[Archived] Sam Allardyce

[thenodrog]

This is sheer stupidity and not the least bit funny. Not sure if you noticed, but Sam did change his tactics after Grella's introduction and we played the ball along the ground, and controlled possession for large periods in the second half.

To actually condone someone committing suicide in order to change tactics is moronic. Well done to everyone who +1d this idiot for reaching an all new low!

I'm rather hoping he'll do it.

[beerwins]

To Sam's credit I thought on Monday he got the second half tactics spot on, unfortunately the first half ones were suspect.

Hopefully when reviewing the footage of these last two games him and his staff will note how we looked far better with the ball on the deck and have a different approach against Chelsea.

If not Terry vs Kalinic in an aerial battle will be a walkover.

I dont want to be offensive here but how could he have got the second half tactics wrong, we were down to ten men and all Sam knows is defence, in all fairness we were better going forward in the second half than the first.

The game was overlooked because of the sending off, if Samba had played 90 mins I feel more questions would have been asked as to the lack of performance to which we saw today.

[sambo]

I'm rather hoping he'll do it.

Good one! A joke, arguably in bad taste, and you want someone else to commit suicide?

[dubdubdub]

I dont want to be offensive here but how could he have got the second half tactics wrong, we were down to ten men and all Sam knows is defence, in all fairness we were better going forward in the second half than the first.

The game was overlooked because of the sending off, if Samba had played 90 mins I feel more questions would have been asked as to the lack of performance to which we saw today.

I don't mean to be offensive but you can't read.

He said he got the second half tactics spot on.

[beerwins]

I don't mean to be offensive but you can't read.

He said he got the second half tactics spot on.

And I said how could he have got them wrong, maybe you need to learn to read.

[thenodrog]

Good one! A joke, arguably in bad taste, and you want someone else to commit suicide?

1. Make your mind up sambo.

2. Lighten up.

[braddock]

Under Allardcye's system I do not know where the goals are going to come from.

‎3 points against Everton - Howard mistake.

3 points against Blackpool - One own goal, won by one goal.

1 point vs. Machester City - Hart mistake.

1 point vs. Sunderland - No goals (though admittedly 45 minutes played with ten men)

1 point vs. Fulham - Diouf foul on Schwarzer.

Are we going to simply keep relying on errors all season? They will soon dry up. It would be like Burnley relying on their home form last season. Even the own goal yesterday couldn't salvage anything.

Percentage football through and through, we don't even whip a ball in any more, simply chip it over and hope to get a knock down. How negative is that? In an attacking position we are willing to put a ball in which cannot be attacked for the sole reason that it can't be defended either, and then we can feed off the scraps. Tragic.

What is this style of football saying to our players. It is saying that Allardyce does not believe in their abilities as footballers. There is a myth that our team cannot play football. I don't believe this is the case. Our team will not play football, and that is due to the instructions from the management, and forced into them in training. Yesterday we began to play football a little, but it was far too late. Allardyce will no doubt say that therefore playing football didn't work and so we should abandon it.

Our team is good enough to pass a ball. We don't have Tugay, we don't have Bentley, but instead we have a group of players such as Olsson, Salgado, Grella (when fit), Dunn (when fit), Diouf, N'Zonzi (can pass a ball to the wing), Pedersen (if played in a system which doesn't require him to whallop the ball as soon as he gets it) and Emerton (can be very effective against at least 7 teams in this league), but none of them are utilised. All of these players belong in a team 13th position in the league and above, and so therefore, when played as actual footballers should finish 13th in the league. This combined with the strength of the rest of players provides us with a good team. If we actually played a little football then there would also be less pressure on the defence as the opponents possession wouldn't be nearing the 65% mark ever game (sadly this is not a joke for the a huge amount of games).

Whereas in the past we were seen as a place for players to resurrect their careers, this is dropping away from us. Kalinic is wasted on us. Di Santo could have been so much more for us if employed properly, even as a substitute. Why would a team want to come to Blackburn right now? We cannot offer the wages and we cannot offer the culture, in footballing and lifestyle respects.

