[Archived] Sam Allardyce

[thenodrog]

I've read a few comments from people excusing Allardyce's selection for this game.

Let me tell you, there is no excuse.

Whatever side we put out, we may have lost, heavily.

BUT to play an unconvincing left winger on the right wing, when an out-of-position right back is behind him and the opposition have Riera on the left wing is stupidity that leaves me speechless. Also, to pick Mokoena is an insult to football. I cannot believe that Vogel could do worse.

We have a depleted squad but this was no excuse. Simpson (if available) should have been at right back. Someone right-footed should have been on the right wing.

By your own admission you didn't see the match so would you please refrain from comment,

[Mozzer]

we have lost 4 games since sam allardyce has been in charge-other then yesterday we actually look like a team rather then the shambles we where producing under paul ince...we lose heavily and people are already against the manager..get a bloody grip..if sam allardyce was in charge of us at the beginning of the season we wouldnt even be in this sort of mess-hes doing a good job-especially with most our key players out, and the fact we have no decent midfield..

im just glad none of you have a say in who to appoint..

sam allardyce all the way !!!!!

[thenodrog]

If we were going to set out a team to lose today, we should have at least given a couple of the academy/reserve strikers a chance up front, rather than lumping Samba up there. Similarly, I would have rather seen Villanueva out there ahead of Mokoena and someone other than Treacy on the wing.

This game was always a write-off, and Sam's gambles will probably pay off.... but if we did go down on goal difference, serious questions would have to be posed about both this and the Arsenal game.

1. Isn't there a rule about playing weakened teams?

2. And how many goals would a team full of academy players leaked?

3. Your last sentence invalidates your first paragraph.

I WANT STRIKERS WHO ARE STRIKERS , I DONT WANT MIDFIELDERS AT FULL BACK,I WANT HUNGER TO WIN ,I WANT PASSION ,EFFORT AND I DONT EXPECT A LOSING MENTALITY IN ANY GAME WE PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only have 1 fit striker and he's no good in a 4-5-1. Our two best full backs are injured. Yet again we are matched with Lpool on Hillsborough day and so we have to let em win.

Just a point but does Hillsborough remembrance day not mean that Lpool will not kick off until 5.30?

[DE.]

1. Isn't there a rule about playing weakened teams?

2. And how many goals would a team full of academy players leaked?

3. Your last sentence invalidates your first paragraph.

As usual you manage to twist a quote to suit your own purpose.

Where did I say "team full of academy players"? Read it again, it says a COUPLE of players up front. Since our striking options are so decimated, why not? It beats putting Samba up there. And no, my last sentence does not invalidate my first paragraph

[Exiled in Toronto]

A poster in the LT a couple of weeks ago hit the nail on the head when he said Ince had conjured up the only circumstances imaginable where Allardyce would seem like a good idea.

I never liked the man when he played for Bolton because he was beyond dirty, he was nasty and not very good anyway. I never rated him when we battled for promotion under Souness and trounced his safety first side 4-1 at the Breezeblock, overtaking them on the run-in. I never liked him or Bolton when they were finishing 8th/7th/6th by bending every rule imaginable; I never wished we had Diouff, Nolan or Davies.

Now, to quote Roy Keane, because somehow he has become the manager of my club, I am expected to forget all that because he gets results. He doesn't get results by playing good football, he doesn't even go for results in 20% of the games, but he does get results. And right now, results are more important than anything because, apparently, if we did go down, despite having had a third of a billion quid over the Walker/Sky years, getting parachute payments, and being the best run club around, we would instantly be much worse than Burnley and Preston and get relegated the next year as well.

I like the fact he has got some results, although the only two I would have not expected from a reasonably competent and experienced manager were Spuds at home and Fulham away, in both of which we were terrible in the first half playing the great man's game plan and should have been buried at half time. But we got the results, and that's what matters.

I dislike the man because I think he is a 100% cynical cheater. He was a cynical fouler, he bends the rules and, worst of all, he is cynical towards the fans. He talks up games and then puts out teams to lose. Fans went to Coventry, Arsenal and Liverpool on the back of positive messages and they were cheated out of their hard-earned money. And he refers to my club as 'them'

The only thing to like is results, which is why, after abject performances, most thinking fans on here cut him no slack. And anyone thinking this season is a one-off is deluded; leopards don't change their spots. Perhaps relegation would kill us, but so will losing our pride and purpose. It says 'Arte et Labore' Sam.

