[Archived] Sam Allardyce

[1864roverite]

Waggy

Ince wasnt qualified or experienced to manage our team SAM IS.

Ince was and is still a clown SAM ISNT.

Ince had no clout in the dressing room SAM HAS.

Ince had a poor return record whereas SAM has the opposite.

Now then, unless you can come with a credible reason to justify your negative slant on BRFC shut the truck up and come and join us

[allrovertheworld]

Just so I am clear waggy as I only come on here every now and then, I can understand you dont like Sam, I didn't warm to him when at Bolton but he is our manager and I am prepared to wait until next year to see where he takes us, I understand needs must. However, were you and are you still an Ince fan? Do you think he was good for Rovers and a quality manager?

[thenodrog]

allrovertheworld ........................ I hope that you are not holding your breath till you get a reply!

[JAL]

seem to remenber ince getting slated for playing square pegs in round holes,andrews at right back,samba up front,lets a centre forward go on loan and we need him,and refuses to sell a cripple for £20million plus,lardarse is a genius

Ince left Big Sam with a squad that was and is primarily square pegs in round holes because Ince blew the budget Waggy.

Winning football versus Inces muddled puddled plotters.

Wheres Ince hiding nowadays the shameless Cockney.

[Billy Castell]

seem to remenber ince getting slated for playing square pegs in round holes,andrews at right back,samba up front,lets a centre forward go on loan and we need him,and refuses to sell a cripple for £20million plus,lardarse is a genius

You're right. We should replace him with that plucky chap who unfairly lost his job coaching a team of Miarachi gituarists and drug barons after losing 3-1 to the mighty Honduras. He seems a man who you can trust when he gives you his word.

[adopted scouser]

BFS? Talksport? Jeremy Kyle? Never expected to see those words together! Did Jeremy Kyle slag him off for being unemployed for a year, or put him through a lie detector test?

I also wonder if BFS was in a tracksuit and baseball cap, and wore sovereign rings.

So how often do you watch it then ?

[Billy Castell]

Only when I'm bored and need to watch unintentional comedy AS! Try it if you're feeling down, as you can say to yourself 'at least I'm not a chavvy bag of ___ like them.' It is very amusing seeingpeople line up to have Mr. Kyle shouting at them and calling them scum. You'll see why the idea of Jeremy Kyle hosting a sport related show is an odd concept.

Oh, and before you start having a go, I finish work at 3 o'clock so I'm not a student, unemployed, idle housewife etc.

[gazsimm]

with Big Sam in charge, Rovers should stay up. He has done a great job since he has come to the club. It was just a shame we did not pick him in the summer and we choosed that numptie Ince instead.

The players Sam has bought in have made an hell of a difference to the team and i think if rovers stay up and sam is given a bit of money to spend on players i think next season we will be a top 10 team without a doubt.

[Napoleon]

I cannot believe how much stock people are putting in Waggy's ridiculous posts. I have always found his contributions to be bizarre, but anybody who continues to waffle on about Allardyce like this even though it's clear to everyone else he's being proved more wrong with each passing week is pretty laughable. Anyone who can not see the danger the club is in if relegation happens, and the major improvement since Sam came in, is a fool and not a Rovers fan.

[dave birch]

I wouldn't doubt waggy's support of the Rovers,

I wouldn't doubt Gumboot's support of the Rovers.

I wouldn't doubt Theno's support of the Rovers....

but all, at some time or other, over the past twelve months have stated they would not go to Ewood under certain (and if my memory serves me) varying conditions.

So, napoleon, who are you to say, who is a fan or not a fan. Is it when they don't fit into your criteria?

[roversmum]

Radio Lancashire now playing excerpts "An Audience With Big Sam" you can listen to it online

[John]

Radio Lancashire now playing excerpts "An Audience With Big Sam" you can listen to it online

Could not find where it is located...??

[Commondore]

Nope not at all Capt. As usual time has proven me right and the others who criticised my stance between Mid June and Dec wrong. To date 0.76 points per match for Ince and exactly double that at 1.5 points per match for SA is graphic testament to my judgement.

We are not safe by a long chalk but at least now the issue is in our own hands......... or more accurately those of the medical staff.

Wow, not shy of blowing your own horn there! I think most of us who are critic of Sam Allardyce does not believe that firing Ince was wrong, but rather that the hiring of Allardyce was and that the results he has achieved could have been achieved by lots of other managers while still playing a more positive kind of football. I accept that the kind of football we employ now is one way of achieving a point here and there to help Rovers stay above the relegation zone, but does anyone seriously think that Allardyce will change his style of play for next season? More likely will he just wave around a bunch of prozone stats to distract certain supporters while we crawl around the 15th spot...

[thenodrog]

Wow, not shy of blowing your own horn there! I think most of us who are critic of Sam Allardyce does not believe that firing Ince was wrong, but rather that the hiring of Allardyce was and that the results he has achieved could have been achieved by lots of other managers while still playing a more positive kind of football. I accept that the kind of football we employ now is one way of achieving a point here and there to help Rovers stay above the relegation zone, but does anyone seriously think that Allardyce will change his style of play for next season? More likely will he just wave around a bunch of prozone stats to distract certain supporters while we crawl around the 15th spot...