Our form WILL pick up soon. That's the way Allarcye's football works, but I do not care. It is having a negative impact on the football club in the long run, particularly as I believe that there would other managers who could simply keep us in this league, but by providing an actual game of football.

I hope the takeover happens soon and we can ship him out. It would be a travesty if he was given money to spend to further stamp his mark on the team.

[Hughesy]

1st of all - FACEBOOK Petition??? Come on - get a life!!

Sam likes stats so heres some - Some interesting Opta Stats on sky sports today

Goalkeepers – Robbo has the highest % of shots/ saves at 78%

Defenders – Salgado has the second highest tackle rate at 76%, behind Jara of West Brom 80%, however Salgado has made 6 more tackles

Our shot accuracy is the 17th in the league….however for me, this isn’t the problem, the problem is that we are not working goal-keepers hard enough – we are 19th in the league at the amount of shots we have had (69) – similar to Wolves, with the next closest being City, Brum & Bolton….we really do need to start trying our luck more – the likes of Pedersen, Diouf, Dunn can all hit a ball so start trying a few more efforts!

We are also 19th in the league in terms of successful passes, with stoke 1 pass worse off…again Bolton are not far above us either.

Based on 1st half only – we would be on 17pts, in 3rd – having only conceded 1st half goal so far, and never been in a losing position so far…..so clearly well organised going into the game.

However 2nd half only – we would be on 3pts, in 20th, conceding 9 goals in the 2nd half so far, and we have yet to win a 2nd half…..Now this could be down to any number of things, lack of concentration, lack of motivation (Sam), lack of fitness….Whatever it is, it needs sorting.

The lack of goals are not a major issue – 8 teams only have 7-9 goals (we have 8)…its keeping hold of our lead, we did it superbly against Everton but ever since we haven’t managed it & I think a lot of that comes down to not keeping hold of possession for longer.

[Bobby G]

Stats solidify the point that we've lost every single second half, and that's largely the responsibility of the manager. I dont think we are reading too much into it by saying this.

[MarkBRFC71]

1st of all - FACEBOOK Petition??? Come on - get a life!!

Sam likes stats so heres some - Some interesting Opta Stats on sky sports today

Goalkeepers – Robbo has the highest % of shots/ saves at 78%

Defenders – Salgado has the second highest tackle rate at 76%, behind Jara of West Brom 80%, however Salgado has made 6 more tackles

Our shot accuracy is the 17th in the league….however for me, this isn’t the problem, the problem is that we are not working goal-keepers hard enough – we are 19th in the league at the amount of shots we have had (69) – similar to Wolves, with the next closest being City, Brum & Bolton….we really do need to start trying our luck more – the likes of Pedersen, Diouf, Dunn can all hit a ball so start trying a few more efforts!

We are also 19th in the league in terms of successful passes, with stoke 1 pass worse off…again Bolton are not far above us either.

Based on 1st half only – we would be on 17pts, in 3rd – having only conceded 1st half goal so far, and never been in a losing position so far…..so clearly well organised going into the game.

However 2nd half only – we would be on 3pts, in 20th, conceding 9 goals in the 2nd half so far, and we have yet to win a 2nd half…..Now this could be down to any number of things, lack of concentration, lack of motivation (Sam), lack of fitness….Whatever it is, it needs sorting.

The lack of goals are not a major issue – 8 teams only have 7-9 goals (we have 8)…its keeping hold of our lead, we did it superbly against Everton but ever since we haven’t managed it & I think a lot of that comes down to not keeping hold of possession for longer.

Those stats demonstrate how ineffective the current style of play is:

1) Our goalkeeper and defence is the busiest in the Prem

2) The long ball passing never finds its target

3) We create very few chances and shots

All that points to a team in serious trouble. It's been said before but one of two things has to be changed; either the style of football/BFS's "system" - or the manager.

[braddock]

1st of all - FACEBOOK Petition??? Come on - get a life!!