Sorry for the AESF rant.

[Bobby G]

I cant believe this over the top reaction.

We were rubbish yesterday. But people forget we were just as bad against Arsenal at home, and a number of games under Ince.

This season is about results. Next season, after a proper summer, we can begin to ask for more.

Performances like yesterday lie solely at the responsibility of the manager, but he has only lost to the top 5 teams in our PL games, so that should count for something.

[Parsonblue]

Sam is exactly the type of manager we need. We need to gain every advantage we can and if that means targetting games then so be it. If this club is relegated there is no way back. Like it or not, Sam's approach is the best way of keeping this club in the Premier League. I feel sure that he will ship a number of players out in the summer and bring in some who are more in tune with his approach. He made some decent signings at Bolton and kept Premiership status with a restricted budget. At the moment, with the way of the finances at Ewood Park that is the best we can hope for.

I will, hopefully, have my home and away season tickets next year and continue to support the club. I will be only too happy to watch Sam's style of football if it keeps us in the Premier League. We don't have the finances to be picky about we play our football. If you don't like the style of football the solution is simple - don't go to matches. West Brom's manager has maintained that he would continue to play attractive football all season. They are now bottom of the League, destined for relegation and he might well be sacked. I suspect that WBA fans would be only to happy to swap places with us if our style of football maintains Premier League status. Sadly, like it not, modern football is all about results. The ends justify the means in the Premier League. If we remain a Premier League club in the next few years then Sam will be deemed a success.

[67splitscreen]

I hope the member who posted this another board will not mind me dropping it in here.

This may if true tell us the reason for the poor performance lately (spuds & L/Pool)

"I was talking to a club employee last night and he was saying the players are not happy . They are sick of playing the long ball game and many think Sam is going too far with it . Warnock particularly is pizzed off . Before the game yesterday there was a lot of unrest because of the midfield that he picked , nobody in there that can run (no legs) . They weren`t wrong were they .

Regardless of where we end up , its going to be a very busy summer ."

Now it may well be all untrue but then again it might not. None can argue that performances for a team battling for survival are well under par.

[RovertheHill]

I hope the member who posted this another board will not mind me dropping it in here.

This may if true tell us the reason for the poor performance lately (spuds & L/Pool)

"I was talking to a club employee last night and he was saying the players are not happy . They are sick of playing the long ball game and many think Sam is going too far with it . Warnock particularly is pizzed off . Before the game yesterday there was a lot of unrest because of the midfield that he picked , nobody in there that can run (no legs) . They weren`t wrong were they .

Regardless of where we end up , its going to be a very busy summer ."

Now it may well be all untrue but then again it might not. None can argue that performances for a team battling for survival are well under par.

The players were unhappy with Ince too by all accounts. It's about time the players started looking at themselves as much as the manager and tactics. There are some of them happy to take home many thousands (and some many tens of thousands) in wages each week who seemingly lack basic skills. As for nobody in the midfield who can run, then with the exception of Tugay (who actually ran more than most) the rest should be ashamed of themselves - especially Warnock. If it is true it's pathetic

[John]

Sam is exactly the type of manager we need. We need to gain every advantage we can and if that means targetting games then so be it. If this club is relegated there is no way back. Like it or not, Sam's approach is the best way of keeping this club in the Premier League. I feel sure that he will ship a number of players out in the summer and bring in some who are more in tune with his approach. He made some decent signings at Bolton and kept Premiership status with a restricted budget. At the moment, with the way of the finances at Ewood Park that is the best we can hope for.

I will, hopefully, have my home and away season tickets next year and continue to support the club. I will be only too happy to watch Sam's style of football if it keeps us in the Premier League. We don't have the finances to be picky about we play our football. If you don't like the style of football the solution is simple - don't go to matches. West Brom's manager has maintained that he would continue to play attractive football all season. They are now bottom of the League, destined for relegation and he might well be sacked. I suspect that WBA fans would be only to happy to swap places with us if our style of football maintains Premier League status. Sadly, like it not, modern football is all about results. The ends justify the means in the Premier League. If we remain a Premier League club in the next few years then Sam will be deemed a success.

Can we pin this post please. Completely agree.

[imy9]

The only teams that play attractive football and win are in the top 5, the rest who try (West Brom) are bottom of the league.

