[Archived] Sam Allardyce

[tony gale's mic]

But that doesn't matter now, does it? Since obviously everything a person stands for and does change into something positive if it works in your direction. You would probably kiss Owen Coyle's, Robbie Blake's and all of Burnley's away supports shoes with a slight change of circumstances.

To answer your earlier question; I am not the Blackburn Rovers board of directors, I am not the Blackburn Rovers scouting network and I am not Blackburn Rovers contacts throughout the footballing world. I do not know what other managers was unemployed and interested to go to Blackburn at the time of Ince's sacking. If it would interest anyone (drog?) I can give a list of names of realistic choices who I would rather see coaching Blackburn than Sam Allardyce.

To answer the question of my support of Sam Allardyce; No, it doesn't exist. I do support Blackburn Rovers Football Club tough, which is bigger than any player, chairman or manager (especially Sam Allardyce). If Allardyce change his ways and leads us forward I will be most happy to change my mind, but not until then.

Give the names.

Bear in mind I was dead against Sam in the summer, and while I think I shouldn't have been so opposed to him, if I could turn back the clock to summer I'd still choose the likes of Laudrup and ten Cate in a heartbeat over him.

However, once Ince started screwing things up royally it became very apparent there was only one man for the job. Even when Mancini was reportedly interested I'm still happy we picked Sam. Those names you want to come out with may very well be more talented managers than him, but at that point we needed a safe pair of hands who was experienced in the league, experienced at relegation battles and experienced at working with limited resources. And so far he's done what we wanted. Yesterday was an aberration but overall we have looked leagues better under Sam than under Ince.

[LeChuck]

So even if McCLaren had some tactics knocking around in his head (which I doubt) he couldn't make any use of them because his personality lends well to insomniacs but not hapless footballers who need a good figurative head-bludgeoning to get them psyched for a match.

So that explains why Arsene Wenger is so good.

[Commondore]

For your pleasure mr Drog.

Chris Coleman

Steve Coppell

Alan Curbishley

Didier Deschamps

Gerard Houllier

Roberto Mancini

Roberto Martinez

Henk Ten Cate

Fatih Terim

John Toshack

[LeChuck]

Coleman? Curbishley? Toshack?

I can't believe you think Deschamps, Houllier, Mancini or Terim would come when we have absolutely no money.

Ten Cate isn't proven as a manger at all, and Coppell hardly proved he's the man to keep a relatively-talented team in the Premiership last season did he?

Martinez is the only one on that list that I realistically would have liked, but we couldn't afford to appoint another unproven manager after the mess Ince left us in.

[greco]

Give the names.

Bear in mind I was dead against Sam in the summer, and while I think I shouldn't have been so opposed to him, if I could turn back the clock to summer I'd still choose the likes of Laudrup and ten Cate in a heartbeat over him.

However, once Ince started screwing things up royally it became very apparent there was only one man for the job. Even when Mancini was reportedly interested I'm still happy we picked Sam. Those names you want to come out with may very well be more talented managers than him, but at that point we needed a safe pair of hands who was experienced in the league, experienced at relegation battles and experienced at working with limited resources. And so far he's done what we wanted. Yesterday was an aberration but overall we have looked leagues better under Sam than under Ince.

well put mate.

For your pleasure mr Drog.

Chris Coleman

Steve Coppell

Alan Curbishley

Didier Deschamps

Gerard Houllier

Roberto Mancini

Roberto Martinez

Henk Ten Cate

Fatih Terim

John Toshack

given our situation, with ince messing everything up, no money available, could you please elaborate on your choices..

what makes you think, that those guys could have done better then sam.?

[Commondore]

well put mate.

given our situation, with ince messing everything up, no money available, could you please elaborate on your choices..

what makes you think, that those guys could have done better then sam.?

They are all a lot more visionary than Allardyce, their teams play with ideas on how to win and are managed to develop and improve in the future. As for the financial situation, I'm sure Allardyce isn't working for free either. Isn't this just what the Walker trust fund is for, to add to Rovers finances when we absolutely need the money?

If you read my first post on this issue I state that I believe the talk of having someone who has "dealt with relegation battles before" is not accurate at all, and that a manager who had not went the Allardyce way of starting to hoof the ball at every possible oppurtunity would have had just as much success (if not more) than Sam Allardyce.

[waggy]

lardarse team selection on saturday was woeful,ince got slated for his selections but zurab in midfield

[LeChuck]

They are all a lot more visionary than Allardyce, their teams play with ideas on how to win and are managed to develop and improve in the future.

What absolute ######! Just because you don't like the style of football doesn't mean he isn't 'visionary'. You obviously have virtually zero knowledge of what he did at Bolton (and I don't just mean league placings) to say that.

[broadsword]

Toshack? God help us.

How about Big Jackie Charlton?

[gumboots]

lardarse team selection on saturday was woeful,ince got slated for his selections but zurab in midfield

You can only select from what's available. I am no allardyce fan but to have a go at him for his selection on saturday is wrong. He had players out with injury and had to put together a team he thought might hold arsenal at least for the first part of the game and then review what he could do later. He was then handicapped in what he wanted to do by injuries during the game to 2 key players in Givet and Warnock.