Sam likes stats so heres some - Some interesting Opta Stats on sky sports today

Goalkeepers – Robbo has the highest % of shots/ saves at 78%

Defenders – Salgado has the second highest tackle rate at 76%, behind Jara of West Brom 80%, however Salgado has made 6 more tackles

Our shot accuracy is the 17th in the league….however for me, this isn’t the problem, the problem is that we are not working goal-keepers hard enough – we are 19th in the league at the amount of shots we have had (69) – similar to Wolves, with the next closest being City, Brum & Bolton….we really do need to start trying our luck more – the likes of Pedersen, Diouf, Dunn can all hit a ball so start trying a few more efforts!

We are also 19th in the league in terms of successful passes, with stoke 1 pass worse off…again Bolton are not far above us either.

Based on 1st half only – we would be on 17pts, in 3rd – having only conceded 1st half goal so far, and never been in a losing position so far…..so clearly well organised going into the game.

However 2nd half only – we would be on 3pts, in 20th, conceding 9 goals in the 2nd half so far, and we have yet to win a 2nd half…..Now this could be down to any number of things, lack of concentration, lack of motivation (Sam), lack of fitness….Whatever it is, it needs sorting.

The lack of goals are not a major issue – 8 teams only have 7-9 goals (we have 8)…its keeping hold of our lead, we did it superbly against Everton but ever since we haven’t managed it & I think a lot of that comes down to not keeping hold of possession for longer.

Obviously we will have a high amount of tackles and saves percentage when we have such a low percentage of possession due to the inability to enforce long ball, meaning the opposition have plenty of opportunity to do something with the ball as as soon as they lose it they find it back at their defenders feet with the ability to do what we should do - pass forward and build attacks.

Successful passes are low because we play long ball, and the amount of times we play for knockdowns means any attacking situation we are practically begging to give the ball away so we can feed off the scraps.

The lack of goals are an issue, looking at how we have scored them and the chances of continuing to score like that all seaosn.

[Gav]

To Sam's credit I thought on Monday he got the second half tactics spot on, unfortunately the first half ones were suspect.

The 2nd half tactics against Sunderland is what Allardyce is all about, don't concede and we'll get a point, he's great at setting the team up for that, just doesn’t work that often when we go a goal down, he has no plan B should that happen.

I praised the guy towards the end of last season because he deserved praise. The finish to the season and some of the football was better than it had been for a while. Sadly that’s not the case so far this season, we’ve gone backwards in a big way and I fear for our premiership survival.

I don’t think we should sack the manager by the way, not at this stage, but if we manage to secure investment he should be the first out of the door. Don’t allow him to spend 10m a lump like Davis, that would be a bridge to far for me.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Everyone talks about it being percentage football, but surely Sam must soon see that, when the oppositioin have the ball for 50% longer than us if not more, the percentages work against us. When we have so much less of the ball, we have to a) create more chances from less possession, or, take a higher percentage of our chances than they do of theirs. Given we have had no money to spend versus other teams, they should have, on avergae, got better at those 2 things than have we. Hence, we are doing worse.

More unforgivable in my view is that, given we have invested less, the manager HAS to make the most of what he has got. Hence, the freezing out of Roberts, our 2nd top scorer and also 2nd top assist provider last season, is criminal. I can only assume this has been done because Roberts had the balls to speak up last season when the manager was endlessly rubbishing our strikers in the press. I would guess that some of the other players are not impressed with his being frozen out, especially as the player he has played up top, Nico, is patently not capable of doing anything in that role.

[sweet]

Looking at the next 6 games, I cant honestly see us getting more than 4 points. We should beat wigan since were at home, and probably take a point off newcastle away. Chelsea, Man Utd, Spurs and Villa should all beat us. If we're lucky then at most we could get a draw against villa but thats still a dismal 5 points gained between now and December.

I think we're in for a gloomy november. We really needed to pick up 3 points against sunderland and stoke, unfortunatly we are going to pay the price for not doing so, and could find ourselves 19th come the start of the christmas period.

[JAL]

1st of all - FACEBOOK Petition??? Come on - get a life!!