IF anyone doubts what Big Sam can and will do for Rovers just listen to his interview with the 'fans', next year when he creates HIS team (who are at the level of fitness that he expects), gets rid of players he does not want and implements his will on the side we will be impressed of that I am sure.

Next year is the time to reassess the style of play, if there is an issue with players hunger and fight, they really need to look at themselves, Big Sam praised two players yesterday and was scathing about the rest, nice to see the honesty. Finally Big Sam has not (as far as I am aware been convicted of any crime, he has played within the rules and beaten the top sides, to continually insinuate that he is some kind of criminal is pretty crass IMO.

[rovermagic]

I was disappointed like everyone by Liverpool.

I think Sam was trying to enhance his own

rep by playing a side which could show

How desperately short we are on quality.

And that he, Sam the man, can keep

Us up anyway. There is some truth to

this and I don't fully blame him. The

danger is a collapse in morale. But it is

sending a message out for the Board

to get their fingers out.

[dring1]

anyone who thinks sam should be sacked needs there heads testing. alright i was very annoyed yesterday with the team he put out having spent £38 on a ticket and the team just rolled over and died for the scousers. if we still had ince we were as good as down and i was at the wigan game which i was already accepting relegation at that point. we should now be midtable at least with sam in charge with the points dropped againts teams like bolton and man city at home. he has come in and given us a fighting chance. i fully expect us to win our home games and stay up. maybe the odd one away. i think we will just scrape it and move on to the summer were quite a few players will hopefully be shown the door with quite a few new ones coming in with free transfers ect.

[thenodrog]

Allardyce has injured players, out of sorts players and players who say they want away. He's in a fix and must manage us to avoid relegation with a softly softly approach, and without losing his temper, bruising ego's and ending up with even less options within his squad. He is metaphorically walking on eggshells. I trust that at the end of the season and there has been a successful resolve to the relegation threat that ego's will get bruised big time and plenty of egg shells trampled. I bet he can hardly wait.

[John]

'I'm angry with the players, because I expected more,' said manager Sam Allardyce. 'When your players don't implement the game plan, or even try to, you are bound to be angry. 'We've got Stoke next, and I'll make sure they stick to the game plan for that one.'

[Exiled in Toronto]

I found the juxtaposition of the above 2 posts highly amusing. Eggshells indeed!

I had not considered the possibility that he might be losing the dressing room

[thenodrog]

'I'm angry with the players, because I expected more,' said manager Sam Allardyce. 'When your players don't implement the game plan, or even try to, you are bound to be angry. 'We've got Stoke next, and I'll make sure they stick to the game plan for that one.'

In fairness to the team and SA the strike from Torres was a top class strike that no amount of preparation can nullify. Once we were 1-0 down the gameplan to frustrate and deny them went out of the window.

[FourLaneBlue]

He has managed 21 points from 15 games after Ince´s woeful tenure turned up 13 points from 17 games. In his time here he has turrned us from relegation certainties into a side whose form since would have seen us challenging for European places if we had been like that all season. Furthermore he has now lost just 3 games and all to sides in the top five.

Hardly surprising that you "had not considered the possibility that he might be losing the dressing room" now is it really?

Sam´s work has been nothing short of sensational since he came here. Saturday was poor but we said that after the Arsenal game as well and that will be all forgotten with a result against an in-form Stoke side.

Let me tell you, there is no excuse.

Of course there is.

Whatever side we put out, we may have lost, heavily.

In fact there you go you have provided it yourself...

If Sam believed that playing that team and relaxing some players will help us against the more winnable game at The Britannia Stadium then so be it.

Nobody here likes to see Rovers losing but sometimes it is better to cut your losses and focus on our best opportunities for points.

[Majiball]

If the players are un-happy fine, the majority of them are not performing as we know they can and to be honest they are a serious part of the reason we are in this mess. Sam's proven at this level he gets results, thats all that matters at present.

You'll notice that the midfield that helped us get a win against spurs was rather simliar to the one at liverpool. Yes I would have liked to have seen Benni out there but I'm just not convinced he's committed to our club. He's on my list of players to be shipped this summer, a pro who can't even be disciplined enough to eat well for 30K a week, disgraceful. Playing Benni up on his own would not work, playing him up with Samba would have been a disaster our midfield would not have know what had hit them.