From Maudlin Street indeed.

Tell you what commondore join waggy and don't go to Ewood anymore. Your thinking simply does not stack up against the statistics of the two managers. If you want someone to run the club off buttons in the next couple of years Allardyce is that man.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

In todays present climate, then if you are a club in Rovers' financial and footballing position there is no better effective manager than Big Sam in keeping you in the Premiership and maximising limited resources. Theno and crew are right.

Sad to say that does not bring Nice to watch Football. Waggy and crew are right.

Football is a business so it is imperative that Rovers remain where the money is and as such Big Sam is the right man for the job. The style of football is not much different than that served up by Hughes previously and there was little complaint before.

If Sam can bring a skilfull and pacy forward to run at defenders, as Hughes did with Bellamy and Sam did with Anelka, the limited, effective football would take on a different complexion. Remember how Rovers' fans were delighted with the football played when Bellamy was here but basically we had Mr. Kuqi as a battering ram alongside Bellamy to lump the ball to.

[gillibrand]

I do not think that the fancy continental managers who's names were discussed earlier in the season would achieve anything with the amount of money available at the Rovers, Sam has contacts in the football leagues and has a reputation that can influence players to come and play for us, we should think ourselves lucky we got him after the ridiculous Ince debacle!

[Hughesy]

I too cant believe that people would rather of had some big name fancy nancy boy from the continent, rather than a manager who has proved in this league that he can get a club of our size (possibly slightly smaller and in a far worse situation when he started) to around the 6th place level of the premier league.

Manchini was only interested in an english club aslong as he could have a release clause in his contract for any of the big Italian clubs coming after him. He also has no prem experience.

Ten bob cate has never previously done well as a manager either. He is also known to be hot-headed and therefore would of cracked under pressure.

If anyone honestly believes that another manager could have come in and done the same/ or better than Big Sam then I think you are deluded and Biased against big Sam.

[Eddie]

Ten bob cate has never previously done well as a manager either. He is also known to be hot-headed and therefore would of cracked under pressure.

Maybe you should change that to could or might have. He also might have done well, just like he has in the job he actually took.

[gillibrand]

I think the word is probably!

[broadsword]

Ten bob cate has never previously done well as a manager either. He is also known to be hot-headed and therefore would of cracked under pressure.

yes, of course.

Thanks for that, Hughesy. What would we do without your encyclopedic knowledge of European football and astute psychological profiling?

[CAPT KAYOS]

If anyone honestly believes that another manager could have come in and done the same/ or better than Big Sam then I think you are deluded and Biased against big Sam.

I don't and neither do I want a 'fancy nancy boy from the continent' - hence why I backed the appointment of Ince - in hindsight proven to be the wrong move ( and the premonition of Theno ) , however as much as I see that Sam is the right man to keep us up - I don't like the excuses / paper over cracks percentage square pegs comments ... whoops set up he is going with and fear that it could become the norm rather than the must do for this season.

Yes , he has to be given respect (and has succesful experience|) for what he has done thus far, but lets not get over excited at the prospect until we see what's in store next season if we do actually stay up.

There is an awful amount of change required and take on of new blood needed for next season -regardless of staying up or relegation.

[gazsimm]

I don't and neither do I want a 'fancy nancy boy from the continent' - hence why I backed the appointment of Ince - in hindsight proven to be the wrong move ( and the preminission of Theno ) , however as much as I see that Sam is the right man to keep us up - I don't like the excuses / paper over cracks percentage square pegs comments ... whoops set up he is going with and fear that it could become the norm rather than the must do for this season.

Yes , he has to be given respect (and has succesful experience|) for what he has done thus far, but lets not get over excited at the prospect until we see what's in store next season if we do actually stay up.

There is an awful amount of change required and take on of new blood needed for next season -regardless of staying up or relegation.

he needs money to spend in the summer if we are going to improve, but i doubt he will be given the right amonut he wants!!

[CAPT KAYOS]

he needs money to spend in the summer if we are going to improve, but i doubt he will be given the right amonut he wants!!

Agree gazsimm and that's the point I am getting at with regard to new blood desperately needed - no change and it can only get worse and the percentage football of trying to nick a point /goal will not continue to work.

[BiggusLaddus]

Agree gazsimm and that's the point I am getting at with regard to new blood desperately needed - no change and it can only get worse and the percentage football of trying to nick a point /goal will not continue to work.

I think, deep down, most of us expect our summer transfers to be more of a facelift for the current squad than the major surgury it really needs. Mostly this will be because of funding, but also how much effort can Sam be making to scout other players when we still don't know what division we will be playing in next season?

[Hughesy]

Maybe you should change that to could or might have. He also might have done well, just like he has in the job he actually took.

Doing a good job where???

Hardly the premier league is it!