[waggy]

You can only select from what's available. I am no allardyce fan but to have a go at him for his selection on saturday is wrong. He had players out with injury and had to put together a team he thought might hold arsenal at least for the first part of the game and then review what he could do later. He was then handicapped in what he wanted to do by injuries during the game to 2 key players in Givet and Warnock.

dunn was on the bench,as was tugay and benni mac.worst off all was his defence of vermin reckoning it was not a red card offence

[gumboots]

dunn was on the bench,as was tugay and benni mac.worst off all was his defence of vermin reckoning it was not a red card offence

Tugay can't last a whole game and we need him much more for need to win games like this weekend and next rather than for one we were almost certainly going to lose. Dunn is fragile and is better used in small doses so that we can get some benefit from him and McCarthy is one i don't understand but then if he goes with one up front it's not going to be him, is it? as i said, I'm no allardyce fan and like you i think diouf should have been sent off. I also think that Pedersen should have been booked for that ridiculous dive. However, just to criticise everything that goes on at ewood at the moment is not helpful. we were poor in the bits i saw - I chose not to watch the 50 mins. Arsenal have been creating chance after chance over the last few weesk and it was obvious they were going to thump someone sometime soon. Unfortunately it was us.

[gazsimm]

lardarse team selection on saturday was woeful,ince got slated for his selections but zurab in midfield

It did not work with Zurab in midfield i agree, but you can not call sam at all for trying something new. If Ince was still in charge we would be were west brom are now. Sam has done wonders to transform the club round and with him in charge we will have every chance of seeing Rovers in the premiership again come next season

[greco]

They are all a lot more visionary than Allardyce, their teams play with ideas on how to win and are managed to develop and improve in the future. As for the financial situation, I'm sure Allardyce isn't working for free either. Isn't this just what the Walker trust fund is for, to add to Rovers finances when we absolutely need the money?

If you read my first post on this issue I state that I believe the talk of having someone who has "dealt with relegation battles before" is not accurate at all, and that a manager who had not went the Allardyce way of starting to hoof the ball at every possible oppurtunity would have had just as much success (if not more) than Sam Allardyce.

laughable.. i thought managers, in general plays to win, and tries to improve their team.

as i imagined, your reply wouldnt and didnt make much sense. But thanks for trying

[waggy]

, but you can not call sam at all for trying something new.

right we have changed the messageboard rules,poor ince was slaughtered from week one,lardarse makes a complete balls up and its ok

[gazsimm]

dunn was on the bench,as was tugay and benni mac.worst off all was his defence of vermin reckoning it was not a red card offence

I am sure sam was trying to rest Dunn for the upcoming more winnable games and as for Tugay he played against Fulham in midweek didn't he? Sadly he cannot play two games on a trot for us anymore.

Dioufy's tackle was a bad one, but anyone can make a bad tackle, just because it was him, people are trying to make the most of it (grow up). If you did not know as well Diouf has been one of our best players at the club since the end of the transfer window, which has helped us move up out of the relegation zone, but i somehow doubt you would know this if you dont go to the games anymore!!!

[greco]

right we have changed the messageboard rules,poor ince was slaughtered from week one,lardarse makes a complete balls up and its ok

does it hurt your feelings.?

[gazsimm]

right we have changed the messageboard rules,poor ince was slaughtered from week one,lardarse makes a complete balls up and its ok

one game waggy against arsenal for god sake grow up

[waggy]

does it hurt your feelings.?

not at all,i just love it when lardarse coocks up,because the guys football is total crap

[gazsimm]

not at all,i just love it when lardarse coocks up,because the guys football is total crap

so are u saying you will be happy if rovers go down this year then waggy, because you don't like sam!!!!

[Sparky Marky]

not at all,i just love it when lardarse coocks up,because the guys football is total crap

Your posts are total crap. Listen mate, Big Sam is about the best we can hope for....have you any better ideas of who should manage us...? In my opinion BS has done wonders to raise the profile of Rovers....he's very media friendly, seems to command respect from media and fellow pro alike...when Ince was in charge he alienated the press, his players and to a point, the fans....

Get a grip man.

[greco]

not at all,i just love it when lardarse coocks up,because the guys football is total crap

you sound like someone in pain..

was ince´s better.?

[waggy]

so are u saying you will be happy if rovers go down this year then waggy, because you don't like sam!!!!

for the upteenth time i do not like lardarse,but i do not want the rovers to go down,lardarse has a very special way off playing football,which i will never watch live,we could do sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than him

[gazsimm]

for the upteenth time i do not like lardarse,but i do not want the rovers to go down,lardarse has a very special way off playing football,which i will never watch live,we could do sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than him

like who???, Ince left us in a mess and we were looking like favourites to go down. Big Sam was and still his the only guy who could save us from relegation. I hope you don't see us live forever you numpty!!!

[waggy]

like who???, Ince left us in a mess and we were looking like favourites to go down. Big Sam was and still his the only guy who could save us from relegation. I hope you don't see us live forever you numpty!!!

numpty sticks and stones