Dunn's not fit and playing through the barrier, Aaron's dreaming of pastures new, Tugays legs have gone, Warnock's been kicking and screaming all year, Ooijers off as well, Nelsen's not performing, Andrews trys, Treacy well what do you say prime example of how dire our youth set-up is. So that leaves Samba, Robbo (slowly getting better) and Givet (I hope we can keep him) who acctually seem capable of playing at this level. I do not see how adding in Diouf or changing it round would have afectted the result.

Sam made the right choice, yes its wrong and we should try and win every game, but ours is not a situation in which we can be gung-ho, pragmatisum is needed. They stuck 4 past United as well and Madrid, yes they showed a bit more but Liverpool have come alive, somehow? Some of our kids got to see exactly how far they have to go and sam got to see if Doran could step up, we just like west ham have a ###### poor record against Liverpool, funnily enough so does Sam, one point a anfield total, Hope was our best chance on saturday.

The game plan was simple when we have the ball keep it whilst you get up round Samba, we'll then hit it up to him and look to win the second ball (liverpool really struggled against chelsea doing this), when we don't have the ball get tight and compact, keep your shape and don't get dragged out of position. So what do we do we don't get forward to support Samba, and when we don't have the ball we chased round after the ball like school kids. We need players with something between their ears however they know best.

We need serious surgery, yes we have on paper some great players but collectively its not the right blend, we have too many mis-fits and too many living on past glories, change must come.

We have no money, again next year our budget will be bugger all. We have to sell to change it all, hopefully someone takes RSC off our hands for the amount being quoted (personally I wouldn't waste 20M on a player who seems to be rather injury plagued), Imagine if no-one comes in for him????

All in all its a dire state to be in but at least we have a man at the helm who has cut it at this level and looks for new ways to get a advantage over others. Yes the football sucks and yes we do want skill and labour on the ewood turf, but you can't wave a magic wand and fix it over night, not with a poxey 3M budget in Jan. Realistically we are where we are for a reason, Sam will keep us up we will get chances if we keep putting the ball in the box hopefully someone can take them. But Change is needed, Our chairman has done a sterling job and I wouldn't change him but what about the rest of the board and staff. I wonder how many football people we really have at our club, how many innovators and people who constantly wish to better themselves and in turn our club.

Next season Sam can start to work, he has a plan, he's got some good staff around him and more will be coming. You have to remember that Sam needs to make a success of our club, he has a point to prove to a lot of people. As most have said now is all about points and getting as high as we can so we have more money to spend on sorting out our bunch of misfits and moaners that call themselves players.

Dire situations call for dire measures.

Our model is flawed we generate no money, we produce no players (youth set-up), half our players are not up to the job. the three things that we desperatly need we lack completely, thank god we have a manager now who can get RESULTS and keep us up.

Everyone moaning about the style should slap themselves in the face HARD, Our manager is the only decent thing we have at our club, our futures in our own hands and our form is good, we should stay up. Face facts we have to play this way because our squad SUCKS.

Heres my list of players who can go:

Brown

Simpson

Nelsen

Zurab

Ooijer

Warnock

Tugay - coach

Andrews

Mokoena

Morten

Treacy

Gallagher

Benni

Roberts

RSC - Just for some dollar

Derb's can stay he's playing well at olympiakos (unless they cough up real money not some poxy 1.5M he's banging them in double it nay triple it and we can talk. But the rest of them are either not bothered about our club or not good enough.

I would however start to build a team including some of our current players

GK - Robbo (one more year if not back by then, then bye)

RB - Emerton

LB - New Blood required

CB - Samba

CB - Givet

DM - Grella

MC - Someone, anyone who can play, please!

MC - see above but add some pace

RW - Diouf

LW - Newblood and some bloody pace please

ST - someone who works hard and scores goals and doesn't get injured when a cotto wool bud hits him.

Back-ups

Dunn

Derb's

Bunn - not sure though

Judge, Olsson, Derb's have earnt the chance to prove them selves for next year so would be in my 22 Doran, blackman and co must get some real games under there belts so loans for them and as many of the over 18 players as we can. Make some links with other european clubs get some loan players in from Italy and Spain to fill the gaps and spend some serious (hopefully selling most of them should generate a few quid) and buy some quality and some kids with good futures (continetal clubs have done this for years).