Sam likes stats so heres some - Some interesting Opta Stats on sky sports today

Goalkeepers – Robbo has the highest % of shots/ saves at 78%

Defenders – Salgado has the second highest tackle rate at 76%, behind Jara of West Brom 80%, however Salgado has made 6 more tackles

Our shot accuracy is the 17th in the league….however for me, this isn’t the problem, the problem is that we are not working goal-keepers hard enough – we are 19th in the league at the amount of shots we have had (69) – similar to Wolves, with the next closest being City, Brum & Bolton….we really do need to start trying our luck more – the likes of Pedersen, Diouf, Dunn can all hit a ball so start trying a few more efforts!

We are also 19th in the league in terms of successful passes, with stoke 1 pass worse off…again Bolton are not far above us either.

Based on 1st half only – we would be on 17pts, in 3rd – having only conceded 1st half goal so far, and never been in a losing position so far…..so clearly well organised going into the game.

However 2nd half only – we would be on 3pts, in 20th, conceding 9 goals in the 2nd half so far, and we have yet to win a 2nd half…..Now this could be down to any number of things, lack of concentration, lack of motivation (Sam), lack of fitness….Whatever it is, it needs sorting.

The lack of goals are not a major issue – 8 teams only have 7-9 goals (we have 8)…its keeping hold of our lead, we did it superbly against Everton but ever since we haven’t managed it & I think a lot of that comes down to not keeping hold of possession for longer.

Excellent stuff Hughesy, got to go along with MarkBRFC71 in that thats a team in trouble with the manager clearly not at the races.

[sambo]

1st of all - FACEBOOK Petition??? Come on - get a life!!

Sam likes stats so heres some - Some interesting Opta Stats on sky sports today

Goalkeepers – Robbo has the highest % of shots/ saves at 78%

Defenders – Salgado has the second highest tackle rate at 76%, behind Jara of West Brom 80%, however Salgado has made 6 more tackles

Our shot accuracy is the 17th in the league….however for me, this isn’t the problem, the problem is that we are not working goal-keepers hard enough – we are 19th in the league at the amount of shots we have had (69) – similar to Wolves, with the next closest being City, Brum & Bolton….we really do need to start trying our luck more – the likes of Pedersen, Diouf, Dunn can all hit a ball so start trying a few more efforts!

We are also 19th in the league in terms of successful passes, with stoke 1 pass worse off…again Bolton are not far above us either.

Based on 1st half only – we would be on 17pts, in 3rd – having only conceded 1st half goal so far, and never been in a losing position so far…..so clearly well organised going into the game.

However 2nd half only – we would be on 3pts, in 20th, conceding 9 goals in the 2nd half so far, and we have yet to win a 2nd half…..Now this could be down to any number of things, lack of concentration, lack of motivation (Sam), lack of fitness….Whatever it is, it needs sorting.

The lack of goals are not a major issue – 8 teams only have 7-9 goals (we have 8)…its keeping hold of our lead, we did it superbly against Everton but ever since we haven’t managed it & I think a lot of that comes down to not keeping hold of possession for longer.

Hughesy, these are meant as a defence of Sam, however show the glaring problems we have at the moment.

We don't hold possession as we punt it! Which is the manager's strategy clearly, he has done it everywhere he's been!

Worrying stats

[A cup of beans]

Stats solidify the point that we've lost every single second half, and that's largely the responsibility of the manager. I dont think we are reading too much into it by saying this.

correct.. 100% right.

our midfield is far from outstanding but missing out the midfield and launching it from back to front, mostly by goalkicks isnt playing to their strengths.

grella, diouf, dunn, mgp, emerton and even andrews are all technical players- to varying degrees- most may not be good enough but theyd certainly be more comfortable if we played the ball to feet more.

another point- yesterday, benjani was supplied most of the time with the ball played to his feet... but kalinic as always got it launched up around his head (similar to how we supplied di santo last season and he is performing far better at wigan, who do try and play decent football. ... he's not much or a goal threat but a supplier... that isnt a coincidence is it ??

[JMillZz]

This is sheer stupidity and not the least bit funny. Not sure if you noticed, but Sam did change his tactics after Grella's introduction and we played the ball along the ground, and controlled possession for large periods in the second half.

To actually condone someone committing suicide in order to change tactics is moronic. Well done to everyone who +1d this idiot for reaching an all new low!

