[Archived] Sam Allardyce

[chaddyrovers]

We won. I went home happy. I'd definitely take that every week. Victory is everything in my book. I can't understand anyone going home unhappy after seeing their side win. I get no pleasure from seeing us lose, no matter what the performance.

I agree with that. I wanted to win. If we lose 4-3, I don't get any pleaseure from that.

[Smithy]

It will be interesting to see how we cover Bale on saturday...He will beat Salgado for pace all day...

I can see him playing the same formation as Newcastle. The extra man will give us cover if he comes inside and if he toes the line we have an extra CB.

He will beat anybody for pace all day, as a caoch and manager, you deal with it, you push your wide midfielder up on him and Salgado come round the back, you 'two him' dont let him come inside, show him the line where possible, then you make sure the Central defenders or Robbo deal with the cross if he gets one in.

Imagine you were in a playground and you were constantly bullied, I could think of no better person than Sam to be on your side, when the chips are down, the bugger always fights back, thats a man, manager and team player!!

If I was being bullied I'd want this man:

[gumboots]

I can see him playing the same formation as Newcastle. The extra man will give us cover if he comes inside and if he toes the line we have an extra CB.

If I was being bullied I'd want this man:

That is just so gross there aren't words for it. Give me the pre Charles Atlas guy any day.

[BuckyRover]

I hope Sam doesn't see that picture.

He will be signed as our target man

[67splitscreen]

You would have thought he could have put that extra bit of work in for a six pack.

[Gav]

We won. I went home happy. I'd definitely take that every week. Victory is everything in my book. I can't understand anyone going home unhappy after seeing their side win. I get no pleasure from seeing us lose, no matter what the performance.

You’re not going to get that every week though are you?

So when we do get beat, which is quite often these days, you want to see us play so decent football or at least “Have a go”, not hammer long balls down the channels with little or no hope of Kalinic getting on the end of things.

We lost against Chelsea, but most Rovers fans would have been happy with the display.

[RoversSG]

He tried to boot a bottle of Lucozade at Sam Allardyce but it sliced of his shin, went sideways and rolled slowly onto the cinder track.

Sounds like his normal aim to me then

[waggy]

We won. I went home happy. I'd definitely take that every week. Victory is everything in my book. I can't understand anyone going home unhappy after seeing their side win. I get no pleasure from seeing us lose, no matter what the performance.

i'm knocking on 50 and i want to be entertianed,results are important but surely how points are gained is also important.

[Gav]

i'm knocking on 50

You're older than that

[deryck guyler's spoon]

i'm knocking on 50 and i want to be entertianed,results are important but surely how points are gained is also important.

Impossible on our budget. What's your age got to do with it?

[47er]

Impossible on our budget. What's your age got to do with it?

You can tell he's matured though!

[Gav]

Can anyone tell me why our illustrious leader decided not to start with an in form Jason Roberts?

I’m not overly bothered by the fact we lost 4-2, it should have been 6, but I just can’t understand why Allardyce saw fit to put Roberts on the bench again.

[LeChuck]

I was surprised as well, but to be fair Kalinic was better than Roberts.

[Gav]

I was surprised as well, but to be fair Kalinic was better than Roberts.

Yes you're right he was, but you need to start with in form players and Kalinic should have been benched. I get the feeling Allardyce is letting personal feelings get in the way of dropping his golden boy, for a player he’s publically wrote off.

I’m not Roberts fan, but still he should be starting and it must be deflating not to see your name of the team sheet after scoring in your last two games.

[LeChuck]

Historically Roberts has always done very well as a sub, then looked absolutely awful when he's had a run as a starter. It's been the patten of his Rovers career, a constant cycle of 'good bench performance(s) > regular starter > crap performances > dropped'.

I'm quite happy with Kalinic tiring defenders out for 45/60 minutes then bringing on a fresh Roberts.

[BRFC1995]

Historically Roberts has always done very well as a sub, then looked absolutely awful when he's had a run as a starter. It's been the patten of his Rovers career, a constant cycle of 'good bench performance(s) > regular starter > crap performances > dropped'.

I'm quite happy with Kalinic tiring defenders out for 45/60 minutes then bringing on a fresh Roberts.

er........rather see a striker look threatening and heaven forbid score now and then, sod just tiring defenders out??????

Huge buyers remorse with Kalinic.........Give him a long stint in reserves, id be fairly amazed if he cut the mustard there.

Absolute madness that roberts did'nt start.

[LeChuck]

Did you see any of the game today? Kalinic did threaten with a marvellous piece of skill, and linked up with the midfield well.

At Kalinic's age, Jason Roberts was playing for Bristol Rovers. Kalinic is already a PL player and an international.

From that starting point Roberts progressed into a decent PL player, if Kalinic can show the same improvement in his early twenties then he'll far exceed Roberts' ability.

Give the lad a break FFS, the potential in him is bloody obvious.

[DE.]

Historically Roberts has always done very well as a sub, then looked absolutely awful when he's had a run as a starter. It's been the patten of his Rovers career, a constant cycle of 'good bench performance(s) > regular starter > crap performances > dropped'.

I'm quite happy with Kalinic tiring defenders out for 45/60 minutes then bringing on a fresh Roberts.

Agreed - if history tells us anything it is that Roberts is a completely ineffective starter.

[Gav]

Agreed - if history tells us anything it is that Roberts is a completely ineffective starter.

Even though he's scored 2 in 2 and it should have been 3 in 3 bar the Chelsea miss?

[LeChuck]

Even though he's scored 2 in 2 and it should have been 3 in 3 bar the Chelsea miss?

That doesn't make any sense. Those stats come from his appearances as a substitute, how does it counter what DE said?

[gumboots]

Even though he's scored 2 in 2 and it should have been 3 in 3 bar the Chelsea miss?

He didn't start those games

[Gav]

Makes no difference whatsoever if he started the games or not, he's scored 2 goals in 2 games and should have started today instead of Kalinic as far as I’m concerned.

History doesn't matter, if he’s scoring goals he should start.

Irrelevant anyway, Allardyce decided otherwise.

[Hughesy]

Why change the team that started the last win??

Roberts as sub has worked well in the past...not as a starting 11 player.

[DE.]

Makes no difference whatsoever if he started the games or not, he's scored 2 goals in 2 games and should have started today instead of Kalinic as far as I’m concerned.

History doesn't matter, if he’s scoring goals he should start.

Irrelevant anyway, Allardyce decided otherwise.

A fair enough viewpoint, but probably would have been better made without quoting my post, because the stat you posted without elaboration just backed up what I said despite you disagreeing with me

Also, I disagree that history is irrelevant. Roberts has always been best for us as a super sub - as highlighted by his recent form coming off the bench - and has always struggled to maintain his form when given the opportunity to start. I don't think it's illogical for Allardyce to want to use him in the sub role again, and actually thought Kalinic had a good game before he was subbed. Our issues today were defensively, rather than any decisions made about our strikers.

[cn174]

Why change the team that started the last win??

Roberts as sub has worked well in the past...not as a starting 11 player.

because we're not playing the same team again! The general sentiment is fine, but in this case we all knew that it wouldn't probably work. I know you were talking about Roberts, but we all knew that Salgado would get absolutely battered by Bale, so we shouldn't just leave him there because he did ok vs Newcastle.