As far as I'm concerned we couldn't have gotten better than Sam he's done well with bugger all cash, once he's signed some players who can play and understand the game we will move forwards.

[ABBEY]

In fairness to the team and SA the strike from Torres was a top class strike that no amount of preparation can nullify. Once we were 1-0 down the gameplan to frustrate and deny them went out of the window.

1-0 ALLS NOT LOST ??? [PLAN B]

[adopted scouser]

I haven't read the trillion pages surrounding this match but can anyone explain the following ;

1 > What sort of result did we expect, playing a team challenging for the league in font of a packed Anfield on the anniversary of the Hillsbrough disaster ?

1 > What sort of result did we expect playing Chris Samba up front and leaving our only 'fit' striker sitting on his arse ?

[Exiled in Toronto]

Hardly surprising that you "had not considered the possibility that he might be losing the dressing room" now is it really?

Not until Sam was in every paper this morning accusing the players of deliberately not following the game plan, no.

I just merely assumed it was a gameplan that was unworkable with the team selection, relying on Dunn, Tugay and the Axe to race up the pitch 82 times to get on the end of knockdowns. Tugay hasn't won a knockdown since he arrived in 2001.

If Allardyce wasn't losing the dressing room before, he will be now, and many will say 'So what? Ship 'em out'. But it is interesting that in the first half of the season we had a top 7 side being criminally mismanaged by a dolloper whereas now we seemingly have a bunch of dollopers refusing to be managed by a proper manager.

The common factor to me seems to be the curse of St Mark, personified by the scouse agitator Warnock. His lack of effort on Saturday was as palpable as it was at Wigan. Allardyce I hope will keep us up, but it is undeniable that our performances are not steadily improving as his reign continues; in fact the last 2 have been the worst 2 all season.

Stoke is now the crucial match of the season; if the players play for the manager and give 110% then we will end up safe. If it's anything like the last 2 games, we are sunk.

[Tris]

The only teams that play attractive football and win are in the top 5, the rest who try (West Brom) are bottom of the league.

That's not true - the teams currently in 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th all play decent football.

This theory that the only way to stay up is to bypass the midfield and rely on long throws, corners and free kicks around the box is crap - especially when the players selected are totally unable to capitalise on the set pieces (except when the clown in Spurs goal throws us a lifeline).

Fulham proved beyond doubt last season that it's possible to play your way out of trouble in this league. They don't have a squad far removed from ours in terms of footballing ability.

[imy9]

That's not true - the teams currently in 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th all play decent football.

This theory that the only way to stay up is to bypass the midfield and rely on long throws, corners and free kicks around the box is crap - especially when the players selected are totally unable to capitalise on the set pieces (except when the clown in Spurs goal throws us a lifeline).

Fulham proved beyond doubt last season that it's possible to play your way out of trouble in this league. They don't have a squad far removed from ours in terms of footballing ability.

7th place= West Ham, who have spent how mush money in the last year alone?

8th place= Fulham, strike force of Johnson (£10.5 million) and Zamora (£4 million), again they spent over £20 million in the summer.

9th place= Spurs, do I really need to state names and prices, Bentley (£18 million) and Bent (£16 million) are bench warmers.

10th place= Wigan, whenever I have seen them play, they do not play attractive football, it is effective and the team they have bought has been similar in budget.

The point I am trying to make is that without spending a decent amount of money OR having an excellent youth set up (like West Ham), we will now struggle, there are only so many rabbits that one can pull out of a hat. The need for a central midfield of real quality has been there for all to see for THREE years, yet we bought no one decent.

[TimmyJimmy]

If the players are un-happy fine, the majority of them are not performing as we know they can and to be honest they are a serious part of the reason we are in this mess. Sam's proven at this level he gets results, thats all that matters at present.

You'll notice that the midfield that helped us get a win against spurs was rather simliar to the one at liverpool. Yes I would have liked to have seen Benni out there but I'm just not convinced he's committed to our club. He's on my list of players to be shipped this summer, a pro who can't even be disciplined enough to eat well for 30K a week, disgraceful. Playing Benni up on his own would not work, playing him up with Samba would have been a disaster our midfield would not have know what had hit them.

