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I am fairly pro Allardyce, whilst the results are ok he will do. He, like the players are merecnaries, that is fine by me, do a job and move on.

It is the club that matter and as a proud Rovers fan, no manager would ever stop me going to Ewood. Managers come and go, if you hate the manager you grin and bear it, hope he gets the bullet and look forward to games with a bit more vigour when he has departed.

The ups and downs (not like these are anything like bad times, but as the majority of our fans couldn't be arsed turning up for a Semi Final, they obviously don't recognise the ups either) of supporting a normal club, Isn't that what being a fan is all about?

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I was all in favour of Sam taking over after the Ince debacle, but am now getting really cheesed off with his tactics, his substitutions, his rantings after we've lost and a whole host of other stuff.. It's like we've done a rewind back to the end of the Souness era, and what really bothers me about that similarity is the position we will be in come the half-way stage.. at the rate we're going it's going to be in yet another fight against relegation (yes, I'm having a downer, but given the performances so far I think it's well justified)

What the answer is I have no idea - get rid of Sam? who do we replace him with? wait until the take-over? what if that happens too late to stem the tide? soooooo frustrating to be a Rovers fan at the moment :(

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. . . Those who criticise people who speak out seem unable to acknowledge there is room for debate. You won't find a fan who thinks about these things sensibly calling for the manager to be sacked, it's true there isn't an alternative. My big worry is I've seen with my own eyes this team can play but it happens so rarely one has to wonder what the manager is instructing them to do.....then absolving himself of responsibility when it goes badly wrong.

A very sensible post. I admit that I am in the pro-Allardyce camp. And I have a problem with "fans" that: 1) call for Sam's sacking; or, 2) can't communicate without insults. On the other hand, just because Sam is the best man for the job does not mean he's perfect. There are obvious patterns that need addressing. And I hope, and believe, that they will be addressed.

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I dont know for the life of me why people on here even bring up the idea of getting rid of Sam. Never in a million years, even if we get relagated will the current board consider sacking Sam. The only way Sam is leaving is if he quits. I absolutely guarantee it. So mentioning getting rid of Sam, is as useless and unproductive as imagining you're getting married to Angelina Jolie - aint gonna happen, so wise up!

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I dont know for the life of me why people on here even bring up the idea of getting rid of Sam. Never in a million years, even if we get relagated will the current board consider sacking Sam. The only way Sam is leaving is if he quits. I absolutely guarantee it. So mentioning getting rid of Sam, is as useless and unproductive as imagining you're getting married to Angelina Jolie - aint gonna happen, so wise up!

I wouldn't be so sure. If the takeover goes through and we're suddenly flush with cash, and performances and results haven't improved much I think he'll be gone by the end of this year.

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I know somebody who was a STH since 1987 and hasn't got one this season simply because of the 'football' on offer down at Ewood however I have no doubt he will return once the team starts to play 'football' again. Over the past 18 months we have played more long ball football than I can ever remember (and I've been going for 20+ years) and I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

For me, what compounds the issue is the manager seems quick to blame the players, 'his team' after every defeat. I know that players are over-pampered these days (I don't think anybody would dispute this), however how must the players, as a collective, when they read/hear in the press about how the manager is blaming them for yet another lost lead?

I'm happy to admit that I don't like the current manager and would have him out in a shot if there was a suitable/affordable replacement, however BRFC was here long before and will be here long after the current manager leaves for his next 'golden hello' BUT in the meantime he should be doing everything he can to turn around the current situation and stop taking every opportunity to promote 'Brand Allardyce'.

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I think Sam has taken us as far as he can and it's time for him and the hoof ball tactics to go.

No no, he's taken us as far as anyone could given the circumstances.

Change could be catastrophic, so why people are after the risk is beyond me.

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I wouldn't be so sure. If the takeover goes through and we're suddenly flush with cash, and performances and results haven't improved much I think he'll be gone by the end of this year.

I hope not. That's the ManCity way and look where it has got them. So long as we're not facing relegation (and I don't foresee that with Sam), a manager deserves a season or two to make the improvements cash would allow. Sam has had little to work with, so give him a chance once the formula changes.

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Change could be catastrophic, so why people are after the risk is beyond me.

Ahh so all this stuff about the Trust wanting to sell us is garbage right? We must resist all thes hostile takeover attempts!!!

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Ahh so all this stuff about the Trust wanting to sell us is garbage right? We must resist all thes hostile takeover attempts!!!

Feel that change in manager would be catastrophic, no change in owners would likewise be catastrophic.

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Ahh so all this stuff about the Trust wanting to sell us is garbage right? We must resist all thes hostile takeover attempts!!!

Well done for confirming what I already knew. You have no grasp of context and no hint of intellect.

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Well done for confirming what I already knew. You have no grasp of context and no hint of intellect.

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Blimey people sure forget quickly. 10th last season, Big Sam also saved us having to work with the scraps that Ince left him. Now is no time to be talking about a managerial change, it's way way premature. Besides, we might get taken over.

We tried playing football under Ince, we don't currently have the players to do so and be successful.

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Nothing "well done" about it Shilto, just something I think you should read. So I mistakenly thought you were referring to not changing ownership instead of management, hardly crime of the century and you retort with a straight ad-hominen attack on me. All you had to say was "I was talking about Sam" instead of trying to belittle me personally.

Another reason, I was mistaken was because you used the word "catastrophic" which to me can only apply to a Gaydamak-esque take-over where we could end up going into administration, I don't see how changing the manager could ever warrant a "catastrophic" situation.

I don't resort to ad-hominem attacks, but that's because I'm an adult....

P.S I still diagree with your point, if we as a club never did anything that could be negative, we wouldn't have to got to where we are today. Signing Alana Shearer could have been a bad move....

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Nothing "well done" about it Shilto, just something I think you should read. So I mistakenly thought you were referring to not changing ownership instead of management, hardly crime of the century and you retort with a straight ad-hominen attack on me. All you had to say was "I was talking about Sam" instead of trying to belittle me personally.

Another reason, I was mistaken was because you used the word "catastrophic" which to me can only apply to a Gaydamak-esque take-over where we could end up going into administration, I don't see how changing the manager could ever warrant a "catastrophic" situation.

I don't resort to ad-hominem attacks, but that's because I'm an adult....

P.S I still diagree with your point, if we as a club never did anything that could be negative, we wouldn't have to got to where we are today. Signing Alana Shearer could have been a bad move....

Considering a blind man on a galloping horse could have gathered I was referring to Allardyce, especially when you consider the sentence before the comment you quoted, and the name of the thread, i'll stick with my initial response.

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Considering a blind man on a galloping horse could have gathered I was referring to Allardyce, especially when you consider the sentence before the comment you quoted, and the name of the thread, i'll stick with my initial response.

Well as I said, I don't answer ad-hominems (lowest form on debate and your forte it seems) and it looks like you don't answer actual points made (like the fact 'even a blind man on galloping horse (the relevance of the horse bit is???)' could never comprehend the word "catastropic" being used to describe a change in management as you did. So wanna explain what disaster could happen to us if we did?

Or you could just try another Will Self styled tirade against my intelligence instead....

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