pretty - although to be honest I have thoroughly enjoyed this season - but Sam is the type of manager who can organize a team to get results when required. He also appears to be developing an excellent youth policy which is vital for a club like the Rovers.

[Hughesy]

Neither do I think we've had quite such a miraculous season as he makes out.

unless there is substantial investment in the midfield and attacking areas this summer I feel we will start next season as favourites to go down with Wolves and WBA and whoever is promoted via the play offs.

Looked at in black and white with a transfer budget of -16m before the off I suppose it's been very satisfactory

Ok so we started with -16m worth of talent, we are currently 10th, and reached a semi - yet its not been a very good season???

Favourites to go down? & Emerton a better right back that Salgado?? Dont talk our of your arse - or has your profile been hacked by a dingle???

[Seedstral]

You only had to look at the players reaction to Samba's goal to realise they are fully behind the manager and i'm just glad the board didn't buckle under pressure to get rid back in January as in my opinion their is no better manager to take this club forward with the budget he has. Granted the football's not great at times but its a results business at the end of the day and the way the fans responded towards him today shows in my opinion that he has finally won the majority of them over!!!

[jim mk2]

I would have sacked Sam after the Citeh away game and I don't like the way we play under him even on the occasions when we eke out a result. Neither do I think we've had quite such a miraculous season as he makes out.

Nevertheless with twelve or thirteen games to go I thought we'd limp home with about 39 points so credit is due for a much better finish than anticipated a couple of months or so ago.

Whether or not we're on the right lines long term I'm not yet convinced by, we're carrying a hell of a lot of very expensive deadwood imo with the likes of Jacobsen, Chimbonda, Salgado, Diouf, Grella, Andrews and Pedersen so unless there is substantial investment in the midfield and attacking areas this summer I feel we will start next season as favourites to go down with Wolves and WBA and whoever is promoted via the play offs.

Looked at in black and white with a transfer budget of -16m before the off I suppose it's been very satisfactory in that sense, but for me it's been one of the least enjoyable campaigns in nearly 40 seasons of watching us.

I am encouraged by the emergence of Jones, Olsson, Hoillet and Nzonzi so if we can maintain that side of things and get out of the recent habit of selling our best players then we might start to really improve in the long term.

Simon, that's a load of provocative rubbish... and you know it.

[RevidgeBlue]

Simon, that's a load of provocative rubbish... and you know it.

You're entitled to that viewpoint of course but I'm not taking the rise, that's genuinely the way I view things looking towards next season.

Which bits do you find provocative, better finish than looked likely, successful finish in the circumstances, or encouraging to see the youngsters come through?

[Hughesy]

Perhaps the nonesense about one of the least enjoyable in 40 years?!! Or do you prefer relegation seasons?!

Love the comment from Sam, so true - "I'm not overly concerned about what Arsène says, he has said it before. It was a tactic that worked well. I prefer him criticising me and us winning than praising me and us losing."

[RevidgeBlue]

Perhaps the nonesense about one of the least enjoyable in 40 years?!! Or do you prefer relegation seasons?!

I did say "one of" which sort of implies the relegation seasons were worse!.

Nevertheless I do not enjoy the style of play under Sam. That's a personal view and it might change for the better in future seasons.

And yes before anyone makes the obvious point, I'd rather we bored the pants off everyone and stayed up than played pretty flowery football and went down. I'd rather still we stayed up and played a bit of football.

[unluckymorton]

I did say "one of" which sort of implies the relegation seasons were worse!.

Nevertheless I do not enjoy the style of play under Sam. That's a personal view and it might change for the better in future seasons.

And yes before anyone makes the obvious point, I'd rather we bored the pants off everyone and stayed up than played pretty flowery football and went down. I'd rather still we stayed up and played a bit of football.

If I was you I'd get a season ticket at The Hawthorns next season, they like to play a bit of football but look where it got them!?!

There were some very good moves against supposedly one of the best footballing sides in Europe yesterday. We'd be crazy not to play physical and use the long high balls, Arsenal couldn't handle that just as we can't handle their football. Should we have tried to play them at their own game?

Yesterday was Sam's style, if you didn't enjoy it you need your head seeing to.

[Harry Balls]

When we play hoofball, we look awful. When we keep the ball on the floor, we look like a proper football team and would give the best in this division a run for their money on our day.

What frustrates me (and I guess most of the other naysayers on here) is that if we can see this, then why can't Sam? Why is playing football always a last resort?

A good manager should always pick the system that fits the players and not the other way around. Nobody's demanding that we play like Barcelona, but the usual one-dimensional tactics clearly aren't what's best for this team.

[broadsword]

Yesterday was Sam's style, if you didn't enjoy it you need your head seeing to.

People defending Allardyce's style of play do themselves no favours with this kind of over-aggressive defend-at-all-costs mentality.

I didn't see the game yesterday, but to suggest that someone who doesn't like watching aerial bombardments has a screw loose is not on in my book.

Some people are pro-Allardyce, some people aren't. It seems the anti-camp is more tolerant of opposing views than the pro-camp, which feels the need to bitch-slap every single post which could be construed as negative. It's tiresome, boring and annoying.

If people keep up with this nonsense, people are going to stop posting and we'll be left in a "Isn't Allardyce great" la-la world where everything is great.

[Gav]

I would have sacked Sam after the Citeh away game and I don't like the way we play under him even on the occasions when we eke out a result. Neither do I think we've had quite such a miraculous season as he makes out.

Nevertheless with twelve or thirteen games to go I thought we'd limp home with about 39 points so credit is due for a much better finish than anticipated a couple of months or so ago.

Whether or not we're on the right lines long term I'm not yet convinced by, we're carrying a hell of a lot of very expensive deadwood imo with the likes of Jacobsen, Chimbonda, Salgado, Diouf, Grella, Andrews and Pedersen so unless there is substantial investment in the midfield and attacking areas this summer I feel we will start next season as favourites to go down with Wolves and WBA and whoever is promoted via the play offs.

Looked at in black and white with a transfer budget of -16m before the off I suppose it's been very satisfactory in that sense, but for me it's been one of the least enjoyable campaigns in nearly 40 seasons of watching us.

I am encouraged by the emergence of Jones, Olsson, Hoillet and Nzonzi so if we can maintain that side of things and get out of the recent habit of selling our best players then we might start to really improve in the long term.

I think you’ve called it about right Rev, but I do think we are on the right path, especially his dealings with the younger members of the squad, it’s refreshing to see them given a chance.

His points tally at home has been great, credit where credits due, his away policy has been disgusting and disrespectful to the people who travel away. In times when money is tight he should hold his head in shame for his approach to away fixtures, that leaves a bad taste in the mouth for me.

I was talking to a couple of lads yesterday who both came out with the same line:

“You can’t knock his record, but his football is cr@p to watch”

Now I’d never met either of these lads before, but its certainly a feeling you get amongst many of the fans, and they’ll not stand for cr@p football forever. As soon as things start to go wrong, and at some stage they will, he’ll be forced out of the club by the supporters if the football doesn’t improve. Can he improve the style of football with his transfer budget, without a doubt, but does he want to?

I would also add here that I believe the football has improved from the start of the season. I think Benni big Mac moving on was the key to improving team spirit and the players seem a much happier bunch on the face of things.

So Mr Allardyce, you’ve done very well in terms of league position, the away form is disgusting and style of play needs to improve, but you’re getting there and I hope progress continues next season.

Time to take his picture down from above our bed now also