Dunn's not fit and playing through the barrier, Aaron's dreaming of pastures new, Tugays legs have gone, Warnock's been kicking and screaming all year, Ooijers off as well, Nelsen's not performing, Andrews trys, Treacy well what do you say prime example of how dire our youth set-up is. So that leaves Samba, Robbo (slowly getting better) and Givet (I hope we can keep him) who acctually seem capable of playing at this level. I do not see how adding in Diouf or changing it round would have afectted the result.

Sam made the right choice, yes its wrong and we should try and win every game, but ours is not a situation in which we can be gung-ho, pragmatisum is needed. They stuck 4 past United as well and Madrid, yes they showed a bit more but Liverpool have come alive, somehow? Some of our kids got to see exactly how far they have to go and sam got to see if Doran could step up, we just like west ham have a ###### poor record against Liverpool, funnily enough so does Sam, one point a anfield total, Hope was our best chance on saturday.

The game plan was simple when we have the ball keep it whilst you get up round Samba, we'll then hit it up to him and look to win the second ball (liverpool really struggled against chelsea doing this), when we don't have the ball get tight and compact, keep your shape and don't get dragged out of position. So what do we do we don't get forward to support Samba, and when we don't have the ball we chased round after the ball like school kids. We need players with something between their ears however they know best.

We need serious surgery, yes we have on paper some great players but collectively its not the right blend, we have too many mis-fits and too many living on past glories, change must come.

We have no money, again next year our budget will be bugger all. We have to sell to change it all, hopefully someone takes RSC off our hands for the amount being quoted (personally I wouldn't waste 20M on a player who seems to be rather injury plagued), Imagine if no-one comes in for him????

All in all its a dire state to be in but at least we have a man at the helm who has cut it at this level and looks for new ways to get a advantage over others. Yes the football sucks and yes we do want skill and labour on the ewood turf, but you can't wave a magic wand and fix it over night, not with a poxey 3M budget in Jan. Realistically we are where we are for a reason, Sam will keep us up we will get chances if we keep putting the ball in the box hopefully someone can take them. But Change is needed, Our chairman has done a sterling job and I wouldn't change him but what about the rest of the board and staff. I wonder how many football people we really have at our club, how many innovators and people who constantly wish to better themselves and in turn our club.

Next season Sam can start to work, he has a plan, he's got some good staff around him and more will be coming. You have to remember that Sam needs to make a success of our club, he has a point to prove to a lot of people. As most have said now is all about points and getting as high as we can so we have more money to spend on sorting out our bunch of misfits and moaners that call themselves players.

Dire situations call for dire measures.

Our model is flawed we generate no money, we produce no players (youth set-up), half our players are not up to the job. the three things that we desperatly need we lack completely, thank god we have a manager now who can get RESULTS and keep us up.

Everyone moaning about the style should slap themselves in the face HARD, Our manager is the only decent thing we have at our club, our futures in our own hands and our form is good, we should stay up. Face facts we have to play this way because our squad SUCKS.

Heres my list of players who can go:

Brown

Simpson

Nelsen

Zurab

Ooijer

Warnock

Tugay - coach

Andrews

Mokoena

Morten

Treacy

Gallagher

Benni

Roberts

RSC - Just for some dollar

Derb's can stay he's playing well at olympiakos (unless they cough up real money not some poxy 1.5M he's banging them in double it nay triple it and we can talk. But the rest of them are either not bothered about our club or not good enough.

I would however start to build a team including some of our current players

GK - Robbo (one more year if not back by then, then bye)

RB - Emerton

LB - New Blood required

CB - Samba

CB - Givet

DM - Grella

MC - Someone, anyone who can play, please!

MC - see above but add some pace

RW - Diouf

LW - Newblood and some bloody pace please

ST - someone who works hard and scores goals and doesn't get injured when a cotto wool bud hits him.

Back-ups

Dunn

Derb's

Bunn - not sure though

Judge, Olsson, Derb's have earnt the chance to prove them selves for next year so would be in my 22 Doran, blackman and co must get some real games under there belts so loans for them and as many of the over 18 players as we can. Make some links with other european clubs get some loan players in from Italy and Spain to fill the gaps and spend some serious (hopefully selling most of them should generate a few quid) and buy some quality and some kids with good futures (continetal clubs have done this for years).

As far as I'm concerned we couldn't have gotten better than Sam he's done well with bugger all cash, once he's signed some players who can play and understand the game we will move forwards.

Amen brother, Amen.