And you sir are a moron for not lightening up and taking things overly seriously. Do you REALLY think I'm condoning suicide?

I made the admittedly stupid comment to highlight the fact that things won't change. Everyones suggestions on what needs to change etc, it won't do; so I concocted a ridiculous scenario suggesting drastic measures which ultimately wouldn't change a thing.

People on here have nothing better to do than to be overly serious and act like they are superior. Sorry for having a joke you didn't find humorous, I've given my opinions about Rovers and thought I'd make a comment lacking any form of serious implications. If you don't have the mental/emotional capacity to understand the difference between a serious and ridiculous comment then that's your issue.

[BuckyRover]

I thought it was funny to be honest. It conjured up the image of theno subsequently sacrificing himself in a last ditch attempt to make the people of Blackburn appreciate the subtle nuances of Sam's unique brand of football.

[92er]

Jesus Christ man, get to bed. You've got School in the morning

Half term this week.

[92er]

1st of all - FACEBOOK Petition??? Come on - get a life!!

The lack of goals are not a major issue – 8 teams only have 7-9 goals (we have 8)…its keeping hold of our lead, we did it superbly against Everton but ever since we haven’t managed it & I think a lot of that comes down to not keeping hold of possession for longer.

I checked the stats and have seen we have scored 8 league goals this season.

Now, Hughsey, you might be correct that the number of goals scored is not a concern, but I think the manner of their being scored IS a concern.

2 own goals-the Blackpool one was amazing and remended me a little of the Aston Villa own goal when we were last relegated-it came out of nowhere and I'd bet against ever seeing one like that in the top division.

2 glaring goalkeeper errors, that once again, you could never count on happening again never mind 2 in approx 5 matches.

1 goal that the powers that be at Ewood must have judged was a foul as they did not replay it on the day.

We have also scored just 1 goal in the last 3 matches-will we score on Saturday?

[JMillZz]

I checked the stats and have seen we have scored 8 league goals this season.

Now, Hughsey, you might be correct that the number of goals scored is not a concern, but I think the manner of their being scored IS a concern.

2 own goals-the Blackpool one was amazing and remended me a little of the Aston Villa own goal when we were last relegated-it came out of nowhere and I'd bet against ever seeing one like that in the top division.

2 glaring goalkeeper errors, that once again, you could never count on happening again never mind 2 in approx 5 matches.

1 goal that the powers that be at Ewood must have judged was a foul as they did not replay it on the day.

We have also scored just 1 goal in the last 3 matches-will we score on Saturday?

Place your bets people...

[John]

There is always room for improvement for all teams, however it is getting quite tiresome the complete over reaction to defeats, which usually turn out to be more of a personal attack on the manager.

At the end of the day the quality of our playing squad is very average in my view, and as we all know for a Premier League club, weve have had no/little investment in the playing staff for a number of years.

Many of those who dislike Sam conveniently show no appreciation for the fantastic job he has done during his time here saving us from relegation, then finishing 10th last season which was an excellent achievement.

You could even suggest finishing 10th last season assisted in prompting more interest in the club in relation to the continuous takeover talks.

Anyway, the league is generally very tight but I don't think we should be too worried yet - there were times last season when things looked precarious too.

[92er]

There is always room for improvement for all teams, however it is getting quite tiresome the complete over reaction to defeats, which usually turn out to be more of a personal attack on the manager.

Of course it is tiresome-and it is noticeable there is a lot of ill feeling towards the manager by posters during matches, especially when things are going wrong.

However, I also think it is reasonable to be allowed to question his decisions. And I think a number of posters who often make reasonable points are raising valid points.

[John]

However, I also think it is reasonable to be allowed to question his decisions. And I think a number of posters who often make reasonable points are raising valid points.

Of course, no one is perfect obviously.

However it really does go OTT sometimes on here, it's not football fans being fickle, for some it's a personal hatred issue. There also appears to be a lack of understanding that when you have almost no money to spend, it does provide limitations and make it a fairly difficult job!

I don't agree with everything he does but Sam has a proven track record which some people forget all too easily/quickly.

Questioning his position under the current ownership is madness IMO, we probably could not afford to sack him for a start....